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I don't like non-English moron pics but this one is excellent, and also fit the rules above (by Jonas):
Greedy Goblin
Tuesday, September 7, 2010
The PuG rules
The rules are moved to this page.
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I don't like non-English moron pics but this one is excellent, and also fit the rules above (by Jonas):
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I don't like non-English moron pics but this one is excellent, and also fit the rules above (by Jonas):
Monday, September 6, 2010
You get what you pay for
Last time we lacked healers for 25-man. I came up with a "wonderful" idea to fix it: I offered booster position (therefore 100G/boss) to every able healer. The plan was that some ret palas and cat druids (we have lot of melee) will get healer spec, gear it up for the extra gold.
Of course, like with every government subsidy, it went wrong: next raid 10! healers were present. Simply every living healer logged in. On the other hand, the DPS was in short supply, since with the extra amount of boosters decrease their pot. Another great example that you cannot control the market from above. Every subsidy attempts end up in feeding freeloaders, this time healers whose services were not needed.
Another important result: people end up with such subsidy and welfare-ideas when they run out of real solutions. I did not know how to get enough healers to ICC25, so I came up with something stupid. The lack of DPS shown that others known it's stupid. Unfortunately none of them were brave enough to simply /w me "it's a very bad idea, you'll just get what you pay for: healers. However what you want is a full, balanced raid".
I will never pay for spots again, and let the market sort it out. People with the ability to do the more rare roles have easier way to get into raids. Like we went to 10HM and 13 people were present, 2 tanks, 3 healers, 8 DPS. All healers and tanks got in, and 3/8 of the DPS did not. Simple supply and demand.
The fundamental problem for subsidizing is that you must define a criteria as condition for payment. People will find a way to reach that criteria without being actually useful or more accurately useful enough to outdo the damage you do by taxation to support your subsidy.
If things don't go well, don't make them worse by taxing the people and give their hard earned money (what is in short supply since things don't do well), and give it to someone who is smart enough to abuse your subsidy system.
So next time (Sunday), I offered no gold to no one. Boost raid applies only to raids where the boosters can carry people over content. Since we already done the sure 6/12, the rest was progression. I offered nothing but wipes. 42! people (37 lvl80) were online, but it was pretty hard to fill the raid. We wiped several times, discussing mistakes, adjusting strategies. From "half raid dead in first yellow ooze" we reached to:
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The moron was spotted by Ticklez, one of our inviters:
Of course, like with every government subsidy, it went wrong: next raid 10! healers were present. Simply every living healer logged in. On the other hand, the DPS was in short supply, since with the extra amount of boosters decrease their pot. Another great example that you cannot control the market from above. Every subsidy attempts end up in feeding freeloaders, this time healers whose services were not needed.
Another important result: people end up with such subsidy and welfare-ideas when they run out of real solutions. I did not know how to get enough healers to ICC25, so I came up with something stupid. The lack of DPS shown that others known it's stupid. Unfortunately none of them were brave enough to simply /w me "it's a very bad idea, you'll just get what you pay for: healers. However what you want is a full, balanced raid".
I will never pay for spots again, and let the market sort it out. People with the ability to do the more rare roles have easier way to get into raids. Like we went to 10HM and 13 people were present, 2 tanks, 3 healers, 8 DPS. All healers and tanks got in, and 3/8 of the DPS did not. Simple supply and demand.
The fundamental problem for subsidizing is that you must define a criteria as condition for payment. People will find a way to reach that criteria without being actually useful or more accurately useful enough to outdo the damage you do by taxation to support your subsidy.
If things don't go well, don't make them worse by taxing the people and give their hard earned money (what is in short supply since things don't do well), and give it to someone who is smart enough to abuse your subsidy system.
So next time (Sunday), I offered no gold to no one. Boost raid applies only to raids where the boosters can carry people over content. Since we already done the sure 6/12, the rest was progression. I offered nothing but wipes. 42! people (37 lvl80) were online, but it was pretty hard to fill the raid. We wiped several times, discussing mistakes, adjusting strategies. From "half raid dead in first yellow ooze" we reached to:
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The moron was spotted by Ticklez, one of our inviters:
Friday, September 3, 2010
Removed links
Adam the noisy rogue noticed that several bloggers removed him from their blogroll, over the recent controversial posts. He wrote "[the blogroll] can be construed on the part of the blogger as, “who I like and who I don’t like.” ... but it is an extremely facile and juvenile one. It is akin to being in a popular group and not much else. ... But what I consider to be of extreme importance is the final level, and that is people who write things worth reading, even if they hold dissenting views to ones own. These are still bloggers that I feel are worth a look, even though I may not necesarily agree with them."
He misses two points here. The first is that the "first level" aka "I like it or not" is the only level for a social. If I don't like you, then you are evil, dumb, worthless, lying and most probably abusing goats. On the other hand if I like you, you are smart, worthy, bright, interesting and live a perfect family life." This is called the halo effect.
Please note that every adjective usable do describe a person is judgmental on the "good-bad" scale like "trustable-untrustable", "decent-indecent", "beautiful-ugly". The decision of socials, especially if they are about people are based on emotions. These emotions evolved to find mates and identify foes. That's what they do.
The ideas of the "respectable foe" or "I disagree with him but ready to fight for his right to tell his opinion" are incompatible with a social mind. If he has negative emotions about your post, than he finds you as whole worthless. So removing your "worthless blog" is the logical move from his point of view.
The second point is nastier and belongs to the "group of friends" effect, the most harmful nonsense of the socials. If I like A and B, then A and B must like each other. Every reasonable person must see it is nonsense, but "social" is the opposite of "reasonable" for a reason. So if I have you on my blogroll, I like you (why else would I have you there?), and if I like an evil person, I'm evil too! He might likes my blog but he doesn't like yours, so he must choose. By choosing to keep liking my blog, he feels that he automatically choose to like yours too. After all, we are one big group of friends.
So even a non-social blogger (most bloggers are intelligent enough to be able to control their social tendencies), can find it logical to remove a controversial blog from their roll: he can lose social readers. Also, he can be targeted by further abuses by socials who assume that he is a supporter of the mentioned controversial blog, even if he is obviously not. Some just don't feel like fighting every day with drooling morons and choose the easier way.
The bottom line is that writing controversial posts leads to losing links. It's just as normal as the fish in the sea or the sexism among lolkids.
My blogroll contains several bloggers who have much pinker views than I do. I often disagree with them, but I keep them on my roll. I practically remove only inactive blogs. There was one case when I removed an active blog from my roll: he was caught with extremely sneaky tricks. I'm afraid it wasn't the last so I simply don't consider it safe to visit his site.
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Today's moron added his extremely valuable insights about the blacksmith profession on the official forums (by Jason).
He misses two points here. The first is that the "first level" aka "I like it or not" is the only level for a social. If I don't like you, then you are evil, dumb, worthless, lying and most probably abusing goats. On the other hand if I like you, you are smart, worthy, bright, interesting and live a perfect family life." This is called the halo effect.
Please note that every adjective usable do describe a person is judgmental on the "good-bad" scale like "trustable-untrustable", "decent-indecent", "beautiful-ugly". The decision of socials, especially if they are about people are based on emotions. These emotions evolved to find mates and identify foes. That's what they do.
The ideas of the "respectable foe" or "I disagree with him but ready to fight for his right to tell his opinion" are incompatible with a social mind. If he has negative emotions about your post, than he finds you as whole worthless. So removing your "worthless blog" is the logical move from his point of view.
The second point is nastier and belongs to the "group of friends" effect, the most harmful nonsense of the socials. If I like A and B, then A and B must like each other. Every reasonable person must see it is nonsense, but "social" is the opposite of "reasonable" for a reason. So if I have you on my blogroll, I like you (why else would I have you there?), and if I like an evil person, I'm evil too! He might likes my blog but he doesn't like yours, so he must choose. By choosing to keep liking my blog, he feels that he automatically choose to like yours too. After all, we are one big group of friends.
So even a non-social blogger (most bloggers are intelligent enough to be able to control their social tendencies), can find it logical to remove a controversial blog from their roll: he can lose social readers. Also, he can be targeted by further abuses by socials who assume that he is a supporter of the mentioned controversial blog, even if he is obviously not. Some just don't feel like fighting every day with drooling morons and choose the easier way.
The bottom line is that writing controversial posts leads to losing links. It's just as normal as the fish in the sea or the sexism among lolkids.
My blogroll contains several bloggers who have much pinker views than I do. I often disagree with them, but I keep them on my roll. I practically remove only inactive blogs. There was one case when I removed an active blog from my roll: he was caught with extremely sneaky tricks. I'm afraid it wasn't the last so I simply don't consider it safe to visit his site.
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Today's moron added his extremely valuable insights about the blacksmith profession on the official forums (by Jason).
Thursday, September 2, 2010
The gemless archmoron
Running around without gems and enchants is the commonly accepted signal of being useless. They usually come with the excuse that they want to replace that piece fast, so they don't bother enchanting/gemming it. I'd like to prove that it's nonsense and anyone using this excuse is actually worse than "cba 2 buy gem lol".
Let's see 3 gems:
The same is true for enchants. For every item there are very cheap enchants that give 50%+ benefit of the "proper one", except for specialty enchants like +8% run speed. The 8 stats for chest cost 4 infinite dust and 2 lesser cosmic essence. That's really unreachable without no-life farming.
Using lower level gems and enchants are sign of planning, the guy is aware of the fact that the item will be replaced and also of the different options. He uses the best cost/benefit ratio gem/enchant. On the other hand the one without a gem is not economizing. He is either a moron, who is unable to calculate and honestly believe that a "lol blue gem" is much worse than the "epixx", or he is a slacker who doesn't care about his stats and performance, just his gearscore.
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I've seen people doing dailies or grinding monsters for 20G. But this 264-geared warrior in a regular instance beats them all (by Alex):
Let's see 3 gems:
- Epic "delicate" 20 agi, 150G
- Blue "delicate" 16 agi, 30G
- Green "delicate" 12 agi 4G
The same is true for enchants. For every item there are very cheap enchants that give 50%+ benefit of the "proper one", except for specialty enchants like +8% run speed. The 8 stats for chest cost 4 infinite dust and 2 lesser cosmic essence. That's really unreachable without no-life farming.
Using lower level gems and enchants are sign of planning, the guy is aware of the fact that the item will be replaced and also of the different options. He uses the best cost/benefit ratio gem/enchant. On the other hand the one without a gem is not economizing. He is either a moron, who is unable to calculate and honestly believe that a "lol blue gem" is much worse than the "epixx", or he is a slacker who doesn't care about his stats and performance, just his gearscore.
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I've seen people doing dailies or grinding monsters for 20G. But this 264-geared warrior in a regular instance beats them all (by Alex):
Wednesday, September 1, 2010
Déathnite above me suxx!
Someone approached me in the guild, telling that someone (let's just call him Déathnite) does very poor job. I did a quick check on the logs and noticed that he was below "Déathnite" on several fights, so I told him to mind his own poor performance before attacking others.
Later he replied with details about the actions of Déathnite that are not overall damage done related like targeting wrong adds, taking avoidable damage. He also pointed out the huge gear difference between himself and Déathnite, I mean he had near-blue gear and pulled 4.5K+ where Déathnite pulled 5K in 245-264.
I write this post because I've been there. I wrote how gear is overrated and they just claimed that "lol u just cant get decent gear". I was happily sitting over my 5-10K gold and tried to explain people that they don't need to farm and the "lol i farmed a bike u haz nothing" kids forced me to set up an industry to reach the goldcap just to continue my blog.
I've been there when I was logically right but nobody listened simply because I couldn't provide black and white empirical evidence. So it was really bad when I realized that this time I dismissed a good player's analysis simply based on a single damage done number. Back then I was sure that once I've reached high enough to be the one who is approached and not the one who approaches, I will treat people much more decently than I was treated, simply to remove necessary tedious grind from the mankind around me. And here I am, doing exactly what I was hating so much.
However, being where I am now gives an insight to things I did not see back then. Back then I developed an idea with logical analysis and presented it. I spent several hours of work on it and asked for only half an hour to verify the logic. I thought that the dismissal of my work without empirical evidence is simply due to stupidity, extreme laziness or outright jealousy. Now I'm overwhelmed by approaches.
I can't give your analysis half an hour because I don't have half an hour. If 100 people want half an hour its 50 hours. And 98% of those people are bringing some nonsense. Empirical evidence is hard to get as it needs lot of grind. Calculating that a blue-geared resto druid can heal Ulduar takes about 2 hours. Collecting blue gear took about 5 and clearing it took another 6. Thats 110 hours for the whole raid. Terrible waste of human hours right?
But looking at a killshot took seconds and it immediately separates me from the 10K wannabe geniuses who claim that "i cud do it without healerz". I have killshot, they don't. In a perfect world people would give half an hour to a fellow man since they would have all reasons to believe that they will be presented an insightful and carefully constructed analysis. In a world full of M&S, if you reached any position of power or visibility, you are approached by hundreds of retards spilling on you whatever nonsense they happened to conjure up in 5 mins. You need a quick and safe filter to separate diamonds from mud. The only filter can be black and white empirical evidence.
So if you are where I was years ago, having ideas and no one listening, don't get upset, defensive or sad! Start the hard work to get the data. It will take lot of time. It will feel pointless as you are proving something that is obvious to you. But it's necessary since you want the attention of people whose time is greatly diminished by drooling morons. Don't take it personal, we are not ignoring you, we have to ignore everyone unless we want our heads explode.
It's not our fault and not yours. It's the fault of the M&S.
So dear guildmember, please start collecting gear that allows you to get into the top 5. 245 with some 251 will do with your skill. Then people will listen. Until then you look like one of the "4K in 25 man" morons who think they are smarter than EJ. You can't imagine how many are they out there.
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A classical moron incoming. If you want more morons, send more morons!
Later he replied with details about the actions of Déathnite that are not overall damage done related like targeting wrong adds, taking avoidable damage. He also pointed out the huge gear difference between himself and Déathnite, I mean he had near-blue gear and pulled 4.5K+ where Déathnite pulled 5K in 245-264.
I write this post because I've been there. I wrote how gear is overrated and they just claimed that "lol u just cant get decent gear". I was happily sitting over my 5-10K gold and tried to explain people that they don't need to farm and the "lol i farmed a bike u haz nothing" kids forced me to set up an industry to reach the goldcap just to continue my blog.
I've been there when I was logically right but nobody listened simply because I couldn't provide black and white empirical evidence. So it was really bad when I realized that this time I dismissed a good player's analysis simply based on a single damage done number. Back then I was sure that once I've reached high enough to be the one who is approached and not the one who approaches, I will treat people much more decently than I was treated, simply to remove necessary tedious grind from the mankind around me. And here I am, doing exactly what I was hating so much.
However, being where I am now gives an insight to things I did not see back then. Back then I developed an idea with logical analysis and presented it. I spent several hours of work on it and asked for only half an hour to verify the logic. I thought that the dismissal of my work without empirical evidence is simply due to stupidity, extreme laziness or outright jealousy. Now I'm overwhelmed by approaches.
I can't give your analysis half an hour because I don't have half an hour. If 100 people want half an hour its 50 hours. And 98% of those people are bringing some nonsense. Empirical evidence is hard to get as it needs lot of grind. Calculating that a blue-geared resto druid can heal Ulduar takes about 2 hours. Collecting blue gear took about 5 and clearing it took another 6. Thats 110 hours for the whole raid. Terrible waste of human hours right?
But looking at a killshot took seconds and it immediately separates me from the 10K wannabe geniuses who claim that "i cud do it without healerz". I have killshot, they don't. In a perfect world people would give half an hour to a fellow man since they would have all reasons to believe that they will be presented an insightful and carefully constructed analysis. In a world full of M&S, if you reached any position of power or visibility, you are approached by hundreds of retards spilling on you whatever nonsense they happened to conjure up in 5 mins. You need a quick and safe filter to separate diamonds from mud. The only filter can be black and white empirical evidence.
So if you are where I was years ago, having ideas and no one listening, don't get upset, defensive or sad! Start the hard work to get the data. It will take lot of time. It will feel pointless as you are proving something that is obvious to you. But it's necessary since you want the attention of people whose time is greatly diminished by drooling morons. Don't take it personal, we are not ignoring you, we have to ignore everyone unless we want our heads explode.
It's not our fault and not yours. It's the fault of the M&S.
So dear guildmember, please start collecting gear that allows you to get into the top 5. 245 with some 251 will do with your skill. Then people will listen. Until then you look like one of the "4K in 25 man" morons who think they are smarter than EJ. You can't imagine how many are they out there.
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A classical moron incoming. If you want more morons, send more morons!
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