The title is a common Goon trolling, claiming that the massacre of their members is irrelevant, as only system ownership matters. Well, they need to find a new line:
Yes, I'm sure the damage control will start that "it was just FCON", but hey, who forces you to tolerate these failures in your coalition? I'm also sure they will take it back, just to lose something else, and such losses have a price:
And the best part is yet to come: ION-FG isn't just the first system MoA took from the Imperium of Evil. It's the first system anyone took from them in the Aegis Sov system. Not PL, not BL, not NC., not Nulli or any of the strong and "elite" did it, but MoA, making MoA the strongest strategic opponent of the Imperium.
Finally, let us contemplate over the fact that MoA is being "hellcamped" again, which clearly stops their activity, so a bunch of ratters totally didn't die and FCON was totally not evicted from Pure Blind. I wonder what make line members show up in the camp? Oh wait, being obedient minions do.
PS: to make an already great day perfect, in the wake of the disastrous Burn Amarr results, the leader of Miniluv, Warr Akini resigned. To underline that failure, he held a weekend ganking event in the proper ganking systems with proper crew and got better numbers than they did in Burn Amarr, proving my point that dragging around "bros" (morons and slackers) slows you down. Let us remember to this "ultra-competitive over-achiever" who failed to get to the top half of the pilots of 2014, despite PvP-ing relentlessly. He now returns to real life where he "consider myself extremely successful" (just like the miners who just don't have time to be at the keyboard) but we'll never forget his brilliant idea of taking highsec POCOs to serve as eternal monuments of the supremacy of Goons. Our sorrow over his departure is mixed with genuine fear that he might be replaced at the helm of Miniluv by someone with more competency than invertebrates. As a parting gift, let as provide to his request "in an active month, Miniluv kills more than one trillion ISK. Please point me to an organization that can achieve such mayhem in a single month in EVE and remain financially stable!" How about a corp of me + 7 players as good as me?
PS2: meet the brightest Goon in the block, who was so mad at losing his bling ship and pod that he threatened his killers with EULA violation (which was immediately reported of course):
Gaara's sniper: i'll make sure you all suffer with my 22 rattlesnake multiboxing
ION-FG is now the Capital System of Mordus AngelsYes, the minions of evil have to grind long because every system MoA takes becomes their capital with defensive bonus.
From: CONCORD
Sent: 2015.07.27 22:15
This system is now your Alliance Capital and all of Mordus Angels's sovereignty structures within it receive a defensive bonus.
And the best part is yet to come: ION-FG isn't just the first system MoA took from the Imperium of Evil. It's the first system anyone took from them in the Aegis Sov system. Not PL, not BL, not NC., not Nulli or any of the strong and "elite" did it, but MoA, making MoA the strongest strategic opponent of the Imperium.
Finally, let us contemplate over the fact that MoA is being "hellcamped" again, which clearly stops their activity, so a bunch of ratters totally didn't die and FCON was totally not evicted from Pure Blind. I wonder what make line members show up in the camp? Oh wait, being obedient minions do.
PS: to make an already great day perfect, in the wake of the disastrous Burn Amarr results, the leader of Miniluv, Warr Akini resigned. To underline that failure, he held a weekend ganking event in the proper ganking systems with proper crew and got better numbers than they did in Burn Amarr, proving my point that dragging around "bros" (morons and slackers) slows you down. Let us remember to this "ultra-competitive over-achiever" who failed to get to the top half of the pilots of 2014, despite PvP-ing relentlessly. He now returns to real life where he "consider myself extremely successful" (just like the miners who just don't have time to be at the keyboard) but we'll never forget his brilliant idea of taking highsec POCOs to serve as eternal monuments of the supremacy of Goons. Our sorrow over his departure is mixed with genuine fear that he might be replaced at the helm of Miniluv by someone with more competency than invertebrates. As a parting gift, let as provide to his request "in an active month, Miniluv kills more than one trillion ISK. Please point me to an organization that can achieve such mayhem in a single month in EVE and remain financially stable!" How about a corp of me + 7 players as good as me?
PS2: meet the brightest Goon in the block, who was so mad at losing his bling ship and pod that he threatened his killers with EULA violation (which was immediately reported of course):
Gaara's sniper: i'll make sure you all suffer with my 22 rattlesnake multiboxing
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I dunno if i cry out loud with so much stupidity this " successful" leader said, or i laugh ou loud and wait for more tears of this liars.
Multiboxing isn't a EULA violation. Input multiplexing is. There's a difference.
Because it's theoretically possible to control 22 ships in PvP without imput multiplexing, right?
It should be noted that a corporation of you and 7 players as good as you does not exist so in that regards his statement was quite accurate.
It should also be noted that many people recognized that with Fozziesov it was going to fairly easy for smaller groups to pick off the occasional system when an alliance wasn't paying attention. What is to be seen is if those smaller groups can actually hold that SOV if the big alliances want it back.
In that regard MOA isn't really relevant strategically. They can flip systems but they will not be able to hold systems when it strategically matters.
If a corporation with 1/8 performance and solvency existed, that's only a problem of scaling, not possibility or skill.
No doubt that it's easier to flip in Fozziesov. However it is equally easy for BL, PL, NC. Nulli or whoever and yet only MoA did that. So while we can argue if MoA can defeat CFC, we cannot argue over the fact that if ANYONE defeats CFC, it will be MoA (or an entity that's not even existing yet).
That is the problem though, you will never find 8 people like you and that are also willing to put in the time and effort and act cooperatively towards the goal. It is like you are saying that since you can run 100 meters in 10 seconds that you can beat the world record of 1500 meters (which is 3:26) since you would do it in 150 seconds (2:30) since it is just a scaling problem. It isn't just a scaling problem. It is a bit more complicated than that.
If you think it is no big deal then do it.
Forgot the second part.
You are now arguing that since MOA temporarily flipped SOV in one system that if the CFC dies it will be to MOA and not to one of the bigger alliances? Not only is that point arguable, it is clearly not a fact and it clearly isn't even likely.
MoA is the strongest among those standing up to the CFC. Everyone bigger is afraid or pacified via "meta-gaming".
I will do it after I've done with Goons.
"No doubt that it's easier to flip in Fozziesov. However it is equally easy for BL, PL, NC. Nulli or whoever and yet only MoA did that. So while we can argue if MoA can defeat CFC, we cannot argue over the fact that if ANYONE defeats CFC, it will be MoA (or an entity that's not even existing yet)."
why does BL NC or any other ally want to flip a system for one day?
they know, the imperium will drop the hammer on them if they flip a system near our home. it would be great if they do so, cause currently eve is getting very boring. but it wont happen.
It's almost like they're too tired to spin well anymore. Feel free to make yourself a martini out of that tear about feelings hurt by fudged stats.
"Because it's theoretically possible to control 22 ships in PvP without imput multiplexing, right?"
When they're rattlesnakes, yes. They're kinda the perfect drone-assign ship.
@Anonymous: if it won't happen, then we concluded that CFC will be defeated by MoA, a yet unknown entity or won't be defeated.
@Tsed: so he bridges his fleet into combat, then manually Alt-Tab each client to turn on hardeners, release and assign drones. After he did it 21 times, he'll switch to his leader pilot to shoot his first salvo. PLEASE, do that!
MoA would not care if they can hold SOV or not. As long as they can take it, which is a prime example here and hell, an achievement compared to other big alliances.
As for that brightest goon, who on earth flies a 2bil pod in a 1bil ship while 5z is being "camped" warps to gate but cannot jump cause he aggroed it first? someone give this player the settings for GTFO or Warp Out in overview...
Yes, one may argue: the player had ISK to burn. Yep agreed. Isk to burn stupidly.
We both know that regardless of your opinion on the tactic, he's talking about camping the 5Z/X-7 undock. Which, yes, is trivial to multibox effectively with drone assist. The other guy who does the same with Chimeras doesn't use any multiboxing software (I don't even know if isboxer works reliably in linux, which he's running eve on, for some reason), has been reported many times by MOA, and has yet to catch any sort of punishment (because, you know, he's following the rules).
MoA is engaged in pure gorilla combat. CFC can hellcamp their 'base' all they want, they can even retake the system that they lost, MoA will just disappear back into the jungle to strike when and where they choose.
They took a system, and will continue to take systems. They don't need to defend them, cause each ratter they kill, each miner they destroy, and every system they flip, slowly whittles away the CFC's desire to fight back, or even log in.
One of your top MOA killers seems to disagree with you:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5908322#post5908322
159Pinky
Under Heavy Fire
Mordus Angels
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#15 - 2015-07-20 15:48:27 UTC
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No:
For one this will make the game too complicated.
Two, there are so many workarounds: like you said make a small holder alliance with active chars to catch pings from getting entosissed ( or whatever you call it ) and fuel stuff. Then you form up a fleet with your main alliance and protect the couple of entosis guys from the holding alliance.
Three: this looks like you want to adress the CFC. They allready shrunk and from what I've seen they are responding quiet nicely. Last night we were very close but SMA managed to get a big enough blob on field just in time. Props to them cause it was a nice fight.
Face it: MOA alone cannot take sov away from CFC. For people claiming otherwise, prove it and I'll admit I'm wrong but untill then I stick to my point.
Why would MoA want to take sov from CFC? Please grind away and retake it.
When your not looking we'll hit it again, or better yet, somewhere else. We don't play by CFC's rules of blob combat, we use unconventional tactics. In the words of JFK:
"There is another type of warfare—new in its intensity, ancient in its origin—war by guerrillas, subversives, insurgents, assassins; war by ambush instead of by combat, by infiltration instead of aggression, seeking victory by eroding and exhausting the enemy instead of engaging him. It preys on unrest."
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why would MoA want to take sov from CFC? Please grind away and retake it.
When your not looking we'll hit it again, or better yet, somewhere else. We don't play by CFC's rules of blob combat, we use unconventional tactics. In the words of JFK:
"There is another type of warfare—new in its intensity, ancient in its origin—war by guerrillas, subversives, insurgents, assassins; war by ambush instead of by combat, by infiltration instead of aggression, seeking victory by eroding and exhausting the enemy instead of engaging him. It preys on unrest."
Let me ask you a question anonymous, how many times have alliances thought they can wear down the CFC? Pretty much every one of them the CFC has faced. Hasn't worked in that past, won't work now. Even if you managed to take systems, they will just take them right back. No big deal on them. Your quoting words from JFK as if they have any meaning in a video game. That's the big difference here. MOA thinks they can win by using real world tactics when in all reality that's there biggest mistake yet.
"Let me ask you a question anonymous, how many times have alliances thought they can wear down the CFC? Pretty much every one of them the CFC has faced. Hasn't worked in that past, won't work now. Even if you managed to take systems, they will just take them right back. No big deal on them. Your quoting words from JFK as if they have any meaning in a video game. That's the big difference here. MOA thinks they can win by using real world tactics when in all reality that's there biggest mistake yet."
They said the same things about the NC. Back then I said that nothing lasts and everything has an ending, no exceptions. I said that there were many cracks and I was told I was crazy and it would never happened. A year after the NC was no more.
Before goons said also they would never be defeated in Querious and Delve. In came IT Alliance and goons convenienly forgot to pay their sov bill just as they were loosing ground. Right! If something eve has showed us, is that nothing last.
I am not saying that MOA can do it by itself but what I can tell you is that CFC is weak atm. They are not as strong as they seem. All is needed is continued non stop herassment. Not in one system but all systems. Rather than having 800+ fleets more like having multiple of about 100 attacking simultaneously multiple systems. Goons work well in mass(blob) but when they have to separate, they dont do nowhere near.
Looks like a logistics system or it held some guys reaction farm. Doubt they expected to hold these random systems after the change anyway.
"This system is now your Alliance Capital and all of Mordus Angels's sovereignty structures within it receive a defensive bonus"
Hah! I hadn't considered that feature. Nice touch. The Imperium is still going to sit on the whole constellation and burn it down on the first shot, but it will be more annoying at least and provide a chance to catch people coming and going with gate camps.
On a side note, did something happen with your feed? I thought you were on vacation as nothing had popped up in Feedly for over a week. I came directly here because I couldn't imagine you not posting about this. Had to go delete it and add it back in to get it to update.
It held a cynobeacon, now FCON's JF pilots will have to rely on cynoalts once more.
~FCON member
Anonymous said...
"I am not saying that MOA can do it by itself but what I can tell you is that CFC is weak atm. They are not as strong as they seem. All is needed is continued non stop herassment. Not in one system but all systems. Rather than having 800+ fleets more like having multiple of about 100 attacking simultaneously multiple systems. Goons work well in mass(blob) but when they have to separate, they dont do nowhere near."
How do you figure CFC are weaker now? They have more people then ever, they abandoned useless space and consolidated in only 4-5 regions. You're also assuming that the CFC can't ever fight in small gangs, this is a horrible misconception as the CFC has plenty of guys who can fight in small gang warfare also. Grant it the CFC has a shitton of new guys, do get me wrong. If the CFC was still spread out over the west from Delve to Vale, I'd say you're probably right, they would be in a weaker position post fozzie sov. But they are not. They have plenty of people that don't mind keeping systems from flipping. That is another misconception about the CFC. You think you can bore them to death, isn't going to happen.
Lets be serious here the only way the CFC/Imperium will die is if someone runs over mittens with a truck and even then it's unlikely as they'd all go look for the guy driving the truck first.
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