Greedy Goblin

Monday, January 11, 2016

The kills of 2015: Mordus Angels

This post is part of the "Killboards without inflation" series.

I continue the 2015 analysis, using the usual de-inflation method: 1% damage = 1% kill value, not 100% as on the killboard. The data is available for everyone to check. Please read at least the bolded text, as there are many-many misconceptions about MoA that needs to be disproved with data.

Below you can see the corps of the alliance with more than 100B of its activity:
Rank Corp B Damage done B Damage taken ISK ratio
1 Dissident Aggressors 546 501 52
2 MASS A DEATH 568 252 69
3 Yuhu al Medio - Overlodea Primo 505 235 68
4 PiU PiU oLoLo I am driver UFO 186 167 53
5 Mosquito Squadron 262 68 79
6 20th Legion 142 78 65
7 Delta vane Corp. 128 76 63
8 Raging Angels 144 52 73
9 Zeura Brotherhood 123 52 70
10 Under Heavy Fire 97 48 67
11 Los Primitivos 89 54 62
12 Guardians of Toutatis 89 40 69
13 Sods 71 38 65
- Sum of small ones 691 350 66
- Total 3642 2012 64

First you can see that the activity of MoA is at the level of NC. and 1/3 of PL or Goons, far more than "irrelevant NPC trash" the Emporium propaganada claims. Also - despite the high ISK ratio - this means MoA lost 2T ISK which must be surprising to those who claim "MoA is flying Cormorants and just steals Gevlon's donations". The truth is that I can't even cover 1/4 of their losses. Sure, much of these losses are not reinbursable, but much are. Before you'd ask, the low ISK ratio of Dissident Agreessors come from losing a Revenant and a titan while most pilots upkept high ISK ratio.

Below you can see what alliances contributed more than 100B to the killboard of the analyzed one.
Rank Alliance B Damage done B Damage taken ISK ratio
1 Goonswarm Federation 1269 502 72
2 SpaceMonkey's Alliance 681 237 74
3 Tactical Narcotics Team 230 129 64
4 Circle-Of-Two 112 52 69
5 Fidelas Constans 118 37 76
6 Snuffed Out 2 118 2
7 The Bastion 77 33 70
- Sum of small ones 1153 905 56
- Total 3642 2012 64

Never since Goons vs BoB we seen such focus. While current Goons, PL, NC. and the rest of EVE are ganking around, MoA is fighting with a few enemies. 1/3 of their killboard activity comes from Goons, other 1/3 from the rest of Emporium. Against these enemies they upkeep very high ISK ratio.

The inflation factor of this alliance is 160%. Below you can see which alliances helped it the most by shooting the same target. Please note that damage is capped by own damage, so if the analyzed alliance did 1B damage, X did 2B, Y did 8B, then X get 0.2B help, Y get 0.8B, as their help provided 1B de-inflated damage.
Rank Alliance B Damage helped
1 Out of Sight. 35
- Sum of small ones 283
- Total 318

Below you can see the monthly activity distribution chart. "Month" is here 1/12 year and not exact calendar month. Also, sorry for the ASCII graph, but creating so many proper image charts would be exreme work for all the alliances. Colors refer to ISK ratios, pure red means below 20%.
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And this is the hourly activity distribution chart:
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Below you can see the 1B+ de-inflated contribution kills of the alliance: 4B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 3B, 3B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 3B, 2B, 1B, 3B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 3B, 3B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 3B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 3B, 2B, 1B, 3B, 1B, 7B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 5B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 3B, 3B, 2B, 3B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 7B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 9B, 3B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 3B, 1B, 1B, 7B, 3B, 1B, 6B, 3B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 3B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 4B, 2B, 5B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 3B, 1B, 1B, 3B, 3B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 4B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 3B, 3B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 3B, 2B, 3B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 8B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 4B, 2B, 11B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 4B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 5B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 9B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 3B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 5B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 5B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 3B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 3B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 3B, 3B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 3B, 4B, 3B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 10B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 3B, 3B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 7B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 3B, 3B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 4B, 3B, 2B, 2B, 3B, 1B, 2B, 3B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 3B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 3B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 3B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 9B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 1B,

Below you can see the 1B+ losses of the alliance: 1B, 1B, 1B, 3B, 105B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 3B, 3B, 1B, 1B, 3B, 1B, 3B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 3B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 4B, 111B, 1B, 1B, 4B, 1B, 1B, 3B, 3B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 4B, 2B, 4B, 3B, 6B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 3B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 4B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 3B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 2B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B,

This is the space distribution of the alliance, sorted by activity (losses+damage), showing the same focus: they fight where their enemies are. It's surprising that they can maintain positive ISK ratio even in their farming land, Pure Blind:
Rank Space B Damage done B Damage taken ISK ratio
1 Pure Blind 1324 875 60
2 Deklein 838 282 75
3 Fade 533 163 77
4 Tribute 187 74 72
5 Low_Placid 54 152 26
- Other Highsec 53 86 38
- Other Lowsec 201 159 56
- Other Nullsec 430 197 69
- Other WH space 21 24 47
- Total 3642 2012 64

This is the ship value distribution of the alliance. The total population has equal damage done and taken in all 6 groups. Please note that "Ships killed" is also de-inflated, if the alliance did 1% damage to a ship, they get 0.01 kill:
Ship value groups Ships killed B Damage done Ships lost B Damage taken
0-65M 45279 623 29847 540
66-200M 6612 715 4641 489
201-378M 2794 752 1242 323
379-1023M 1328 750 433 247
1024-2918M 353 595 95 151
2919M+ 40 208 14 261
Total 56406 3642 36272 2012

This is the number of killers on reports for alliance. The total population has equal damage done and taken in all 6 groups. Please note that "Ships killed" is also de-inflated, if the alliance did 1% damage to a ship, they get 0.01 kill. As you can see, their most active bracket was solo. The style that is "dead long ago". Sure, for noobs it is, but not for MoA!
Killer number groups Ships killed B Damage done Ships lost B Damage taken
Solo 29134 981 17977 635
2-3 10013 566 6501 307
4-6 7187 549 4850 304
7-11 4954 491 3252 228
12-28 4651 842 2552 231
29+ 468 213 1140 307
Total 56406 3642 36272 2012

This is the distribution of damage betwee pilot groups:
B damage/pilot Number of pilots Total B damage Total B loss ISK ratio
Above 10B 100 2114 (58 %) 687 (34 %) 75
1-10B 399 1345 (37 %) 858 (43 %) 61
0.1-1B 429 170 (5 %) 182 (9 %) 48
Below 0.1B 748 11 (0 %) 283 (14 %) 4

Below you can see the most active pilots of the alliance. Please note that only the in-alliance performance is listed. Also, if the pilot switched corps within the alliance, Joe (Corp A) is considered different from Joe (Corp B)
Rank Pilot B Damage done B Damage taken ISK ratio
1 Calasan (Dissident Aggressors) 0 114 0
2 Ilsea (Dissident Aggressors) 4 105 4
3 Erebus SilentKill (Dissident Aggressors) 79 29 73
4 h4x0r84 (Mosquito Squadron) 82 11 89
5 El comepiedras Jastaspista (Yuhu al Medio - Overlodea Primo) 67 24 73
6 Earendix (Yuhu al Medio - Overlodea Primo) 63 24 73
7 Seven Frost (Yuhu al Medio - Overlodea Primo) 62 16 80
8 fihs shark (Yuhu al Medio - Overlodea Primo) 51 20 72
9 Nik IV (Guardians of Toutatis) 50 18 74
10 Kauker (PiU PiU oLoLo I am driver UFO) 40 25 61
11 PiXEL UA (Dissident Aggressors) 17 33 34
12 Neok1337 (MASS A DEATH) 38 13 74
13 Anya Ivanova (Yuhu al Medio - Overlodea Primo) 40 9 82
14 Selena Nolen (PiU PiU oLoLo I am driver UFO) 35 8 80
15 Sir Rexor (Delta vane Corp.) 35 7 84
16 Barknor (MASS A DEATH) 28 13 68
17 Tocan Netrow (PiU PiU oLoLo I am driver UFO) 20 17 53
18 Rictus Hep (Khanid Navy inc) 33 4 89
19 Veronica Nalelmir (Yuhu al Medio - Overlodea Primo) 25 11 70
20 Samael Curtis (MASS A DEATH) 27 8 76
21 Gen Eve (Dissident Aggressors) 31 4 88
22 Ironlegioneri (Yuhu al Medio - Overlodea Primo) 17 18 48
23 Monster Dude (Raging Angels) 25 9 73
24 MASSADEATH (MASS A DEATH) 26 7 78
25 Furiae Kaisang (Yuhu al Medio - Overlodea Primo) 25 8 75
26 xBRANEx (MASS A DEATH) 19 14 57
27 Zieg Olexia (MASS A DEATH) 23 7 78
28 So Laki (PiU PiU oLoLo I am driver UFO) 13 16 45
29 Fragwit (Tellurian Works) 27 2 94
30 Menov92 (Sods) 24 4 86
31 Castiel Visage (MASS A DEATH) 21 6 77
32 DuCkie101 (Dissident Aggressors) 20 8 72
33 Fallen Berkser (MASS A DEATH) 15 12 55
34 Komiser Kemal (MASS A DEATH) 23 3 87
35 Akballah Kassan (Mosquito Squadron) 24 3 91
36 glenarvan (Raging Angels) 22 4 84
37 forgottenone Udan (Under Heavy Fire) 17 9 66
38 Nevil Kincade (Dissident Aggressors) 20 6 78
39 Whisperen (Delta vane Corp.) 16 9 64
40 Dave911 (Los Primitivos) 22 3 87
41 Grape Juice (Delta vane Corp.) 6 18 26
42 Rogueweapon (Dissident Aggressors) 20 5 80
43 Strife Senior (Mosquito Squadron) 23 2 93
44 rsantos (Mosquito Squadron) 20 4 82
45 Kinis Deren (StarHunt) 20 3 86
46 Eridon Hermetz (shadow and cloaking) 19 4 82
47 Asbendale Silverblade (Angels and Demons Inc.) 13 10 56
48 Jokelerie (Delta vane Corp.) 19 4 82
49 Captain Nuf (Zeura Brotherhood) 23 0 100
50 stunkerd II (20th Legion) 15 8 65
51 xXCojakXx (Los Primitivos) 19 4 83
52 Teth Razor (Chicks on Speed) 19 4 83
53 Athalwolf (Dissident Aggressors) 17 4 80
54 Paul Kevin-Short (MASS A DEATH) 16 5 76
55 Onyx Mamba (PiU PiU oLoLo I am driver UFO) 9 12 42
56 DeCypherSphere (MASS A DEATH) 14 7 64
57 Jang Ezhdeha (20th Legion) 15 5 74
58 Mark Yanning (Zeura Brotherhood) 17 4 82
59 Lupus Aurelius (Tellurian Works) 18 3 85
60 Satek Oreye (Dissident Aggressors) 9 11 46
61 Allucination (Tellurian Works) 19 1 93
62 Ransu Asanari (Powder and Ball Alchemists Union) 18 2 89
63 Kayi Brixius (MASS A DEATH) 14 6 71
64 Cognac (Sods) 12 8 58
- Sum of small ones 2022 1212 63
- Total 3642 2012 64

Below you can see the performance of the top corporations against the top enemies in format of B kills / B losses, color coded by ISK ratio of the corp against the enemy. The second line shows how big percentage of the killboard is against/from this enemy. If the activity of the corp against the enemy is less than half of the alliance average, their field is greyed out, showing that the corp didn't pull its weight against that enemy.
The rest GSF SMA TNT CO2 FCON Snuff Bastion
Alliance focus on enemy 36.4% 31.3% 16.2% 6.3% 2.9% 2.7% 2.1% 1.9%
Other corps 298 / 248 346 / 119 153 / 51 63 / 33 27 / 15 35 / 9 0 / 2 20 / 5
Dissident Aggressors 147 / 136 214 / 148 95 / 46 38 / 29 22 / 8 20 / 10 0 / 112 9 / 12
MASS A DEATH 128 / 99 225 / 80 101 / 28 62 / 26 20 / 8 19 / 6 0 / 0 12 / 5
Yuhu al Medio - Overlodea Primo 202 / 125 105 / 37 167 / 55 11 / 9 6 / 2 8 / 2 2 / 2 4 / 2
PiU PiU oLoLo I am driver UFO 86 / 101 46 / 27 17 / 15 7 / 10 11 / 7 6 / 2 0 / 0 13 / 5
Mosquito Squadron 67 / 28 110 / 20 48 / 10 17 / 4 7 / 3 11 / 2 0 / 0 2 / 1
20th Legion 37 / 42 49 / 17 25 / 8 8 / 5 8 / 2 6 / 1 0 / 0 9 / 1
Delta vane Corp. 41 / 39 39 / 19 23 / 8 14 / 5 4 / 3 4 / 1 0 / 0 2 / 0
Raging Angels 22 / 20 82 / 18 28 / 5 4 / 4 3 / 1 3 / 2 0 / 0 2 / 1
Zeura Brotherhood 99 / 44 11 / 4 5 / 1 1 / 1 2 / 0 2 / 0 0 / 1 2 / 0
Under Heavy Fire 26 / 23 42 / 11 18 / 9 4 / 2 2 / 1 4 / 1 0 / 0 1 / 0

Below you can see the performance of the top corporations in the top regions of the alliance. If the corp activity in that region is less than half of the alliance average, it's greyed out:
Pure Blin Deklein Fade Tribute Other Hig Other Low Other Nul Other WH
Alliance focus on region 38.9% 19.8% 12.3% 4.6% 2.5% 10.0% 11.1% 0.8%
Other corps 389 / 260 229 / 49 100 / 27 39 / 19 2 / 34 45 / 38 131 / 47 6 / 10
Dissident Aggressors 236 / 160 139 / 132 62 / 21 35 / 10 1 / 13 6 / 129 65 / 33 3 / 3
MASS A DEATH 264 / 147 145 / 31 62 / 20 34 / 15 0 / 5 4 / 6 57 / 22 3 / 6
Yuhu al Medio - Overlodea Primo 70 / 53 57 / 16 204 / 64 14 / 5 1 / 5 136 / 77 21 / 15 1 / 0
PiU PiU oLoLo I am driver UFO 40 / 63 38 / 13 12 / 9 25 / 11 1 / 14 6 / 10 63 / 46 1 / 2
Mosquito Squadron 98 / 31 75 / 10 30 / 7 13 / 4 13 / 1 1 / 3 31 / 12 1 / 0
20th Legion 46 / 45 39 / 6 17 / 5 11 / 4 0 / 3 2 / 7 26 / 8 1 / 0
Delta vane Corp. 77 / 49 23 / 5 10 / 3 6 / 2 1 / 6 2 / 4 8 / 4 1 / 2
Raging Angels 55 / 28 56 / 13 17 / 3 4 / 2 0 / 1 1 / 2 11 / 4 0 / 0
Zeura Brotherhood 12 / 8 9 / 2 3 / 1 4 / 1 34 / 2 52 / 35 9 / 4 0 / 1
Under Heavy Fire 37 / 31 29 / 4 15 / 5 3 / 2 0 / 2 1 / 1 8 / 3 4 / 1

Below you can see the % damages on the kills of the corp. It shows how much they fly with themselves, with their alliance and with strangers:
Corporation Corp % Alliance % Alien %
Dissident Aggressors 52 42 7
MASS A DEATH 54 41 4
Yuhu al Medio - Overlodea Primo 90 4 6
PiU PiU oLoLo I am driver UFO 72 7 21
Mosquito Squadron 53 42 5
20th Legion 42 53 5
Delta vane Corp. 47 48 5
Raging Angels 81 10 9
Zeura Brotherhood 81 16 3
Under Heavy Fire 37 58 6

As you can see, several corps failed to integrate and flied in different lands and without their alliance mates. Yuhu al Medio - Overlodea Primo, PiU PiU oLoLo I am driver UFO and Zeura Brotherhood already left. I'm afraid Raging Angels will be the next, but I hope they can find new corps and above all, individual pilots to continue their crusade.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

"which must be surprising to those who claim "MoA is flying Cormorants and just steals Gevlon's donations"."
Not really surprising, just means they are losing a lot of them. Most of your donations still go to the leadership to line their pockets with. Below is a list of the top 10 ship types lost by MoA and the % of total losses (by number, not by isk).

Capsule 27.21%
Frigate 10.54%
Destroyer 9.63%
Interceptor 9.05%
Stealth Bomber 8.15%
Cruiser 7.40%
Combat Battlecruiser 3.49%
Rookie ship 2.84%
Assault Frigate 2.51%
Tactical Destroyer 2.47%

Manwell said...

Does your boss at work not earn more while doing less? How much isk does mittens get compared to how much he gives to the line members. Also fielding smaller ships is easier to get around while being easy to lose and reship. Or that we don't lose the bigger ships? I know from being in MOA, that all I want is a gf from innumerable odds i.e fighting a force that is more than 10x the size, better funded and still winning most engagements. Job satisfaction

Anonymous said...

Raging Angels is a Russian language corp while the alliance mainly operates in English. So it makes sense that they would be doing their own thing most of the time. Monster Dude does lead english language fleets. And they have been a great asset to our alliance.

Anonymous said...

Could you make an analysis who killed the most of Signal Cartel Alliance?

Little SNOOObie said...

Regarding Raging Angels and the other corps that left :

I do believe that the main reason for separation is the differences in their modus operandi. Mordus Angels are split in half: On hand hand you have corps like MassADeath which love using extremely cheap setups to win ISK efficiency (to the extreme of some of them having cop rules that emphasize said policies), while the other half prefer more "risky" fleets in the hope that they will both catch something other than a sole ratter and have a fighting chance in the event of a small defensive escalation.

This already splits in alliance in the middle, and lowers the amount of people you can work with. If you consider additional limitations like language and timezone barriers it is no wonder that some corporations left. It simply boils down to what you define as fun, and how accessible said fun is to you.

Remember, a sizeable number of Raging Ducks opted not to migrate to MoA, since they expected that they won't be able to work together.

All in all, I do expect that more corps will leave, until MoA ends up with their old backbone which enjoys catching ratters in interceptors / bombers and fights fleets on cormorants mainly for ISK efficiency. I can't comment on whatever or not it will be for better or worse as an Imperium fighting force, but it will be better for the alliance.

Anonymous said...

Ships are just tools, we use the best tools at hand for the environment we live in. If you can show me fielding 2b battleships with slave sets will win then we will use them. This however is not the case, we will be blobbed and lose all the 2b battleships, or whatever other blingy non fast/skirmish thing that is fielded. The ships we fly are simply a product of us being 1 jump from the CFC main force. You dont see anyone else using crazy doctrines in our area do you? Where are all the big alliances? No where near us..or down south farming brave newbies.

I am 100% for any tactic or doctrine that will win. Regardless of cost. If we lived in another area , our ship choices would totally be differnt, since we would not have to worry about 300+ man fleets wrecking us.

if you can show me a doctrine that works... we will use it. Suggest and we will plan and try them.

Massadeath

Little SNOOObie said...

Hey Massadeath,

I totally agree. I was just commenting on why some people that have joined the alliance might have to leave. It's all about what you define as fun. Some people enjoy risking expensive ships while tying to get a higher outcome. Others strip to the basics and try to exploit any tiny advantage they get in ISK efficiency.

I just agree with Gevlon that Raging Ducks will eventually leave the alliance and move somewhere else. As I type this Glenarvan is in Deklein in a cyno Flycathcer. Now, I am not on your coms, but I am sure he has Stratios and recons ready to drop. This is something that is totally different than what you guys do in MassADeath. It isn't that you can't do it, it's that you are not willing to do it because your idea of fun is different.



Little SNOOObie said...

Obviously its a Falcon, not a Flycatcher. Derp.

Anonymous said...

@Massadeath
The problem with your logic is that right now you are using small cheap ships and not winning. You are unable to do any serious damage and have to pick off mainly ratters and stragglers because you're unwilling to commit a serious force to getting rid of the goons. You can't win against a group like goons by ignoring strategic fights and certainly not while they have so much isk that individual goons are able to do competitions to give away 2T isk.

Gevlon said...

MoA is killing more Goons than anyone else by large. So even if they are not winning yet, they are the best candidates.

The 2T offer is an obvious scam.

Anonymous said...

o/ Goblin,

is this rp group worth mentioning in your km overview ?

http://chao3.net/index.html