Capri Sun Kraft Foods, Black Legion’s Chief Diplomat announced - a bunch of minerbumping.com highsec grab bag level tears.
After a bunch of insults at Fozzie, he announces "that content we as an alliance pay our subs for no longer exists in Null Sec". The funny thing is that he is right. I knew it, when I noticed in disbelief that in July, Black Legion was the #4 ratter, beating well known carebears like Ruca Emperor, Spacemonkeys Alliance or B0T. Yes, Black Legion really really didn't fit into the Aegis Sov scheme.
But this pathetic collection of tears is still completely misplaced. Imagine that BL decides to spend a month mining in highsec. After they hated it, they'd announce that EVE is crap and Fozzie is an idiot and worse than Blizzard devs. That would be hilarious, but exactly the same. Mining content is present in EVE and BL could mine, but they don't, because they know it's not for them.
If they were capable of realizing that highsec belts aren't their game, then one must ask why did they try to keep Sov, which was openly and explicitly aimed to cater to "occupation-sov people". That's a politically correct term for "carebear who is capable of undocking in PvP if he must". These people exist and they are valid customers. Just like the "carebear who wants to be left alone" is one and catered to with highsec belts, L4 missions and incursions. EVE is a large sandbox and one must ask what kind of player he is and find his niche.
BL pilots should have asked themselves "am I someone who prefer to rat all day in peace and fleet up only if someone forces me to?" and upon finding that they are not, they shouldn't have tried to capture Sov. They should have done what MoA or Snuff does: live in NPC space and hunt hostiles for kills. Maybe try that "mercenary" thing they once did.
Aegis Sov is maybe not for you. It's clearly not for me, hence I'm not having pilots in any Sov holder or aspirant. Just because it's for someone else, it's not bad. So how about you find something fitting for you instead of bitching and moaning over someone else's content?
PS:
After a bunch of insults at Fozzie, he announces "that content we as an alliance pay our subs for no longer exists in Null Sec". The funny thing is that he is right. I knew it, when I noticed in disbelief that in July, Black Legion was the #4 ratter, beating well known carebears like Ruca Emperor, Spacemonkeys Alliance or B0T. Yes, Black Legion really really didn't fit into the Aegis Sov scheme.
But this pathetic collection of tears is still completely misplaced. Imagine that BL decides to spend a month mining in highsec. After they hated it, they'd announce that EVE is crap and Fozzie is an idiot and worse than Blizzard devs. That would be hilarious, but exactly the same. Mining content is present in EVE and BL could mine, but they don't, because they know it's not for them.
If they were capable of realizing that highsec belts aren't their game, then one must ask why did they try to keep Sov, which was openly and explicitly aimed to cater to "occupation-sov people". That's a politically correct term for "carebear who is capable of undocking in PvP if he must". These people exist and they are valid customers. Just like the "carebear who wants to be left alone" is one and catered to with highsec belts, L4 missions and incursions. EVE is a large sandbox and one must ask what kind of player he is and find his niche.
BL pilots should have asked themselves "am I someone who prefer to rat all day in peace and fleet up only if someone forces me to?" and upon finding that they are not, they shouldn't have tried to capture Sov. They should have done what MoA or Snuff does: live in NPC space and hunt hostiles for kills. Maybe try that "mercenary" thing they once did.
Aegis Sov is maybe not for you. It's clearly not for me, hence I'm not having pilots in any Sov holder or aspirant. Just because it's for someone else, it's not bad. So how about you find something fitting for you instead of bitching and moaning over someone else's content?
PS:
- MoA engaged a TNT fleet twice their size, resulting in a battle seeing a 6B destroyed, 97% ISK ratio win for MoA!
- MoA fleet caught a small Goon gang and exterminated it, 870M, 100%.
- SMA fleet of equal size, 1.2B destroyed, 85% ratio.
- Another SMA fleet, 1.5B, 90%.
- SMA triage supported fleet, 2.4B, 100%.
- A quick visit to the Goon capital system, 1.3B, 100%.
- Flying together with NC., 430M Imperium, 730M MoA, 4B NC. losses. Surprise, NC. is still shit.
- Hotdropped by Goon supers, 1.9B, 89%.
- Saving innocent Guristas from an 1B Tengu.
19 comments:
I love how their logo says "Deal With It" while at the same time they couldn't Deal With It.
Not really. Aegis sov is just not fun to interact with. It doesn't surprise me that people are choosing to not deal with it and move away instead. Honestly, I think this is a stealth buff to lowsec.
What are moa going to do when NPC stations get removed, which CCP nullabor was hinting at the other day?
@Anon: "people choosing to not deal with it" is objectively not true. Practically all systems are owned by someone, so someone choose to deal with it. As long as there are no exiled lands, everything is fine.
@Rob: by the time it happens, they'll own PB.
Do you really believe that? I doubt they will ever own PB, and NPC station vulnerability could be coming as early as next year with their complete removal to follow.
Hahahaha, well said Gevlon!
This would mean on the other hand, that Aegis Sov was meant for Goons. Carebears who do pvp if need be... That is, I believe your definition of the way Goons live in 0.0
I know a lot of people who have moved to 0.0, even some that joined goons, they rat and mine like crazy and make ok isk, but every once in a while, thy get bored, hop into a pvp ship and blow things up.
They say that the the "threat" of getting ganked by MoA is almost non-existant, that ofc some gankers show up on a daily basis, but it is no more dangerous than flying lv4 missions for SoE...
This just goes to show that the biggest lie CCP ever published, that "risk vs. reward" thingie does not exist any more.
Other people in 0.0 tell me that it is simply tiring and annoying to have to keep a home defense fleet in orderto chase away entosis trolls.
The mechanic is broken as it is only and only a trolling mechanism, which goons wanted to demonstrate in Provi.
Insofar I can agree that Fozzie failed.
And it is ridiculous to give entities like BL advice to live like MoA. Are you up for a wellfare program for BL? Pay them for their pvp activity.
BTW, occupancy-based sov menas ratting and mining....
There is content to be had in the new sov system, taking a look at Mercenary Coalition working out in Period Basis over the last 2-3 weeks. 30 billion of sub capitals destroyed by both sides, (not including infrastructure.) with fleet sizes around 20-40 mark.
The days of 2-3 FC large alliances are numbered, its not viable anymore. I suspect we'll see the larger, weak cultured alliances fragment into smaller entities that no-one has heard of and groups like MOA potentially getting stronger provided they keep a diverse FC base.
Gevlon, MoA has stated numerous times that they are not interested in holding soc or moving outside of NPC null. If you expect them to hold PB, especially when their new citadels will be destroyed, you might want to reconsider where you spend your money.
Speaking of which, I do not understand why you don't just drop them if favour of full support for the OOS, but whatever.
I supported OOS in July, but their performance was crap.
"Owning" Sov doesn't necessarily mean they have the TCU, it means that they decide what happens there. Sure, Goons can come down in force, but after they left, everything goes back to normal.
Surely that would mean they aren't deciding what happens there if people can just walk in and trash their stuff?
Also they'd need to hold the space for 100 days for it to really be useful.
Aegis SoV = End of the "PVP Dream"
The cast of warriors that hold space for years is now crying, that they are as much important as industrialists and PVE-ers. That reminds me all these mens which calls feminists "evil" and "emancipation" a "blantant attack on interest of man", lol.
The 1 bill Tengu kill was really funny. Interceptor tackled him and as soon as he saw two more reds enter system he ejected from ship and rats finished him off! I was the third MOA pilot in system and I couldn't lock the Tengu fast enough to get on the killmail!
BTW Gev I've also earned 5 Billion so far running a 'Pure Blind rental' scam on my alt lol lol. Just named my alt's corp 'Imperium Section 8' and suckers keep throwing isk and assets at me.
Claiming that Goons will own PB because they can walk in and trash is like claiming that MoA and OOS has supercapital superiority in Deklein, just because they could trash a titan and a supercarrier. Or Goons owning Providence now just because they could make some mess.
You do know that impersonating other characters, corps, alliances and organisations is against CCP rules, right? You can read about it at Article 8 of the ToS.
I would suggest talking to a GM about it, as a sign of good will, before someone reports you. Having to give back the ISK is better than getting banned.
I guess that depends on the level of impersonation... having a random corp named Section 8 is not an offense, having one that actively mimics an established corp by, for example, changing Ls to 1s in the name and having the same logo and description, is indeed bannable.
so. they dropped 2 supers and 3 carriers for a cormorant fleet.
what. why.
Gevlon your not understanding this. At the moment MOA is as effective as they are because they have an unsinkable aircraft carrier, as in an invulnerable station in NPC null. If stations are destructible I can guarantee you the Imperium will drop the weight of its forces on whatever destructible asset MOA decides to call home. They instantly lose the capacity to be based near the Imperium with no risk. Sure they can base in lowsec and roam from there but any destructible structure that they try to base from will have a super fleet dropped on it.
As an Imperium grunt I almost feel bad for MOA. Almost :)
The games not going to last long enough for them to bring destructible npc stations in.
What people who are saying "the imperium are going to crush any destructible" are not getting is that as long as there is any kind of border, it can be attacked. And i seriously doubt CCP is going to turn nullsec into essentially mapped out WH space
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