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Tuesday, July 19, 2016

BDO: Calpheon timber crates guide

I wrote about my misfortune with crates, now I worked with them enough to write a proper guide.

Calpheon timber crate is a special trade item created by workers in a building with wood workbench. It needs 5 fir, 5 cedar and 5 birch plywoods with 1 black stone powder. It has no expiry and can be sold to any trade vendor. Due to distance bonus, it worth making it at one end of the map: Trent (one workbench in town, another in the next node) and sell at the other end: Ancado Inner Harbor. If you sell it for over 120%, you get over 140K for a crate:

First thing first: having high contribution points (level alts) is mandatory for this due to the long connection (you can also see some of my work nodes). If you don't want to have high CP, just forget crates.:

Second thing, transportation: you can't offline travel with trade packs. You can't reach Ancado on road with an AFK cart. However you can use the warehouse-transport feature! Send your crates from Trent to Epheria port (790 silver each) and from Epheria to Ancado (4100). Crates don't stack while transportation and you can't transport more than 100. A transport takes 2 hours but only a few clicks to send. So every time you come back from AFK, check the 3 locations and receive what arrived and send what's need to be sent. You can theoretically save 8 CP by skipping Epheria and transport on the Trent - Calpheon - Tarif - Altinova - Ancado Inner Harbor route but that occupies the transport system for 8 hours with 100 crates. And you'll make more. Just use Epheria! In Ancado there should be a permanent alt with a cart (just travel by ship and buy the cart in Valencia). The income should be converted to gold bars and sent to Altinova via warehouse transport.

Third thing, materials: while your worker empire can easily reach 3 birch, 3 fir and 2 cedar nodes (third is a bit expensive), that won't provide you enough materials, just about 30-40 crates worth a day. Having all those nodes and an alt locked just for 30-40 crates is a dumb waste. So you need to buy more wood. Fir and cedar sells around 600, Birch around 300. 8 needed for a plywood and 5 plywoods needed from each. That's 60K material cost. You should check the market often for new listings and buy lots of timber.

Fourth thing, processing: you must process all the timber into plywood. That's lot of processing since 1 plywood takes 20 seconds to make (4 processes of timber make 4*2.5 = 10 planks, 1 process makes 2.5 plywood, 5*10/2.5 = 20). So the plywoods of one crate needs 300 seconds aka 5 minutes of processing. For 200 crates a day, that's 1000 minutes or 17 hours a day processing. Follow the processing guide and if you don't want to process at least 10 hours a day (AFK of course), forget the crates. You can save lot of time by buying planks or plywoods directly when they are cheap enough. Important thing: don't forget the price of processing. Just because you process the timber, it's not free. You could process iron into steel or unsellable timber to plywoods to vendor. For example you can only vendor Ash timber for 70 each (560 for 8), but if you make plywood, you can sell for 2240. That's 1680 silver profit on a plywood that you will not make if you make crates. So for the 15 plywoods per crate you can estimate 25K processing cost. You don't have to process in Trent, you can process anywhere and use an alt to offline travel to Trent with the plywoods.

The material, processing and transport costs are around 90K. So your income is 40-50K per crate. What you have to do for it? Lock down your CP and log to the Ancado alt. He must be online for 10 minutes before using the trader NPC. Traders rarely offer 130% max price. If you or someone else sold crates recently, it's lower. Every % will cost you around 1K. I use to sell over 115%. If it's lower, I switch channels, which is more waiting and no guarantee that there will be better price. Even if you find 130%, after selling 60 crates, it will be below 115, forcing a jump and wait. While jump and wait is AFK, it's not long-time AFK, so you must be around the computer. Also, while your alt is waiting, your main is not processing, and you could make 70K in 10 minutes processing. Sure, you can process with your Ancado alt, but that means sending the materials and sending the products back and leveling processing on that alt. As a middle ground I send her Silver Azalea and she makes concentrated herbal juice and when enough are made, offline travel to Valencia and sell it. Before selling the crates, you must do a successful bargain minigame which is stupid, takes time and energy points!

So think about all these before jumping on crates! But if you do it right, that's another 10M a day with little clicking.

14 comments:

Destabilizator said...

I'm making other crates, but few notes:
- I've used all lodging available in Trent (5 guys) and set the workbenches up in Calpheon (those you can get for 2 CP/workbench), it doesn't add much time (especially with artisans with +3 packing skill - make 4 crates in one go, it's godly)
- I'm selling in Valencia due to Desert Trade Bonus
- I'm delivering to Valencia myself (auto-path to Sand Grain Bazaar), there's no limit how much you can overload your mount and it doesn't slow down anymore - it's still as fast as riding without Shift and you don't need to connect Epheria
- Overloaded horse doesn't slow down in the desert!

NightL said...

Is there a reason why you go to Ancado instead of Valencia?

Gevlon said...

Longer distance, less travel.

Anonymous said...

total CP for this setup would be nice. I traced you connections, so far as I see it is is about 103 CP (not including calpheon lodging and mistakes)

http://i.imgur.com/0AgmTR4.jpg
the 3rd cedar timber node isn't more expensive as the 3rd birch timber node. you connect Longleaf sentry outpost anyway, so it is 4 CP like the birch above Northern Wheat Plantation.

Map is screenshoted from http://www.somethinglovely.net/bdo/#!/ and glued together with GIMP. I like to draw or add text to layer/layer-groups so I can see my stuff and projects at a glance. Sure the map websites are nice for searching nodes but they lag and blow up my browser session sometimes, so in a way this helps to keep my browser sessions healthier.

Destabilizator said...

Maybe something to consider, as you cannot supply all the raw mats yourself and have to buy anyway, what if you ditched all the nodes and bought it all, investing CP into more lucrative nodes?

Gevlon said...

@Anon: my route isn't the optimal on its own, it's optimal considering the nodes I use anyway. If I stopped doing timber crates, I could free up like 25 CP, the rest of the nodes would stay for themselves.

The third birch cost 2 CP, because I already had the previous nodes for themselves (wheat plantation for wheat, Beriarto farm for the excavation. Longleaf on the other hand connects to nothing.

@Destabilizator: these nodes are very lucrative on their own. So if I'd buy all my timber, I'd still have them and sell the timber. Which makes little sense, so I just use them myself.

Anonymous said...

On overloading horses from Destabilizator.

With a bit of draging stacks around I can overload myself way over 400%. This need some more testing, I had forgotten to open some bheg bundles over the last weeks and as derp as I was I opened them all at calpheon bank. So I stumbled over this while looking for a way to do this fast, and moved the whole stack to olvia fullspeed, for roundtripping westguard camp turnins.

Benefit of _you_ overloaded is normal horse speed. with the right horse trent-ancando is a trip of estimated 15min judging from videos like T7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWrn0b9tnQQ and T8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tDZL-5xPi4
(of course all the right skills T7:drift,instant-accel,sprint T8:T7 skills + S:instant-accel watch his comparison video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbLspOvL4vE )

Destabilizator said...

All great, but when you overload YOUR ASS with crates, you cannot sit on any mount, so overloading horse is your only option.

Ofc for transporting material, you can overload yourself (it's unlimited, but eventually you cannot move without mount)... but if you have to transport so much, maybe you should move your base.

Anonymous said...

What amount of cp is adaquate to start this?

Anonymous said...

isnt it better if you connect sea nodes from velia -> iliya -> Ancado , does it work?

Gevlon said...

You can connect sea nodes, but land nodes also have work nodes on them

Saito said...

How would you be able to make 140k per crate? I am crafting in epheria port, and I am shipping to Ancando. I am not sure what I'm doing wrong, but I get like 90k or so when I do this.

Gevlon said...

@Saito: check price %. Trader NPCs buy for different prices on different channels

Hubba said...

@Gevlon i would say if you are fisher guy go through sea and if not then maybe land , i dont realy see important nodes between altinova -> ancado expect maybe basilisk