From month to month I've been checking the losses of the Emporium and almost every time Mordus Angels is the #1 killer. Since this, I've been supporting them with money, (you can too) and analyze their performance to show the community that the hyped "frenemies" of Goons will do nothing, and it's MoA who stands against the blob (oh wait). Kills and losses are de-inflated, so if a pilot got 10% damage on a 300M AFK Ishtar, he gets 30M booked.
Only damage done to and losses from the Evil Imperium are listed. The table below lists the top pilots, sorted by damage done
This is the summary of corps against the Imperium:
This is the summary against alliances of the Evil Imperium, over 5B kills:
Finally the focus on the Evil: 53% of their losses were from the Evil Imperium. Here is the toplist of non-Imperium enemies:
As always, here is the montly performance chart. I wish good luck to the new EVE bureau chief of the Goon propaganda site to spin this:
Update: I can't believe it, they do spin it! They claim that losing more is a sign of increasing strength! Too bad that I also have their total losses, so I can show you the performance of MoA compared to the total, showing that MoA is getting bigger among the enemies:
Sure, they'll keep spinning that the 2015 average was mere 6.7% and with current growth rate it will be 9.8% average in 2016 which will still not brake them. What they miss here is that MoA is already the #1 killer and with it gained a name. There are awful lot of anti-Goons out there, pacified by the various treaties of the Goons. When these players will quit their current pacified alliances and join the best anti-Goon alliance, these numbers will skyrocket.
# | Pilot Name | M to Imp | M by Imp | Ratio | Top kills | Top losses |
1 | Monster Dude | 20976 | 5093 | 80% | 8809M, 7001M, 653M, 494M, 401M, | 2373M, 1667M, 574M, 203M, 69M, |
2 | Nik IV | 11932 | 1740 | 87% | 746M, 582M, 519M, 347M, 337M, | 256M, 125M, 118M, 99M, 98M, |
3 | h4x0r84 | 9403 | 728 | 93% | 1106M, 813M, 546M, 272M, 208M, | 83M, 75M, 73M, 73M, 73M, |
4 | glenarvan | 7684 | 587 | 93% | 498M, 489M, 423M, 410M, 393M, | 585M, |
5 | Erebus SilentKill | 5898 | 2183 | 73% | 316M, 313M, 291M, 200M, 188M, | 403M, 207M, 199M, 116M, 113M, |
6 | TrotaconventoX | 5832 | 751 | 89% | 2423M, 1097M, 423M, 255M, 153M, | 127M, 120M, 109M, 109M, 37M, |
7 | Akballah Kassan | 5627 | 489 | 92% | 336M, 335M, 246M, 234M, 179M, | 73M, 70M, 67M, 39M, 37M, |
8 | JimSkyleder | 5407 | 312 | 95% | 962M, 919M, 454M, 371M, 228M, | 94M, 93M, 88M, 37M, |
9 | Komiser Kemal | 4893 | 543 | 90% | 266M, 226M, 191M, 159M, 153M, | 233M, 118M, 51M, 35M, 31M, |
10 | Leia Todako | 4880 | 504 | 91% | 518M, 257M, 256M, 179M, 144M, | 109M, 97M, 89M, 53M, 35M, |
11 | Brutus Duran | 4412 | 290 | 94% | 736M, 368M, 185M, 183M, 177M, | 73M, 54M, 47M, 27M, 20M, |
12 | Komuto | 4336 | 674 | 87% | 576M, 491M, 348M, 298M, 244M, | 85M, 83M, 82M, 80M, 77M, |
13 | DjShaman 61RUS | 4315 | 1292 | 77% | 418M, 195M, 181M, 160M, 155M, | 236M, 235M, 229M, 192M, 101M, |
14 | Quasari Mio | 4081 | 1829 | 69% | 527M, 355M, 256M, 204M, 200M, | 483M, 348M, 186M, 171M, 138M, |
15 | Darth Bladius | 3673 | 643 | 85% | 1874M, 335M, 133M, 121M, 92M, | 210M, 101M, 99M, 88M, 79M, |
16 | Selande | 3291 | 1120 | 75% | 492M, 353M, 289M, 286M, 251M, | 901M, 65M, 61M, 35M, 32M, |
17 | BOBLEFOUHAHA | 3195 | 322 | 91% | 258M, 198M, 196M, 149M, 144M, | 101M, 94M, 92M, 35M, |
18 | El comepiedras Jastaspista | 3049 | 545 | 85% | 570M, 372M, 207M, 173M, 165M, | 164M, 152M, 113M, 79M, 38M, |
19 | glenarvan org | 3018 | 362 | 89% | 1133M, 248M, 141M, 129M, 108M, | 212M, 67M, 33M, 26M, 24M, |
20 | Sir Rexor | 2904 | 170 | 94% | 632M, 129M, 114M, 102M, 98M, | 72M, 29M, 27M, 26M, 16M, |
21 | Nevil Kincade | 2764 | 1047 | 73% | 298M, 194M, 151M, 124M, 117M, | 418M, 218M, 115M, 109M, 75M, |
22 | Samael Curtis | 2624 | 843 | 76% | 842M, 307M, 191M, 141M, 97M, | 82M, 78M, 75M, 43M, 43M, |
23 | Strife Senior | 2508 | 267 | 90% | 282M, 158M, 113M, 61M, 60M, | 65M, 48M, 30M, 22M, 18M, |
24 | Ziu Debaner | 2489 | 464 | 84% | 345M, 163M, 136M, 116M, 105M, | 139M, 101M, 69M, 53M, 35M, |
25 | Kinis Deren | 2429 | 337 | 88% | 150M, 126M, 120M, 97M, 82M, | 76M, 67M, 34M, 28M, 26M, |
26 | Caer Dallben | 2225 | 283 | 89% | 378M, 99M, 97M, 94M, 92M, | 72M, 37M, 30M, 30M, 30M, |
27 | Neok1337 | 2184 | 775 | 74% | 417M, 228M, 207M, 165M, 113M, | 258M, 203M, 95M, 67M, 35M, |
28 | Ninja RU | 2084 | 438 | 83% | 431M, 431M, 125M, 123M, 91M, | 189M, 187M, 63M, |
29 | Fallen Berkser | 1987 | 517 | 79% | 267M, 243M, 231M, 134M, 112M, | 228M, 95M, 69M, 45M, 42M, |
30 | Seven Frost | 1869 | 173 | 92% | 324M, 322M, 313M, 186M, 148M, | 88M, 85M, |
31 | demigod0000001 | 1841 | 177 | 91% | 432M, 279M, 170M, 102M, 98M, | 35M, 28M, 25M, 24M, 24M, |
32 | Sweep 1400 | 1813 | 0 | 100% | 466M, 172M, 154M, 115M, 111M, | |
33 | Maky Nork | 1793 | 363 | 83% | 542M, 276M, 138M, 130M, 93M, | 106M, 73M, 56M, 30M, 26M, |
34 | DuchessFleur1855 | 1779 | 1708 | 51% | 387M, 120M, 106M, 92M, 85M, | 226M, 216M, 143M, 118M, 99M, |
35 | Beya | 1773 | 439 | 80% | 220M, 153M, 140M, 98M, 84M, | 159M, 103M, 77M, 73M, 27M, |
36 | Allucination | 1734 | 118 | 94% | 473M, 290M, 217M, 174M, 166M, | 81M, 25M, 12M, |
37 | Queen Shyeed | 1723 | 886 | 66% | 629M, 361M, 155M, 104M, 84M, | 385M, 118M, 40M, 38M, 35M, |
38 | Fragwit | 1703 | 133 | 93% | 189M, 185M, 112M, 94M, 81M, | 101M, 19M, 13M, |
39 | Barknor | 1687 | 549 | 75% | 263M, 68M, 57M, 54M, 51M, | 99M, 74M, 48M, 43M, 33M, |
40 | Lupus Aurelius | 1683 | 208 | 89% | 386M, 114M, 113M, 93M, 91M, | 92M, 71M, 29M, 16M, |
41 | weat bix | 1628 | 351 | 82% | 168M, 99M, 78M, 77M, 66M, | 194M, 102M, 40M, 15M, |
42 | TescoBunny Wunny | 1612 | 1153 | 58% | 614M, 126M, 104M, 97M, 86M, | 256M, 120M, 79M, 68M, 63M, |
43 | Nasagasa Bump | 1563 | 468 | 77% | 140M, 134M, 95M, 80M, 64M, | 104M, 100M, 73M, 62M, 58M, |
44 | Satek Oreye | 1561 | 134 | 92% | 319M, 288M, 261M, 180M, 100M, | 29M, 28M, 28M, 25M, 13M, |
45 | Brenon Okanata | 1540 | 213 | 88% | 461M, 179M, 129M, 122M, 106M, | 77M, 60M, 46M, 29M, |
46 | Azure Wyvern | 1458 | 243 | 86% | 126M, 101M, 100M, 85M, 74M, | 97M, 73M, 31M, 15M, 14M, |
47 | Baaad Seed | 1448 | 421 | 77% | 145M, 116M, 93M, 86M, 62M, | 101M, 65M, 57M, 36M, 18M, |
48 | Vercinget0rix | 1432 | 211 | 87% | 256M, 236M, 226M, 172M, 134M, | 97M, 53M, 34M, 28M, |
49 | ZeroCool GT | 1430 | 31 | 98% | 286M, 272M, 230M, 131M, 126M, | 14M, |
50 | Sonja SherezadeX | 1393 | 467 | 75% | 548M, 98M, 86M, 83M, 79M, | 137M, 35M, 32M, 31M, 31M, |
51 | Dahc Eilering | 1359 | 20 | 99% | 406M, 162M, 132M, 97M, 88M, | 12M, |
52 | Gwen Reaper | 1311 | 66 | 95% | 551M, 165M, 96M, 96M, 85M, | 66M, |
53 | EnigmaX XamginE | 1281 | 844 | 60% | 87M, 82M, 81M, 79M, 74M, | 121M, 120M, 117M, 95M, 88M, |
54 | brainwhacker | 1281 | 472 | 73% | 147M, 82M, 81M, 59M, 51M, | 97M, 56M, 56M, 55M, 54M, |
55 | Sath Om | 1211 | 75 | 94% | 270M, 229M, 92M, 80M, 68M, | 32M, 31M, 12M, |
56 | tropic154 | 1207 | 57 | 95% | 478M, 170M, 116M, 69M, 44M, | 57M, |
57 | Destiny Reunited | 1198 | 442 | 73% | 186M, 102M, 87M, 81M, 81M, | 204M, 44M, 40M, 39M, 39M, |
58 | Cognac | 1197 | 175 | 87% | 256M, 146M, 125M, 77M, 45M, | 90M, 74M, 12M, |
59 | Wind Hoek | 1177 | 815 | 59% | 164M, 103M, 85M, 69M, 51M, | 112M, 80M, 70M, 68M, 49M, |
60 | kasbah | 1150 | 0 | 100% | 330M, 160M, 122M, 120M, 58M, | |
61 | Whisperen | 1149 | 385 | 75% | 79M, 76M, 72M, 67M, 59M, | 111M, 54M, 40M, 40M, 36M, |
62 | Jon Eriker | 1113 | 163 | 87% | 193M, 109M, 94M, 67M, 54M, | 83M, 52M, 27M, |
63 | horduraben brown | 1105 | 86 | 93% | 568M, 241M, 76M, 35M, 31M, | 74M, 12M, |
64 | Ann McBonny | 1060 | 436 | 71% | 177M, 166M, 120M, 72M, 69M, | 269M, 106M, 34M, 27M, |
65 | Ghalantor | 1029 | 374 | 73% | 270M, 80M, 79M, 64M, 63M, | 46M, 45M, 44M, 41M, 36M, |
66 | VTyx Soul | 1017 | 262 | 80% | 204M, 166M, 46M, 45M, 33M, | 96M, 75M, 38M, 28M, 25M, |
67 | Necronian | 1014 | 0 | 100% | 624M, 134M, 116M, 40M, 35M, | |
68 | bacquette Amelana | 1013 | 190 | 84% | 324M, 137M, 86M, 71M, 69M, | 80M, 75M, 27M, |
69 | L0ne Wulf | 985 | 79 | 93% | 136M, 78M, 72M, 68M, 56M, | 18M, 16M, 16M, 15M, 14M, |
70 | inslaved fighter | 976 | 33 | 97% | 88M, 64M, 44M, 43M, 39M, | 33M, |
71 | Sergant dp | 941 | 237 | 80% | 125M, 106M, 95M, 51M, 40M, | 100M, 35M, 20M, 17M, 15M, |
72 | Kalstir | 924 | 161 | 85% | 109M, 106M, 102M, 88M, 84M, | 39M, 35M, 33M, 27M, 26M, |
73 | Herring | 890 | 173 | 84% | 203M, 183M, 175M, 104M, 38M, | 87M, 53M, 33M, |
74 | Picard X | 888 | 898 | 50% | 89M, 61M, 43M, 43M, 40M, | 264M, 163M, 113M, 112M, 58M, |
75 | ZliDust | 876 | 220 | 80% | 253M, 80M, 64M, 43M, 39M, | 81M, 76M, 63M, |
76 | Stapaina | 852 | 700 | 55% | 122M, 114M, 56M, 49M, 47M, | 279M, 138M, 121M, 101M, 43M, |
77 | Tygg Essex | 848 | 211 | 80% | 92M, 81M, 78M, 60M, 60M, | 71M, 69M, 25M, 13M, 12M, |
78 | Kiim scala | 833 | 426 | 66% | 85M, 76M, 74M, 65M, 62M, | 99M, 99M, 72M, 72M, 37M, |
79 | DuCkie101 | 809 | 215 | 79% | 164M, 146M, 126M, 98M, 63M, | 211M, |
80 | Fehdman Kassad | 800 | 177 | 82% | 380M, 113M, 44M, 37M, 18M, | 77M, 26M, 21M, 20M, 19M, |
81 | Ashstyx's alt | 792 | 334 | 70% | 133M, 55M, 53M, 47M, 36M, | 59M, 58M, 36M, 34M, 23M, |
82 | SegaPhoenix | 720 | 9 | 99% | 51M, 44M, 40M, 37M, 36M, | |
83 | King Aires | 717 | 156 | 82% | 121M, 86M, 73M, 44M, 36M, | 98M, 40M, 18M, |
84 | Ninjafaq | 693 | 0 | 100% | 200M, 151M, 117M, 80M, 38M, | |
85 | Lee Wai | 692 | 168 | 81% | 127M, 113M, 73M, 69M, 63M, | 74M, 36M, 32M, 26M, |
86 | Gris X | 685 | 112 | 86% | 282M, 159M, 74M, 61M, 27M, | 60M, 44M, |
87 | Seiver Gennarr | 684 | 0 | 100% | 588M, 39M, 39M, 18M, | |
88 | semoon47 | 664 | 169 | 80% | 223M, 170M, 60M, 29M, 26M, | 55M, 42M, 39M, 21M, 12M, |
89 | djNME | 647 | 72 | 90% | 155M, 98M, 70M, 44M, 35M, | 25M, 23M, 13M, 11M, |
90 | dustee | 642 | 90 | 88% | 192M, 56M, 36M, 28M, 27M, | 46M, 19M, 17M, |
91 | xBRANEx | 631 | 417 | 60% | 125M, 81M, 79M, 71M, 40M, | 353M, 32M, 17M, 15M, |
92 | Aur Aurvandil | 622 | 40 | 94% | 199M, 128M, 96M, 80M, 74M, | 40M, |
93 | MASSADEATH | 621 | 63 | 91% | 100M, 82M, 52M, 43M, 41M, | 28M, 21M, 14M, |
94 | Kayi Brixius | 596 | 225 | 73% | 353M, 56M, 31M, 27M, 26M, | 177M, 27M, 16M, |
95 | Nick Bondaeus | 571 | 74 | 89% | 144M, 115M, 58M, 53M, 39M, | 74M, |
96 | Noctem Utama | 565 | 645 | 47% | 100M, 58M, 33M, 31M, 30M, | 350M, 50M, 46M, 36M, 34M, |
97 | Euschen Munnas | 563 | 124 | 82% | 80M, 47M, 41M, 34M, 33M, | 33M, 32M, 17M, 14M, 12M, |
98 | Roland Melisef | 561 | 451 | 55% | 112M, 98M, 53M, 49M, 39M, | 222M, 86M, 57M, 57M, 29M, |
99 | Qc Abrutis | 548 | 247 | 69% | 105M, 42M, 32M, 31M, 26M, | 182M, 45M, 17M, |
100 | Roman DW | 538 | 427 | 56% | 69M, 59M, 47M, 46M, 41M, | 98M, 72M, 71M, 39M, 31M, |
101 | Everyone else | 25084 | 17116 | 59% | ||
102 | Total | 243896 | 62923 | 79% |
This is the summary of corps against the Imperium:
Rank | Corp | B Damage done | B Damage taken | ISK ratio |
1 | Raging Angels | 62 | 14 | 81 |
2 | MASS A DEATH | 29 | 9 | 76 |
3 | Dissident Aggressors | 27 | 10 | 73 |
4 | Mosquito Squadron | 28 | 5 | 85 |
5 | Guardians of Toutatis | 21 | 4 | 84 |
6 | Delta vane Corp. | 12 | 2 | 85 |
7 | UNISEX - Universitas Senioribus EXXE | 9 | 2 | 80 |
8 | Malfunctioning Misfit's | 9 | 1 | 90 |
9 | Komintern. | 8 | 2 | 81 |
10 | StarHunt | 7 | 2 | 76 |
11 | YUHU - FRENTE POPULAR DE JUDEA | 6 | 2 | 73 |
12 | Tellurian Works | 5 | 1 | 84 |
13 | 20th Legion | 4 | 2 | 60 |
14 | Sods | 4 | 1 | 78 |
- | Sum of small ones | 12 | 4 | 74 |
- | Total | 244 | 63 | 79 |
This is the summary against alliances of the Evil Imperium, over 5B kills:
Evil Alliance | B Damage done | B Damage taken | ISK ratio |
Goonswarm Federation | 134 | 34 | 80 |
SpaceMonkey's Alliance | 61 | 12 | 84 |
Fidelas Constans | 23 | 6 | 79 |
Tactical Narcotics Team | 14 | 5 | 72 |
Circle-Of-Two | 7 | 3 | 72 |
Finally the focus on the Evil: 53% of their losses were from the Evil Imperium. Here is the toplist of non-Imperium enemies:
- #Corp: Vasi Da Guerra: 14B
- Banderlogs Alliance: 4B
- Project.Mayhem.: 3B
- #Corp: GoonWaffe: 2B This is an error on the side of zkillboard, for some reason it doesn't report alliances every time, for example on this kill. However it's not a catastrophic one only a few kills are affected.
As always, here is the montly performance chart. I wish good luck to the new EVE bureau chief of the Goon propaganda site to spin this:
Update: I can't believe it, they do spin it! They claim that losing more is a sign of increasing strength! Too bad that I also have their total losses, so I can show you the performance of MoA compared to the total, showing that MoA is getting bigger among the enemies:
10 comments:
Np spin is needed. All of this and still the Imperium grows every day and shows no signs of even noticing the effect from MoA. That in itself is proof that they, and you, are irrelevant. The way you get rid of comments like this is also proof, since you wouldn't do it if deep down you didn't know it was true.
Where exactly does it grow? Not in land. Not in ratting. Not in PvP. Can you cite me a metric where they grow?
seems they grow in members
So did TEST. So did BRAVE. More pilots who do not PvP, do not rat, do not fleet up, do not even log in.
Power overwhelming.
They can't grow in land because the mechanics were changed to put pressure on such large control of the map. This is CCP impacting The Imperium, not you.
However, the power of a 10,000+ member strong alliance is still there. They can't project that power quite so far anymore, but their economic power has hardly been impacted.
So no matter how many people MOA shoot, there will still be more there waiting. They have hundreds of *trilions* of isk. They have individual *trillionares* within their group (many, in fact). As a commercially minded person you must realise with that kind of cash you can do just about anything. You are attempting to fight a financial war that your own statistics prove you are not winning (lots of killing, zero reduction in activity.. A *reduction* in MOA kills may be a sign that you're having an impact but an increase? no).
That kind of cash could indeed do anything. But it does nothing. Which can be explained two ways:
- it doesn't exist
- it is doing something invisible (RMT)
either way, I can just consider it not existing
"Where exactly does it grow? Not in land. Not in ratting. Not in PvP. Can you cite me a metric where they grow?"
- They need no more land, since the new sov mechanics use smaller amounts of land.
- According to zkb goons got more kills in November.
- Ratting you are only looking at their sov regions, and you aren't even considering whether their regions are reduced by reduced NPC space activity
- Mining and industry you make no attempt to quantify
The facts are that they are still around and they are able to throw more away at ridiculous capers like burn and funny little wars than ever before. You'll always cherry pick your data so that you can say that you are winning, but how does that actually help you if they aren't going anywhere? All you doing is proving that no matter how much damage is done to them, goons aren't going anywhere.
"That kind of cash could indeed do anything. But it does nothing. Which can be explained two ways:
- it doesn't exist
- it is doing something invisible (RMT)"
3. It's doing something you're not measuring - such as generating more isk, like market trading
Trying to kill them through attrition is like trying to empty out an ocean with a bucket. You need a new plan if you really want to see the end of them.
with so many trillionaires in its midst surely the Emporium Mittani(tm) would make a great target for scammers.
get in, get loved, get handouts, get responsibility, get paid, go 'fuck goons', get out.
Money alone cannot win wars. A fight against an organized enemy won't be won by attrition is a universe where profit potential is limited only by hours in a day. You must be able to disrupt their ability to make money, you must find ways to destabilize thier infrastructure and organization, you'd have to infiltrate or render useless their communication systems, organize mass boycotts of any material shipped to or from imperium space including known alts, finally you'd have to organize a mass burn or mobile siphon campaign. All of this would have to be sustained over the course of six months while combining it with a systemic campaign by multiple coalitions to take goon space system by system. There is no entity in eve with the desire or organization to take on such a legendary task. A guerilla campaign such as this can only perform death by 1000 cuts if the losses can eclipse the total income of imperium. Conversely you could cause internal strife by hyper focusing on one member of imperium at a time and making goon leadership choose between footing the bill for thier losses of cutting them loose. 3t in losses for imperium is nothing. 3t in losses for one single imperium alliance is another matter entirely.
Except you are rather immune to scammers if you have the knowhow to accumulate that kind of wealth.
I mean look at Gevlon - is he an easy scammer target? No. He's switched on to it. He knows enough to work the system to accumulate wealth and he knows that there are sharks in the water and how to avoid them.
People with less wealth are far easier marks...
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