So does this mean you're done with this Blog? I think there's still more you can post, but sometimes when people reach their goals, they don't go further. I could make this more coherent, if I wasn't so sleepy XD
Not to be picky, but your screenshot shows you a few hundred gold below cap.
I also reached cap this week and am retiring from the AH-trading game to focus full-time on raiding. We're on Yogg-Saron and should (hopefully) have him down before the reset.
Molinu It's kinda obvious. The whole point of his blog has been to show people the techniques he has used to make gold. In doing so, its helped a bunch of us who perhaps had not considered the possibilities to generate our own gold so that we can buy those enchants and epic crafted items to make the game a bit more fun. Thanks Gevlon !! Awesome blog.
yes .. grats and thanks for a great blog .. been following it for several months now and it not only changed my gold count but also my attitude towards a couple of things.
But I agree with Pangoria ... mail gold to an alt and continue!
Grats! I hope this doesn't mean that you'll quit blogging. YOu have some unfinished business - there are other experiments to do. What about the "pay for teaching" for instance?
Congratulations on your achievement (and BTW I second the idea that there should be a feat of strength for this - perhaps with a title "the Greedy Goblin"?)! I hope you don't quit blogging - you've made even a casual AHer like me upper middle-class, to say nothing of no longer feeling good when I top the DPS meters :)
I don't think Gevlon will stop blogging because of this. But It's a good milestone for a business man, Gratz Gevlon.
I wonder what will one do, when they reach the cap? If Gevlon could share his thoughts when he start to notice he's near the cap, that would be very nice.
Invest a total of 100,000 gold in the auction house and post your results, along with a list (addon-made, probably) of what you bought, at what prices, and what it sold at. If you have losses, then you can get more gold. Its a win-win situation.
Now to a new challenge.. how to spend the money on ingame wealth (mounts, faction rep, other stuf for your char) fastest? Really hope you are going to continue blogging, love your blog gevlon :)
And like many others have said, I hope this is not the end of your blogposts about the wow economy, or worse, that it would remove all of your interest in playing the game at all.
Please continue with your postings, even if they don't involve making WoW gold. They gave me something to read each day on the bus as I was travelling to work !
Figure out what money can buy in WoW and go get it. I loved your idea of buying raiding time with advanced guilds. I'd love to see how it goes if you try that for Ulduar. Of course, back in the days of BT I was all for buying and selling raid IDs.
Seriously--find out how much cool stuff you can get with money. Buy all the mounts, pay your way through any purchaseable grinds, buy raid spots, and tell us about it. I'd be reading. You can tell us all what's worth it and what's not.
I know if I had all that gold, I would find some fun little things to buy with it. Too bad it can't buy extra bank space beyond the standard!
So the next phase should be interesting. This blog likes to talk about philosophy and parallels to real life inner workings - and this should be no different.
What happens when you reach 1 billion dollars. (ok you can still make more than 1 billion, but its still a game-over sum).
Some people have 1 billion dollars and still refuse to spend their money, since they got there through scrimping, saving, or just using their money smarter.
Other people decide that they can now just go buy whatever cars they want, do what they want to do, etc... and live it up.
Based on the premise that the ability to create wealth is easier when you have a large base to begin with, I would speculate that there might be something to be said about spending the coin... but replenishing along the way...
Then again, like billionaires - you would run out of things to buy that brought you satisfaction.
So then what?
Thats a little easier in real life to answer - not so easy in WoW terms. The only real answer is contrary to the regular writings and philosophies of our host - assistance of M&S... But like I said, that would be like welfare - which I have gathered is NOT Gevlon's idea of a good thing (not mine either).
So its a circular issue.
Only thing I can think of thats left is to adopt a group of people as a guildmaster... find people that are not M&S... and finance their endeavors into raids. Gevlon could get loot or experience any time he wished, having a priority spot on the roster. He could pay people for good effort, or intelligence - nurturing those who are already good to strive for better.
All of this is of course base conjecture - and perhaps a flawed view of this situation. I would like to see a responsorial blog entry - something to let us know what does one think of doing once reaching a pinnacle of this aspect of the game.
Yes, I think that is a flawed view of the situation. You cannot finance a raiding guild like you can finance a company.
It doesn't really cost that much per person to raid. Throwing gold at the situation is not going to make it happen.
See, gold is not perfectly liquid in WoW like it is in real life, so it is not a major motivator for many people, at least not beyond a reasonable level, where you can afford enchants, repairs, and such.
Mostly, I think people raid for loot, and if you take away chance for loot from say, every druid, you just are not going to get any druids to join your raid.
I have an experiment. How much would it take for someone to gladly put up with a M&S? How much gold would it take for a group to carry you through an instance with you doing ABSOLUTLY NOTHING other than following along and trash talking in the party channel? Would a 5-man cost 200G? (50 to each player) Would a 10-man group want 100G each? What value do 25-man raiders give to their time?
Considering all of your posts about socials tolerating the M&S for free, It would be interesting to see what they would charge when you state upfront that you will provide nothing to them.
Or have a contest. Go into a group as an M&S. Whoever is the first one to apply the goblinish principles and demand that you be kicked, give him/her 100G. (Extra gold if they use especially colorful language) Give the players a RL lesson that it pays to demand that others live up to a standard.
Congratulations, Gevlon. And, more appropriately, Thank You.
"Wealth is the product of man's capacity to think." -Ayn Rand
Grats, but tbh nothing special considering the crazy realm you must be on. Selling all those glyphs, at such a huge profit is a far away dream on most realms.
Gz Gevlon! thank you for your dedication to the blog! though im getting a bit worried since there isn't an update since sunday! you'll have your reasons.
Um somebody mentioned the title "The Greedy Goblin" in-game. You might be on your way to some day having something in the game named after you. But if you stop blogging now, your name will not live on forever in such a way. Would the death of your blog serve destiny in a fitting manner? Or will your name live on forever?
Nice work Gevlon. I hope the guild idea works (I'm sure it will). I really like your creativity with that idea. See the new content on your terms...smart goblin thinking.
Congratulations on reaching the gold cap and joining a pretty small club. It's a shame the game design doesn't provide any interesting options for investing or spending at that level.
The 'Greedy Goblin' achievement would be a nice touch but it would be debased almost immediately by guilds pooling their resources and passing the gold around to each member to trigger the achievement.
To make it a genuine distinction the system would have to remove the gold from the game, for example by having tiered player housing (10k, 50k, 100k etc) and on buying the house the gold is removed from the economy and the achievement granted. Unless the housing provided functionality at each tier (say as a shop with more capacity and lower running costs) it might not prove very successful though.
Everything that has a beginning, has an end, Neo. - said the Oracle, and it's quite true.
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Congratulations, Gevlon, although judging by what your post it wasn't terribly hard for you. What's next?
your posts on this site*
So does this mean you're done with this Blog? I think there's still more you can post, but sometimes when people reach their goals, they don't go further. I could make this more coherent, if I wasn't so sleepy XD
Not to be picky, but your screenshot shows you a few hundred gold below cap.
I also reached cap this week and am retiring from the AH-trading game to focus full-time on raiding. We're on Yogg-Saron and should (hopefully) have him down before the reset.
Thanks for all the tips Gevlon!!
why stop? mail it to an alt and keep going lol.
Out of curiosity, why did you bother making so much gold? Was it just to prove that your techniques work?
The reason I ask is because most players seek gold to buy gear, enchants, mounts, etc., but that doesn't seem to have been your purpose.
Molinu
It's kinda obvious. The whole point of his blog has been to show people the techniques he has used to make gold. In doing so, its helped a bunch of us who perhaps had not considered the possibilities to generate our own gold so that we can buy those enchants and epic crafted items to make the game a bit more fun. Thanks Gevlon !! Awesome blog.
Gratz Gevlon!!!
I swear this should earn an in-game achievement.
Congratulations on your accumulated pixels!
yes .. grats and thanks for a great blog .. been following it for several months now and it not only changed my gold count but also my attitude towards a couple of things.
But I agree with Pangoria ... mail gold to an alt and continue!
Thank you for this blog, i hope you will continue doing what you are the best at!
Grats! I hope this doesn't mean that you'll quit blogging. YOu have some unfinished business - there are other experiments to do. What about the "pay for teaching" for instance?
"When Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept for there were no more worlds to conquer."
Big Congratulations!
what was the total time it took you to get to the cap?
/Astmathic
All our gold are belong to Gevlon.
Congratulations on your achievement (and BTW I second the idea that there should be a feat of strength for this - perhaps with a title "the Greedy Goblin"?)! I hope you don't quit blogging - you've made even a casual AHer like me upper middle-class, to say nothing of no longer feeling good when I top the DPS meters :)
Mail gold to alts and shoot for 1million gold in my opinion =P
Congratulations on hitting the gold cap!
Will you be doing a longer post on your thoughts on this milestone, and your journey so far?
What will you be doing next?
Awesome work Gevlon! Have you been able to find ANY profit though from Dark Jade and Shadow Crystals? congrats again =)
Congratulations, Gevlon... Keep bloggin' - that's the Goblin way!
I don't think Gevlon will stop blogging because of this.
But It's a good milestone for a business man, Gratz Gevlon.
I wonder what will one do, when they reach the cap?
If Gevlon could share his thoughts when he start to notice he's near the cap, that would be very nice.
Invest a total of 100,000 gold in the auction house and post your results, along with a list (addon-made, probably) of what you bought, at what prices, and what it sold at. If you have losses, then you can get more gold. Its a win-win situation.
Congratulations Gevlon. Don't spend it all in one place. :P
Now to a new challenge.. how to spend the money on ingame wealth (mounts, faction rep, other stuf for your char) fastest?
Really hope you are going to continue blogging, love your blog gevlon :)
Congratulations!
And like many others have said, I hope this is not the end of your blogposts about the wow economy, or worse, that it would remove all of your interest in playing the game at all.
For the first time since I started reading this blog, there is nothing posted for a day. What could this mean?
215000 is the gold cap. I never knew. Thanks for the info.
Start filling your alts with gold :)
But there's little use to get even more gold, you've long passed the limit where getting more gold is useful.
Well, now what? Ulduar? Arena? A break for the game? Dont leave us hanging, tell us.
Hey Gevlon
Please continue with your postings, even if they don't involve making WoW gold. They gave me something to read each day on the bus as I was travelling to work !
Grats! I have a challenge for you:
Spend that gold!
Figure out what money can buy in WoW and go get it. I loved your idea of buying raiding time with advanced guilds. I'd love to see how it goes if you try that for Ulduar. Of course, back in the days of BT I was all for buying and selling raid IDs.
Seriously--find out how much cool stuff you can get with money. Buy all the mounts, pay your way through any purchaseable grinds, buy raid spots, and tell us about it. I'd be reading. You can tell us all what's worth it and what's not.
I know if I had all that gold, I would find some fun little things to buy with it. Too bad it can't buy extra bank space beyond the standard!
So the next phase should be interesting. This blog likes to talk about philosophy and parallels to real life inner workings - and this should be no different.
What happens when you reach 1 billion dollars. (ok you can still make more than 1 billion, but its still a game-over sum).
Some people have 1 billion dollars and still refuse to spend their money, since they got there through scrimping, saving, or just using their money smarter.
Other people decide that they can now just go buy whatever cars they want, do what they want to do, etc... and live it up.
Based on the premise that the ability to create wealth is easier when you have a large base to begin with, I would speculate that there might be something to be said about spending the coin... but replenishing along the way...
Then again, like billionaires - you would run out of things to buy that brought you satisfaction.
So then what?
Thats a little easier in real life to answer - not so easy in WoW terms. The only real answer is contrary to the regular writings and philosophies of our host - assistance of M&S... But like I said, that would be like welfare - which I have gathered is NOT Gevlon's idea of a good thing (not mine either).
So its a circular issue.
Only thing I can think of thats left is to adopt a group of people as a guildmaster... find people that are not M&S... and finance their endeavors into raids. Gevlon could get loot or experience any time he wished, having a priority spot on the roster. He could pay people for good effort, or intelligence - nurturing those who are already good to strive for better.
All of this is of course base conjecture - and perhaps a flawed view of this situation. I would like to see a responsorial blog entry - something to let us know what does one think of doing once reaching a pinnacle of this aspect of the game.
Roy,
Yes, I think that is a flawed view of the situation. You cannot finance a raiding guild like you can finance a company.
It doesn't really cost that much per person to raid. Throwing gold at the situation is not going to make it happen.
See, gold is not perfectly liquid in WoW like it is in real life, so it is not a major motivator for many people, at least not beyond a reasonable level, where you can afford enchants, repairs, and such.
Mostly, I think people raid for loot, and if you take away chance for loot from say, every druid, you just are not going to get any druids to join your raid.
I have an experiment. How much would it take for someone to gladly put up with a M&S? How much gold would it take for a group to carry you through an instance with you doing ABSOLUTLY NOTHING other than following along and trash talking in the party channel? Would a 5-man cost 200G? (50 to each player) Would a 10-man group want 100G each? What value do 25-man raiders give to their time?
Considering all of your posts about socials tolerating the M&S for free, It would be interesting to see what they would charge when you state upfront that you will provide nothing to them.
Or have a contest. Go into a group as an M&S. Whoever is the first one to apply the goblinish principles and demand that you be kicked, give him/her 100G. (Extra gold if they use especially colorful language) Give the players a RL lesson that it pays to demand that others live up to a standard.
Congratulations, Gevlon. And, more appropriately, Thank You.
"Wealth is the product of man's capacity to think."
-Ayn Rand
Congratulations Gevlon, and keep blogging.
I hope you continue to blog Gevlon...today's absence of a post scares me.
Congratulations, by the way.
Gevlon, I have a new quest for you: Create an in game bank.
That's right, give people a 4% interest and allow them to deposit/withdrawal at any time. You in turn can take their money to invest on the AH.
Whatcha' think?
You could also buy the insane in the membrane achievement, becoming possibly world first?
Grats, but tbh nothing special considering the crazy realm you must be on. Selling all those glyphs, at such a huge profit is a far away dream on most realms.
Looks like it's time to do some shopping!
i'm curious: had you not reached the gold cap after your main business died in the arse, what would you have done? had you discovered new markets?
Grats :)
I enjoy your blog/tips, I hope you keep it up, after all reaching the gold cap was going to happen sometime, it shouldn't mean "job done".
The gold cap is kind of like your cerdential, your authority to instruct on gold making and WoW economy, not an end in itself.
Gratz. If you need ideas what to do next: I would be very pleased, if you try to convert your knowledge into realworld business like ebay.
For example I start my auctions in that way, that they will end on sunday - maybe you have more and better tips like this for us!
Thx 4 your blog
Roman
How about this. You pay one of the top guilds for the legendary healer mace. Put the $ to good use.
Gratz Gevlon!
Gz Gevlon! thank you for your dedication to the blog! though im getting a bit worried since there isn't an update since sunday!
you'll have your reasons.
again Gz
Grtz
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I agree with the other anonymous saying get the legendary mace. You are legendary you've earnt it.
Congrats.
Sell the gold for real moeny and start again :)
Um somebody mentioned the title "The Greedy Goblin" in-game. You might be on your way to some day having something in the game named after you. But if you stop blogging now, your name will not live on forever in such a way. Would the death of your blog serve destiny in a fitting manner? Or will your name live on forever?
Nice work Gevlon. I hope the guild idea works (I'm sure it will). I really like your creativity with that idea. See the new content on your terms...smart goblin thinking.
Congratulations on reaching the gold cap and joining a pretty small club. It's a shame the game design doesn't provide any interesting options for investing or spending at that level.
The 'Greedy Goblin' achievement would be a nice touch but it would be debased almost immediately by guilds pooling their resources and passing the gold around to each member to trigger the achievement.
To make it a genuine distinction the system would have to remove the gold from the game, for example by having tiered player housing (10k, 50k, 100k etc) and on buying the house the gold is removed from the economy and the achievement granted. Unless the housing provided functionality at each tier (say as a shop with more capacity and lower running costs) it might not prove very successful though.
Having "finished" the economy game in World of Warcraft there is really only one step up you can take - EVE.
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