Greedy Goblin

Tuesday, May 28, 2013

Who are the second group of players?

You could see yesterday that the players who go to the Looking for Raid feature do not belong to one kind of group, therefore the performance distribution on the players is not a Gaussian, but the combination of two Gaussians. It's like the height distribution of "pets" where some of the pets are dogs and others are cats.

Let's find them! I dug into the WoW armory and gathered the item level (the power of the gear) of all 496 players belonging to my dataset and plotted the DPS vs their ilvl:

Got a terribly noisy dataset with very weak, 0.316 fitting goodness. But it's not a problem at all, as we aren't here to find the connection between ilvl and DPS but to identify the two distinct groups of players. So I started to identify and successively remove data points that are the farthest from the fitting line.

If a dataset is random, then there are nearly equal amount of points both below and above the line. The graph below shows this balance. Here every removed point was given +1 if it was above the line and -1 if below. If it's random, the resulting line should be a noisy one around zero:

Oops! The 80 most unfitting points are almost all above the line. Among the next 40 worst fitting points, 28 are above the line and 12 below. Let's see where these 120 points are and how the remaining dataset looks like?

You can see that the cleansed data is not only fitting much better, 0.714, but it's direction is changed too, from 0.30X to 0.42X. This is because the removed, one-sided data were not random extremes, but from a distinct group. Now let's see the removed points: 20 of them are below the line, they are simply random extremes of the main group. There is 20 similar above the line. The other 80 above the line points are the ones who don't belong. So let's calculate the mean and stdev of the 80 most unfitting and do the same for the 416 remaining points. Let's compare these results with what we've found yesterday with the fitting of two Gaussians:
Majority average Majority STD Minority average Minority STD Minority ratio
Gaussian fit method 69 20 47 10 21%
Unfitting data method 67 20 53 15 16%

Very good similarity, we seem to have found our two distinct group of players. Below you can see their DPS, Ilvl and number of gearing errors (missing gems, enchants...):
Average DPS Average Ilvl Average gear errors
Majority 67 498 2.9
Minority 53 510 2.2

"Newbies" and "Casuals" are the terms used on bad players, who just "need help". Now look at this: the minority group, who has significantly worse performance have much better gear and less gearing mistakes. They clearly have time to farm gear. They seem to have enough game knowledge to gem and enchant. Yet they perform worse than the majority. Who else they can be than leeching slackers? Like in all socialist system where the "weak" gets help, in MMOs the player groups are intruded by leeches who don't make any effort but get their rewards abusing the other players and the socialist systems. When the Looking for Raid feature was first introduced, below-the-tank leeches were kicked routinely. But Blizzard decided that the "newbies and casuals" deserve help and made kicking very hard. This is the result: AFK-ers, autoattackers and bots.

So we found the biggest factor of success: effort. There are people who try to succeed and others who just whine, blame "luck" and leech on those who pull their weight. And Blizzard forces us to tolerate them! Well, they can't force me, I unsubscribed again and go back to EVE!


PS: the 0.415X in the cleansed dataset means that 1K DPS increase usually means 0.415 ilvl better gear. It does not mean that 0.415 ilvl increase cause 1K DPS increase on average. The DPS is function of more things than Ilvl therefore you can't just form an inverse function this way.

Below the click you can find the whole dataset: "distance from average in sigma","ilvl","fails","Link"
3.98,525,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Archan%C3%A2/advanced"
1.81,510,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/Alcasthorn/advanced"
1.33,511,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Avaneesh/advanced"
1.01,512,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Amberl%C3%A9/advanced"
0.80,522,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Vladushoodru/advanced"
0.54,501,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/Devens/advanced"
0.25,512,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Seonia/advanced"
-0.21,513,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Nimfawodna/advanced"
-0.25,485,6,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Noobla/advanced"
-0.34,497,6,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Siv%C3%BDvlas/advanced"
-0.51,489,4,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Ysmay/advanced"
-0.62,490,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/Stumpz/advanced"
-0.67,512,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Tsil/advanced"
-1.01,488,6,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Triestilawl/advanced"
-1.34,483,9,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Lol%C3%B1/advanced"
-1.34,487,11,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Doomline/advanced"
2.72,517,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Ellvie/advanced"
2.24,513,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/Greenax/advanced"
2.15,514,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggra-portugues/Ghalandriel/advanced"
1.80,498,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/Dreflock/advanced"
1.64,516,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/Shootemdwarf/advanced"
1.32,518,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/Tiddly/advanced"
1.08,514,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/daggerspine/Achronos/advanced"
0.95,504,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodhoof/Anye/advanced"
0.77,505,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Onna/advanced"
-0.25,495,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/Darukill/advanced"
-0.25,481,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Washa/advanced"
-0.42,486,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Shurty/advanced"
-0.49,485,8,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Digitaldeath/advanced"
-1.33,498,11,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Thisismee/advanced"
-1.35,484,12,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodhoof/Allera/advanced"
-1.60,515,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Sinedra/advanced"
1.48,501,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/Harv%C3%A9y/advanced"
1.43,510,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Theneo/advanced"
1.28,502,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Tnsofdmg/advanced"
0.63,503,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/Elementi/advanced"
0.59,507,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Loopydoo/advanced"
0.08,493,9,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodscalp/Saqula/advanced"
0.07,489,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Keire/advanced"
0.05,495,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Ceiro/advanced"
-0.03,514,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Cindervein/advanced"
-0.04,498,4,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/Valashi/advanced"
-0.36,501,4,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/R%C3%A9p%C3%A1s/advanced"
-0.40,494,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Wulfrune/advanced"
-0.43,494,10,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Songokuh/advanced"
-0.74,511,4,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/Firefart/advanced"
-0.89,504,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodscalp/Diplon/advanced"
-1.14,511,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/Isthirria/advanced"
2.19,504,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggra-portugues/Darkchosmos/advanced"
2.12,507,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Arcturuss/advanced"
1.80,511,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bladefist/Verruckt/advanced"
1.04,508,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Diamanda/advanced"
1.03,503,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/B%C3%A8rz%C3%A8rk/advanced"
0.86,511,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodhoof/Oggzilla/advanced"
0.85,499,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Grolschlager/advanced"
0.47,500,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Tedry/advanced"
0.10,514,4,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/twilights-hammer/Erymanthos/advanced"
0.02,503,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Kamilgd/advanced"
-0.16,514,19,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Hussarx/advanced"
-0.16,510,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Deadlyhands/advanced"
-0.72,502,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Zelenoocka/advanced"
-0.80,481,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/%C3%9Cdby/advanced"
-0.92,494,4,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodhoof/Sturridge/advanced"
-1.29,497,11,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggra-portugues/Hevlaska/advanced"
1.23,507,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Infinitie/advanced"
1.07,500,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodscalp/Sanqo/advanced"
1.05,509,4,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Jenca/advanced"
0.98,508,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Teone/advanced"
0.92,507,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Togglebus/advanced"
0.81,503,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Sacrament/advanced"
0.65,494,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Shazzr%C3%A1h/advanced"
0.54,496,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Shadowblazer/advanced"
0.49,499,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Shadowblazer/advanced"
0.37,492,3,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Ejbik/advanced"
0.12,507,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Rexthebest/advanced"
-0.91,486,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Astanashar/advanced"
-0.97,500,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Ap%C3%B8ll%C3%B8n/advanced"
-1.35,488,12,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/Brokkoli/advanced"
-1.56,487,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Cadz/advanced"
-1.79,498,14,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodhoof/Mentini/advanced"
1.58,501,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Tomdarkness/advanced"
1.41,513,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Necrohammer/advanced"
1.11,497,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonmaw/Calau/advanced"
1.10,511,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Mattatui/advanced"
0.79,507,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/F%C3%A9ardotcom/advanced"
0.55,496,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Costoboci/advanced"
0.37,504,9,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Tvixy/advanced"
0.25,509,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/daggerspine/Zian/advanced"
0.15,510,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Iordain/advanced"
0.07,506,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Losmisiakos/advanced"
-0.01,494,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Vercin/advanced"
-0.57,484,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Celticblitz/advanced"
-0.62,504,7,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Gearframe/advanced"
-0.81,505,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Dog/advanced"
-1.13,485,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Estatic/advanced"
-1.47,490,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Kuljo/advanced"
1.82,511,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Jauffre/advanced"
0.50,508,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/Ulfee/advanced"
0.34,493,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Kornel/advanced"
0.27,504,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Screaming/advanced"
0.27,498,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Diamage/advanced"
-0.06,496,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Mongwan/advanced"
-0.07,510,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Akosia/advanced"
-0.15,520,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Szwarzzeine/advanced"
-0.37,499,7,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/Xperlharbour/advanced"
-0.47,491,8,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodscalp/Dylan/advanced"
-0.58,491,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Dambledoor/advanced"
-0.66,501,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/Walhalla/advanced"
-0.84,505,7,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Kaffekop/advanced"
-0.89,507,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Ciribrik/advanced"
-1.14,483,10,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Grutte/advanced"
-1.16,504,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Kefster/advanced"
2.19,507,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Iladaar/advanced"
1.90,510,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/Mikepower/advanced"
1.88,510,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Vazlaq/advanced"
1.62,512,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Xeert/advanced"
0.87,510,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bladefist/Karmagedonas/advanced"
0.52,508,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggra-portugues/Stonefists/advanced"
0.44,505,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodhoof/Nutann/advanced"
0.32,495,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodscalp/Nylena/advanced"
0.21,494,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Kags/advanced"
-0.43,485,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/Diakana/advanced"
-0.62,491,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/R%C3%B3bson/advanced"
-0.67,508,3,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Dark%C3%B3n/advanced"
-0.83,484,3,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Shathor/advanced"
-0.94,496,9,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Temri/advanced"
-1.04,483,6,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Haugtussa/advanced"
-1.26,492,18,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Kungp%C3%B3w/advanced"
2.20,522,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Czykitaa/advanced"
0.84,510,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Velrial/advanced"
0.38,500,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Apherus/advanced"
0.37,496,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Wilow/advanced"
0.27,497,3,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/Kylarstern/advanced"
0.09,505,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Raacoon/advanced"
0.03,496,8,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Zodk/advanced"
-0.03,493,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Appraiser/advanced"
-0.10,507,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/Alubel/advanced"
-0.36,496,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Humanpride/advanced"
-0.39,491,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/Lazar%C3%BAs/advanced"
-0.54,485,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Canofwoopass/advanced"
-0.65,499,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/Peyral/advanced"
-1.02,498,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Skylake/advanced"
-1.15,487,19,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/S%C3%A9ledian/advanced"
-1.38,488,6,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Tygricekzc/advanced"
1.87,520,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Pallthunti/advanced"
1.55,517,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Wolfuss/advanced"
1.27,507,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Jaggal/advanced"
0.77,509,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/Vergangenes/advanced"
0.67,492,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Simfony/advanced"
0.57,507,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Adames/advanced"
0.53,501,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/Arathor/Jakin/advanced"
0.45,506,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/Azjolnerub/Mamou/advanced"
0.23,506,4,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/Doomhammer/Snowya/advanced"
0.09,485,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Gargorak/advanced"
0.03,503,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Chavun/advanced"
-0.48,488,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/Bloodhoof/Lexxy/advanced"
-0.55,486,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Glorien/advanced"
-1.02,488,19,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/Zamzooma/advanced"
-1.12,491,4,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Contest/advanced"
1.21,509,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/alakir/Kalevkill/advanced"
1.20,510,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Tituss/advanced"
0.84,507,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/Bitmap/advanced"
0.61,502,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Rogulski/advanced"
0.61,499,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Nitrous/advanced"
0.15,511,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Zeddcus/advanced"
-0.19,499,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Morg%C3%A0nna/advanced"
-0.20,511,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Holyfighter/advanced"
-0.29,497,9,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Thalinaar/advanced"
-0.53,494,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bladefist/Ironcaster/advanced"
-0.64,488,4,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Psykix/advanced"
-0.81,503,6,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/dandia/advanced"
-1.10,488,6,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Panamah/advanced"
-1.29,510,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/Kruimel/advanced"
-1.38,488,7,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/Erekka/advanced"
-1.62,486,19,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/deathwing/Epicwarior/advanced"
0.97,503,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Johnnyhun/advanced"
0.82,506,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Laelitha/advanced"
0.59,498,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Mandinga/advanced"
0.58,501,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/Zadoc/advanced"
0.40,509,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/natasia/advanced"
0.16,489,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggra-portugues/Angilizer/advanced"
0.11,513,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Vorosh/advanced"
-0.33,511,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/stormbringer/advanced"
-0.34,487,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Seiryoku/advanced"
-0.37,488,3,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/thilds/advanced"
-0.87,508,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/maeglcarwen/advanced"
-1.03,508,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Dal/advanced"
-1.24,506,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/shamarra/advanced"
-1.54,485,9,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/krispie/advanced"
-1.98,502,10,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/deathwing/Everhate/advanced"
1.75,508,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Ghostvirus/advanced"
1.62,512,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Monarchgnome/advanced"
1.32,499,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/nihalist/advanced"
1.09,510,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/pacemaker/advanced"
1.03,499,6,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Muenne/advanced"
0.90,510,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/lerigord/advanced"
0.68,504,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/Baz%C3%AEnga/advanced"
0.59,494,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Riddicw/advanced"
0.52,512,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Mirieney/advanced"
0.45,510,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/empula/advanced"
0.30,503,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/twilights-hammer/Frostblade/advanced"
-0.26,505,8,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/Aggramar/morrie/advanced"
-0.27,486,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/M%C3%BAru/advanced"
-0.39,486,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/agamaggan/Spidercl%C3%A1w/advanced"
-1.02,509,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/afterlife/advanced"
-1.41,498,3,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/thadelia/advanced"
0.89,521,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/melphas/advanced"
0.84,499,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/zenedar/centaurus/advanced"
0.59,501,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Kevalina/advanced"
0.33,498,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/raikken/advanced"
0.26,514,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Goranth/advanced"
-0.34,484,9,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Rawdeal/advanced"
-0.67,490,8,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Ep%C3%A1k/advanced"
-0.68,490,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/farsite/advanced"
-0.75,486,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/nurdo/advanced"
-0.82,506,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodhoof/elmilagro/advanced"
-0.87,510,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Allusia/advanced"
-0.89,483,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/thillia/advanced"
-0.90,487,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Drapuszek/advanced"
-0.93,497,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Tuborgg/advanced"
-1.05,491,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/furong/advanced"
-1.37,487,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/crankcase/advanced"
1.44,518,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/R%C3%A9lay/advanced"
1.29,508,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/zenedar/Imani/advanced"
0.84,500,4,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodscalp/Valdius/advanced"
0.64,508,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/vampi/advanced"
0.38,510,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Mariug/advanced"
0.36,502,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/ekaterinska/advanced"
0.30,510,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Notjet/advanced"
-0.06,498,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/twilights-hammer/Edsan/advanced"
-0.37,487,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/zantar/advanced"
-0.41,498,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/sunstrider/zazul/advanced"
-0.49,498,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Ruhan/advanced"
-0.57,484,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/shankbone/advanced"
-1.00,496,12,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/nikibaby/advanced"
-1.04,498,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Vandos/advanced"
-1.73,488,9,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Pandoras/advanced"
-1.81,491,22,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/Tirill/advanced"
2.73,522,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Seelenjaeger/advanced"
2.13,519,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodscalp/Elyminator/advanced"
2.11,515,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Erzamen/advanced"
1.52,515,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Kshira/advanced"
1.43,505,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Brutalen/advanced"
1.22,512,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodhoof/Piktou/advanced"
1.00,504,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Pinioslaw/advanced"
0.65,504,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/Worldbinder/advanced"
0.35,505,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodhoof/zelmiane/advanced"
0.27,501,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Zalibart/advanced"
-0.60,484,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/El%C3%ACza/advanced"
-0.87,492,8,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Srindya/advanced"
-1.01,485,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/sunstrider/Saidar/advanced"
-1.17,482,9,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Pickeloo/advanced"
-1.41,498,8,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Sluttyvixen/advanced"
-1.44,500,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Annirette/advanced"
2.61,512,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/taimo/advanced"
1.00,503,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggra-portugues/Oforfamar/advanced"
0.98,505,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggra-portugues/minorcas/advanced"
0.80,503,4,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Ebhoth/advanced"
0.54,495,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Regulos/advanced"
0.53,509,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodhoof/moobei/advanced"
0.45,511,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/frostika/advanced"
0.24,506,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bladefist/nobinhood/advanced"
0.18,503,7,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodscalp/Varangyh/advanced"
0.11,514,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Mistilly/advanced"
0.06,511,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggra-portugues/Showleader/advanced"
-0.36,506,6,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/anniska/advanced"
-0.53,506,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Volkh/advanced"
-0.63,505,4,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bladefist/trojax/advanced"
-0.75,499,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/furiad/advanced"
-1.39,488,19,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/cigiman/advanced"
1.91,502,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Tyrel/advanced"
1.33,503,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/goltan/advanced"
1.31,510,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/frostone/advanced"
0.77,500,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Kreun/advanced"
0.71,494,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Keirgar/advanced"
0.68,516,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Warfare/advanced"
0.41,497,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/agamaggan/Yrene/advanced"
0.08,515,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/tintos/advanced"
-0.05,512,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/ricdam/advanced"
-0.17,497,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/rython/advanced"
-0.25,495,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/S%C3%A9nsei/advanced"
-0.35,502,6,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/spize/advanced"
-0.38,490,13,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Thorim/advanced"
-0.85,507,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodhoof/leeuw/advanced"
-2.36,514,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Trystan/advanced"
-2.45,509,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Moleesung/advanced"
1.60,505,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Lefey/advanced"
1.48,510,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/Zsgy%C3%ADk/advanced"
0.46,515,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/posefemale/advanced"
0.40,490,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Moosheep/advanced"
0.27,498,10,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonmaw/simpade/advanced"
0.18,500,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/b%C3%ADtty/advanced"
-0.07,501,12,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodscalp/depes/advanced"
-0.18,483,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Voltio/advanced"
-0.33,484,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/luvie/advanced"
-0.81,484,9,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/twilights-hammer/Downer/advanced"
-0.98,490,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Selinthia/advanced"
-1.08,492,14,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/zenedar/dreamweaver/advanced"
-1.32,495,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Darkprofet/advanced"
-1.40,488,9,"eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Vinarus/advanced"
-1.93,487,4,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Malisity/advanced"
-2.23,484,10,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/qorth/advanced"
1.92,512,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Stobila/advanced"
1.49,500,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/Antlion/advanced"
1.22,506,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodscalp/yong/advanced"
0.90,488,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Fireblastrer/advanced"
0.56,504,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dunemaul/aimstar/advanced"
0.28,500,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodscalp/littleevil/advanced"
0.12,497,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bladefist/aqire/advanced"
-0.15,497,9,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/mcbreath/advanced"
-0.25,507,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Asameth/advanced"
-0.30,486,7,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Silachim/advanced"
-0.38,505,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Patrickje/advanced"
-0.52,487,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dunemaul/kuijana/advanced"
-0.98,490,3,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Yellea/advanced"
-1.00,486,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Wavelet/advanced"
-1.63,503,13,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/fasa/advanced"
-2.09,517,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Jadee/advanced"
2.11,512,3,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Samasikutra/advanced"
1.00,521,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/sipmark/advanced"
0.79,501,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/lilonka/advanced"
0.51,512,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/amondei/advanced"
0.45,506,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Fau/advanced"
0.26,494,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Frudo/advanced"
0.22,497,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/agamaggan/L%C3%ADvia/advanced"
0.14,493,3,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/voncloud/advanced"
-0.14,497,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/fizle/advanced"
-0.20,506,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/gheolun/advanced"
-0.24,496,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Senturus/advanced"
-0.26,494,6,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/mevi/advanced"
-0.32,489,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggra-portugues/Furballs/advanced"
-0.46,504,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Superhealzz/advanced"
-0.88,480,9,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/Yalmar/advanced"
-1.20,484,8,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/swens/advanced"
1.77,507,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/arantis/advanced"
0.87,513,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/talla/advanced"
0.86,503,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/zenedar/C%C3%ACbo/advanced"
0.46,491,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Szprej/advanced"
0.41,492,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/stardotstar/advanced"
0.40,509,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodhoof/shenestha/advanced"
0.39,509,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/chamberlain/advanced"
0.39,494,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/jonome/advanced"
0.00,492,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/ulycees/advanced"
-0.04,495,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/cuppateaa/advanced"
-0.13,505,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Wizbod/advanced"
-0.13,493,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/miqqi/advanced"
-0.35,504,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/krixi/advanced"
-0.42,488,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodscalp/ara/advanced"
-0.84,480,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Illunia/advanced"
-1.04,496,7,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bladefist/tjock/advanced"
1.89,516,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/wilfy/advanced"
0.71,501,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Kormad/advanced"
0.63,514,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Nessa/advanced"
0.50,494,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/thysthere/advanced"
0.12,498,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Brewtalit%C3%BD/advanced"
-0.07,488,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Kyou/advanced"
-0.12,503,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/twilights-hammer/Azreell/advanced"
-0.25,513,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/E%C3%B4wyn/advanced"
-0.84,480,4,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Ishnelador/advanced"
-0.89,487,3,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Myterio/advanced"
-1.07,501,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/englishpride/advanced"
-1.14,489,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Malteaser/advanced"
-1.42,488,12,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Worgian/advanced"
-1.42,514,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Alokadius/advanced"
-1.53,483,9,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodscalp/Pinela/advanced"
-1.98,509,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Banehallowgr/advanced"
1.92,519,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/aqillius/advanced"
1.91,522,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Wutuff/advanced"
1.00,502,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/sunstrider/sindal/advanced"
0.50,493,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/shadowdemons/advanced"
0.34,500,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Sm%C3%A1llfr%C3%ADe/advanced"
0.29,504,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/terrordworf/advanced"
0.14,501,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/fatusbloke/advanced"
0.08,490,3,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Nukis/advanced"
0.06,504,12,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Doroftey/advanced"
0.05,515,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Moxy/advanced"
-0.30,509,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Guinness/advanced"
-0.54,507,4,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/alakir/Predat%C3%B4r/advanced"
-0.67,484,13,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/arathor/mizu/advanced"
-0.75,496,20,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Fhae/advanced"
-1.50,488,11,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Kuninghunt/advanced"
-1.52,485,20,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonmaw/basileios/advanced"
1.08,508,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Ni%C3%A1a/advanced"
0.54,503,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodhoof/abramelin/advanced"
0.34,506,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Gomoie/advanced"
0.34,508,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/chelseaa/advanced"
-0.02,487,5,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Sudimet/advanced"
-0.27,486,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/cidia/advanced"
-0.32,484,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/grulzaz/advanced"
-0.38,483,11,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodhoof/loafpincher/advanced"
-0.42,500,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Pinrgen/advanced"
-0.46,503,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/neytirie/advanced"
-0.58,505,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodscalp/L%C3%ADriel/advanced"
-0.73,490,8,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodhoof/Kittikat/advanced"
-0.90,483,10,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/shiroyasha/advanced"
-0.95,486,3,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/allsaint/advanced"
-1.02,480,8,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/argent-dawn/Readhunter/advanced"
-1.13,489,1,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aszune/oljadblixt/advanced"
1.81,513,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Landserr/advanced"
1.67,511,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/barryscott/advanced"
1.52,510,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/sam/advanced"
1.02,502,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/vareck/advanced"
0.92,509,0,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azjolnerub/Ekzim/advanced"
0.40,497,2,"http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/exploud/advanced"
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8 comments:

Maxim Preobrazhenskiy said...

So, in less mathy terms...

For a geared raider, unless you are doing full raid clears on a weekly basis, there is a necessity to go into LFR every week to max out valor. Weekly LFR rewards remain one of the most efficient ways of doing so. Some people even choose to do it before any of the week's raiding happens to max out their valor before any of the week's bosses.

Obviously, since to these people that is not "real content", they slack most of the time. And Blizzard does not see any alternative but to cater to that slacking.

So the suprising thing here is that it is not catering to the "bad players" that diminishes WoW as a game, but rather catering to the more successful part of the playerbase :D

Now, are the game designers at fault for making a game like that, or is the playerbase at fault for seeing it as okay to slack off when playing together with 24 other people?

That's the chicken-or-egg here :D

Coralina said...

So am I right in thinking that this actually disproves a widely held belief amongst the WoW community?

That being that RF is full of "bad casual" players and that they are only able to kill bosses due to the presence of Normal/HC mode raiders, who are by deliberate design forced to run there and boost the bad players.

The figures suggest that there are not masses of HC Raiders boosting anyone, just some not particularly good Normal mode raiders who are AFK'ing and leeching from the "bad casuals"?

Camo said...

The question is what do we make of it?
Are those players real leeches or are they players who game the system that supports bad players in the first place?
Are they the cause or a symptom of this broken system?

Maxim Preobrazhenskiy said...

The system was originally good and was good for a while. It generated those "affluently lazy" players, but they largely did their own thing in their own locked out raids, only becoming a part of the overall player pool in occasional 5-man daily.

The problem at that time was the fact that raiders effectively separated themselves from the community and only logged in to raid with their guilds. Community engagement was limited to valor 5-mans, AH interaction and limited PvP for easy access starter epics. Still, many farmed valor and conquest in guild groups and got all they needed from the guild bank.

LFR brought these players together with the overall player pool in a bigger way. Now they not only raid with their guilds, but also do LFRs for gear and quick valor. All the while allowing those same players to get away with less personal responsibility.

So those players are both the cause of the new system and it's symptom.

As for whether this system is broken or not ...
I think the system broke in WotLK. The WORLD part of warcraft was done the instant they a) removed attunements b) added dungeon finder c) made flight easily accesible. Influx of players that we saw in WotLK was due to people attracted to ez mode. Thing about ez mode though, it is not sustainable in the long run.

Dàchéng said...

I'm trying to match the datapoints to the plots, and I'm having a bit of a problem. There are two players listed whose ilvl is 525, but only one of them appears on the charts. The first of these players listed has a huge sigma. Is he off the charts?

Also, is it possible that some of the outliers above the line represent players who died during the fight?

Gevlon said...

2 Players are missing from the second dataset, because I couldn't find them on the armory (could be transfer away), the player you looked for could be one of them.

Since I was present in the fight, I made sure that dead got combat res. It's hard to die on Meg

Anonymous said...

You are wrong Gevlon.

Dacheng.
Stand deviations = 20,
Average = 65
Archanâ would have 145 dps. The displayed range is 25-105. He would not get listed.
He however is an outlier and not relevant for this data set.

What I find interesting is that there is a huge gap between Archanâ and everyone else. It indicates something, maybe a lack of representation of the raiding community, maybe a low N. Maybe there is a 3rd group that would not participate in LFR.

Anonymous said...

All this shows is how having time to farm and copying the suggestions of some "optimal gearing" program does not make you a good player.

Theorycrafting for your avg WoW player these days is "I have Ask Mr Robot." People don't care about performance anymore 'cos they just want the shiny's and they know if they put in the hours they will get them (unlike vanilla / early TBC where it could take months for an average guilds to learn a single fight because there was a real challenge there)

I have a history of going back to WoW after expansions to see the new content, but after 6 weeks of Cata there was really no point in continuing. There is no challenge, there is nothing to be proud of, there is only the grind...