tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post9006887257442778514..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: I'd rather burn itGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-41246846003565070672009-06-23T15:51:26.463+02:002009-06-23T15:51:26.463+02:00its a common misconception of the spoilt western w...its a common misconception of the spoilt western world that hard work is always gonna be valued and paid for appropriately and therefore everyone has a chance to improve his social or economic status. this is not the case at all, 'hard work' is not a set figure but relative throughout the globe. in many countries you can work your ass off and still stay poor, you cannot chose what system you are born in. calling these people lazy is the epitome of western ignorance. one example is south africa where we ruin the inland markets with our superfluous cheap export wares with which prices no local farmer could ever compete. their corrupt govs do not regulate it via tax or restrictions and do not protect their own people. after all cheap is good right, greed for the win goblins?<br /><br />we are not the makers of our own luck people, you might like to see yourself like that but most of you (me included) with enough time on your hands to frequent internet blogs and spend time posting their oh-so educated opinions about this and that are nothing but lucky and do not really know what hard work means. one tip: it's not working 30-40hours in some office and a coffee machine. and i'm sure you do work for your money and you think you earned it too but in fact you are lucky to live somewhere where there is such work available and where it gets paid the way it is.<br />luck - nothing but luck. so what i miss here most of all is a little bit of modesty and thankfulness for the gifts you were given by sheer luck, not your own effort at all.salnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-16241379906364753652009-05-20T22:51:29.973+02:002009-05-20T22:51:29.973+02:00Look you damn trolls don't piss off the goblin or ...Look you damn trolls don't piss off the goblin or he's gonna go Galt on us.Felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12054118201209739492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-9736919760169004442009-05-20T00:56:49.791+02:002009-05-20T00:56:49.791+02:00Honestly, this makes a lot of sense. Seeing as how...Honestly, this makes a lot of sense. Seeing as how you support giving to causes that work for the improvement of mankind's potential as a whole, and dislike giving to individuals who don't earn it in any way, how do you feel about supporting people who, through no fault of their own, become unable to support themselves? For instance, a person gets, lets say inoperable, incurable cancer, and doesn't have the money, insurance, or other resources to pay for treatment. Is it better to give them money, and comfort them in their dying days? or give it to a research institute working on an as-yet far off treatment for the disease, in order to help future sufferers of the disease, at the cost of the people suffering in the present?<br />If I come off as a troll, it's not by intention- I'm honestly curious as to which outcome you would prefer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-16780892367713731792009-05-19T19:37:00.000+02:002009-05-19T19:37:00.000+02:00Hey Gevlon, if you haven't already, take some time...Hey Gevlon, if you haven't already, take some time to read Malcolm Gladwell's "Outliers: The Story of Success."<br /><br />It might give you some new insights into your own, as well as others' perspectives on economics, hard work, and opportunity.<br /><br />Here is a brief amazon blip: <br /><br />"Malcolm Gladwell poses a more provocative question in Outliers: why do some people succeed, living remarkably productive and impactful lives, while so many more never reach their potential? Challenging our cherished belief of the "self-made man," he makes the democratic assertion that superstars don't arise out of nowhere, propelled by genius and talent: "they are invariably the beneficiaries of hidden advantages and extraordinary opportunities and cultural legacies that allow them to learn and work hard and make sense of the world in ways others cannot." Examining the lives of outliers from Mozart to Bill Gates, he builds a convincing case for how successful people rise on a tide of advantages, "some deserved, some not, some earned, some just plain lucky."<br /><br />Anyways, always enjoy your entries, whether I curse at my screen, smile inside, or clap in agreement :)Wigginnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-15215231132992420822009-05-19T13:35:00.000+02:002009-05-19T13:35:00.000+02:00Gevlon,
Others have covered the obvious economic ...Gevlon,<br /><br />Others have covered the obvious economic hazard of burning your money (<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflation#Deflation_in_Japan" REL="nofollow">deflationary trap, anyone?</A>) but I would like to cover a different area.<br /><br />This post might some up what I find so puzzling about you. You usually claim to act in an almost robotic how-do-I-get-my-percentage sort of way in your daily life. You say vanity items are useless and anyone who buys them is wasting their money.<br /><br />Yet you can't resist explicit moralizing when anything involving the poor comes up. Giving money to the poor is "...the worst of all, as it rewards laziness and stupidity, harming the world. If you give it to the poor, you are doing something evil, just like if you would pay hooligans to destroy cars and such. Because of your action, more and more people will decide to abandon working and start leeching on the world." Giving money to the poor is <I>the very same thing</I> as putting the boot in at the next West Ham match. You say, much like American politicians, that we must have food stamps and not cash because it's wrong to spend taxpayer money on drugs. I'll just pass over the bald assertion that literally every single poor person is a drug fiend.<br /><br />I don't support food stamps, and instead support just cash payments for simple, goblinish reasons. Everyone has SOME cash, even if it's from turning in cans at the supermarket, so the drug users just spend their cash on drugs and use the food stamps for food. Therefore, food stamps or other forms of material support make absolutely no difference in terms of total drugs consumed, and require a massive federal bureaucracy that consumes $7 for every $1 paid out.Russellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-91943796261642263302009-05-19T09:01:00.000+02:002009-05-19T09:01:00.000+02:00An individual deleting or burning physical money b...An individual deleting or burning physical money by themselves would have no real effect on a first world economy like the US. Aside from the fact that it is illegal to do so, (try burning a note or two on the steps of a police station) paper money is simply a means of exchange which is controlled by the government.<br /><br />If Bill Gates and Warren Buffet got together and burned their collective fortunes, the US Treasury would simply reprint it the next day. There would be absolutely no effect on prices.<br /><br />Nor would secretly burying it have much effect on prices either. Wether it's kept in a bank account or withdrawn and buried for a hundred years, it is still in circulation and the government takes this into account. They'll also print new money according to demand from the banks, not necessarily by how much is on the street.<br /><br />When it finally gets dug up and used it may cause a fluctuation due to more money being on the market, but the government will fix that by either printing less for a while, or by taking it off the street through normal banking processes and destroying it themselves.<br /><br />In a lot of ways the same thing applies to WoW. A player deleting all their gold, however they do it, won't have much of an effect. WoW has the opposite problem (of inflation) most of the time as gold is too easy to get and there are no real controls on limitation of cash coming into the economy. Think of what would happen to the US if the treasury just ran the presses hot. Hint - Check out Zimbabwe's recent fiscal history.Stropphttp://stroppsworld.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-67010616734272653792009-05-19T03:08:00.000+02:002009-05-19T03:08:00.000+02:00Would deleting money really change the prices of i...Would deleting money really change the prices of items? I would think that the $ supply that matters is the amount that is moving through the economy, not the amount sitting in a bank.<br /><br />I suppose that if you continue earning $ & throwing it into the great forge in IF, that would improve peoples buying power.<br /><br />also, what would the equivalent of micro-loans be in WoW? Handing out linen bags to starting characters? Possibly offering to buy gathered mats for a percentage of the market value? <br /><br />(I know that I'd be happy to sell ore to a goblin at 90% of whatever they can get for it. he gets profit for standing around the AH, I get an AH expert to sell my stuff for me)baltanoknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-70163261051665295692009-05-19T02:24:00.000+02:002009-05-19T02:24:00.000+02:00"YOU did not build the US. YOU did not create the ..."YOU did not build the US. YOU did not create the life you were born into. So yes.. your situation has everything to do with the place you were born and not how hard you yourself have worked."<br /><br />I think the fundamental difference between you and this poster is the view on offspring responsibility. He views the hard/smart working individual's lineage as ownership of that person, and you see life individually, that there is no way an individual should be negatively effected by his forefathers. <br /><br />I'm not sure where I stand on this, nor do I even know if this is the case. Does anyone happen to know of any further reading on a topic such as this?Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-4621101961837405232009-05-19T02:18:00.000+02:002009-05-19T02:18:00.000+02:00What do you think about the category of people who...What do you think about the category of people who have disabilities or illnesses outside of their control (ex. cancer). There are many cases where their families work so hard, and do their best to support their ill/disabled family member but struggle with medical prices, equipment ect. I personally think it would not be a waste of money to support this category. Perhaps directly giving money is not the best way, but supporting medical fees/medicine.<br /><br />As for the poor, I think there are different categories of people for that. There are people who are lazy and don't do anything and are poor as a result of that. But there are also people who are poor who try to support their family, and work hard but can't support the bills or what not. So I think along the lines of your PS2, supporting them with clothing and what not, and maybe setting up a place for them where they can have an opportunity to learn how to support themselves would be a good idea.Rubymelonhttp://www.rubymelon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-78882530702389614332009-05-19T00:06:00.000+02:002009-05-19T00:06:00.000+02:00We are not lucky, luck has nothing to do with it. ...<I>We are not lucky, luck has nothing to do with it. I am from the US, and as such I am reaping the rewards of the hard work and determination of a people who came to an untamed land, made it their own and in less than 150 years turned it into one of the most prosperous and influential nations in history. They weren't lucky, they were incredibly hard working individuals, but they were also smart (i.e. not morons). Working hard has little value if you do not also work smart. This is why an airline pilot who is required by regulations to fly no more than 15 hours a week is paid 1000% more than a janitor working overtime every week just to make ends meet.</I>.<br /><br />You are lucky. By your own admission you were born in the US and are reaping the rewards of people that came before you. <br /><br />YOU did not build the US. YOU did not create the life you were born into. So yes.. your situation has everything to do with the place you were born and not how hard you yourself have worked. <br /><br />Your self delusions and self importance are laughable.... entertaining but laughable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-54839866050754111952009-05-18T23:34:00.000+02:002009-05-18T23:34:00.000+02:00Going back to the initial reason for Gevlon's "bur...Going back to the initial reason for Gevlon's "burn it" post: I think that giving money to a topguild to join them as an economist who raids at his pleasure (instead of at the guild schedule) is a great idea because it's something different and fun. It adds flavor to the game. It's original. It adds depth to the guild and to Gevlon's history as a player. It's a conversation piece. Everyone involved seems to be having fun with it. Situations like this that help all players involved get some more enjoyment out of a game they've been playing for a long time are known as win-win.<br /><br />Originality and flavor are key elements to keeping people interested and having fun. Doing something new that puts a different spin on the game for yourself and other players, and that everyone enjoys, is always a good thing, even if it doesn't quite work out. And this seems to have worked out which is the icing on the cake.Toadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-68459904175376510842009-05-18T23:03:00.000+02:002009-05-18T23:03:00.000+02:00@thoumyvision
What they have not inherited is the...@thoumyvision<br /><br /><I>What they have not inherited is the attitude that it is possible to improve one's lot through hard work and determination. This lack is what makes them morons, or ignorant if you like.</I>Wow.<br /><br />Just...wow.<br /><br />Suppose you're born in a remote village 25 miles from the nearest school, electricity, or running water. Your entire family and your friends all have to go to work in the fields from childhood in order to grow the food you need to survive. Over your life, you have optimized the yield of your plot of land enough so that your family isn't literally starving like some people you know in the next village. You have diversified into having some livestock as well as crops. Yet you do not have the luxury of having gone to school and have no access to books. There is literally no way you could have gotten a formal education in this setting, and some moron from half-way around the world calling themselves "thoumyvision" is claiming that you are poor because you don't think it's possible to improve your lot through hard work and determination.bradnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-56830115281154220932009-05-18T22:43:00.000+02:002009-05-18T22:43:00.000+02:00Its been a long time since I've read it, but I thi...Its been a long time since I've read it, but I think you'd really like "The Gospel of Wealth" by Carnegie.<br /><br />Also for people complaining that we should be helping out people in 3rd world areas, check out kiva.org - its a program to _lend_ them money with a plan to pay it back.Travisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-20284414649659519932009-05-18T21:47:00.000+02:002009-05-18T21:47:00.000+02:00What I meant in the post that you quoted, is that ...<I> What I meant in the post that you quoted, is that the worlds poor, the people in third world countries that are barely scraping by DO work much harder then the vast majority of people in a first world country. I've met people that get up and WALK 10 miles to work in the morning and then work all day at back breaking labour and then walk 10 miles back home to their mud and cardboard hut, and they do this for 1-2 dollars a day. Then they have to clean and cook for their family. THAT IS HARD WORK. Or people in africa that have to carry water on their heads all day long just so their family can have enough to stay alive. THAT IS HARD WORK. We rich people in the developed world don't have to work that hard. We are the lucky. We have leisure time. We have expendable cash. Even the poorest of us in first world countries do. </I>It gets me pretty aggravated when people make the assumption that mindless physical labor is somehow more noble and "hard" than the work of the mind, and that those of us who can work without sweat are somehow "lucky". <br /><br />We are not lucky, luck has nothing to do with it. I am from the US, and as such I am reaping the rewards of the hard work and determination of a people who came to an untamed land, made it their own and in less than 150 years turned it into one of the most prosperous and influential nations in history. They weren't lucky, they were incredibly hard working individuals, but they were also smart (i.e. not morons). Working hard has little value if you do not also work smart. This is why an airline pilot who is required by regulations to fly no more than 15 hours a week is paid 1000% more than a janitor working overtime every week just to make ends meet.<br /><br />Many of us in developed countries have inherited the work ethic, but obviously those people in 3rd world countries who are walking 10 miles every day to work all day have inherited a strong work ethic too. What they have not inherited is the <I>attitude</I> that it is possible to improve one's lot through hard work and determination. This lack is what makes them morons, or ignorant if you like. The <B>worst</B> thing we can do is to give money to these people, therefor reinforcing the cultural attitude that they are lesser people in need of <I>monetary</I> assistance. It may be cliched by now, but the truism of teaching a man to fish still stands.thoumyvisionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07969046614894999384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-13740355582432264332009-05-18T21:01:00.000+02:002009-05-18T21:01:00.000+02:00@ Damn Near Everyone:
Get a GRIP people. The she...@ Damn Near Everyone:<br /><br />Get a GRIP people. The sheer amount of bile I'm seeing here is absolutely amazing. I wish I had time to make a rebuttal for every logical fallacy, but I honestly don't have an entire week to spare.<br /><br />It doesn't matter what 'position' Gevlon is writing from. He has backed his arguments up with sound fact and tested economic theory. I disagree with him on minor points (the economic impact of vanity items), but not on the major ones.<br /><br />In particular, a LOT of you are ignoring Gev's previous posts on the subject. This is far from the first time Gev has discussed how to improve the condition of the poor, and a lot of you are bringing up arguments he's already made a rebuttal against. If you're not willing to take the time to do a bit of digging before launching into a tirade, don't be surprised if Gev doesn't bother taking the time to reply to you.<br /><br />Poor people are M&S. It is NOT necessarily their fault - they might be stuck with little or no education, or in an economy that's collapsed and has no productive work available. It still doesn't change the fact that simply giving them a wad of cash isn't going to do a damn thing to improve their long-term situation. Without an education to guide them or a productive economy to inject money into, the money you sent might as well be toilet paper.<br /><br />What Gev is suggesting is that we take a long-term view. Rather than just give to the needy, why not take a look at *why* they are in need and donate to projects that will address those long-term needs? People need steady jobs and an education more than they need handouts.Molinunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-72057410064498078422009-05-18T19:53:00.000+02:002009-05-18T19:53:00.000+02:00Barrista said
This is true, but just giving them...Barrista said <br /><br /><I>This is true, but just giving them money still doesn't help. They will stay in the same country and that country will take any help you send them for their leaders. Oddly enough, you are in front of your computer typing this and not in Africa. You are doing the very thing you are chastising Gev for... not helping. You comment doesn't help these poor african nations in any way.</I>A) reading comprehension is important. Learn to read the entire post and take it in context.<br /><br />In post are are quoting I stated that people were possibly misunderstanding Gevlon's stance that all forms of help = giving money = bad. And that while just giving cash rarely has any help that actual helpful things are not bad. So in that we are in agreement.<br /><br />As for the rest of your comment....<br /><br />B) nice straw man argument. 1... how do you know my computer is not in africa? lol. and 2.. when did I say me being on my computer was helping the poor? Of course reading this blog isn't.... but that doesn't mean I don't do other things that DO help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-72789658942145913072009-05-18T19:45:00.000+02:002009-05-18T19:45:00.000+02:00The assumption that rich people are lazy is false,...<I>The assumption that rich people are lazy is false, The percentage of lazy rich people is much smaller than that of poor one's, the only way lazy people get rich is to inherit it, i.e. Paris Hilton. Eventually the idle rich will fritter away their wealth, distributing it through their own stupidity. It might happen over a few generations, but the dynasties who stay rich are the ones who keep their strong work ethic from generation to generation.</I>Your naivety is shining brightly. And you are only considering the first world wealthy as rich and the first world "poor" as poor. And your view might hold true in this sense. But in reality even people on welfare or minimum wage in a first world country are extremely rich when viewed and compared on a world stage.<br /><br />What I meant in the post that you quoted, is that the worlds poor, the people in third world countries that are barely scraping by DO work much harder then the vast majority of people in a first world country. I've met people that get up and WALK 10 miles to work in the morning and then work all day at back breaking labour and then walk 10 miles back home to their mud and cardboard hut, and they do this for 1-2 dollars a day. Then they have to clean and cook for their family. THAT IS HARD WORK. Or people in africa that have to carry water on their heads all day long just so their family can have enough to stay alive. THAT IS HARD WORK. We rich people in the developed world don't have to work that hard. We are the lucky. We have leisure time. We have expendable cash. Even the poorest of us in first world countries do.<br /><br />You say the only rich who don't work hard are those who inherit like Paris Hilton. But in the grand scheme of things you ARE one of the paris hiltons of the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-87237788213240928342009-05-18T19:27:00.000+02:002009-05-18T19:27:00.000+02:00PS2: if you really, really want to give something ...<I>PS2: if you really, really want to give something to the poor, give them clothes, medicine or food, never-ever money. If you give food, you support the food producers, as they get your money. If you give money, you support the gamblers and liquor and drug dealers of the sector.</I>A lot of posts have been made contrasting the M&S in wow and the poor in Africa. With respect to the latter, your advice above is wrong. We should be sending money and not food. The money however should to go African farmers to provide food for their own local countries. <br /><br />This is what a number of aid organizations are advocating as the only way to solve the long term problem of poverty there.<br /><br />Poor conditions make farming difficult, but nothing insurmountable. But there is no point so long as subsidized grain from well meaning western countries undercuts them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-4358269333900833422009-05-18T19:21:00.000+02:002009-05-18T19:21:00.000+02:00It is very telling that Gevlon rarely ever address...It is very telling that Gevlon rarely ever addresses a comment made by someone that challenges his assertion that the poor are M&S. This view indicates someone very young and full of all the knowledge a book can give him, yet utterly and completely ignorant in how the world actually works. In other words, Gevlon lacks perspective and worse lacks the interest to get it because of the amount of book knowledge he has.<br /><br />This blog is fascinating in the same way that I stare at a car wreck as I go by. It's a glimpse into one person's macabre view of the world. It's sad, and I can't help but pity him. (Yes, another worthless ape-subroutine, in Gevlon's vernacular)Sourmashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10406455864920182347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-1106519773628107892009-05-18T19:13:00.000+02:002009-05-18T19:13:00.000+02:00I see a lot of confusion in various posts about th...I see a lot of confusion in various posts about the cause of falling prices.<br /><br />Gold only enters the server gold supply (total gold on all accounts):<br />1. Gold dropped from Mobs<br />2. Gold given by NPC vendors for items<br />3. Gold from quest rewards<br />4. Server transfers (if you consider the gold supply of all servers, this is negated).<br /><br />Gold leaves the supply from:<br />1. Items bought from NPC vendors<br />2. Repairs<br />3. AH fees<br />4. Training<br />5. If someone quits the game and never comes back, his gold is effectively removed.<br /><br />If you earn money from the AH, yes your gold increases, but the total server gold supply slightly decreases from the AH fee. If everyone tried to make $ from professions (crafting, farming ore/herbs, etc) and none did dailies / farmed mobs (gold and vendor trash), ah prices would eventually drop to the point people would just vendor items rather than list them.<br /><br />The deflation noted is basically the monkey sinks outweighing the money sources.<br /><br />One theory is the money sinks are a bit too effective. (vanity mounts, flying mount training).<br /><br />Another way to look at it though is that in a perfectly working market, the gold per hour you can earn from any activity will eventually collapse to be at or below the amount you can earn from dailies. Granted, this ignores utility and difficulty. If glyphing and farming were both 100 gold/hour, most would farm deeming glyphing too much of a pita. If someone hates dailies, but likes looking for nodes, they may be fine with 80 gold / hour instead of 100 from dailes.<br /><br />IMO, the higher prices early in WoTLK can be attributed to the fact you end up with around 4k in gold just from leveling from 70-80 assuming you bought mininmal things. When people feel they have alot, the spend easier, not realizing the stuff they bought from the AH is supporting someone herb/mining for 1500 gold/hour. Or making glyphs for whatever it is Gevlon makes.<br /><br />-AanarAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-80210557273193980972009-05-18T18:26:00.000+02:002009-05-18T18:26:00.000+02:00burning your RL $ has very little effect (& i&...burning your RL $ has very little effect (& i'd wager almost none) on the value of RL $ as long as the Fed and the banksters keep the fractional reserve lending scam rolling. <br /><br />any value added by $'s increased scarcity (a result of the burning) will be swallowed up by massive daily increases in the gross volume fiat currency.<br /><br />and btw, the primary buyers/consumers of gambling / booze / drugs aint the poor.<br /><br />recently discovered your blog and i'm enjoying it. many thanks. (btw - you should have a podcast. consider it.)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13197656210895478313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-17734680408729651622009-05-18T18:18:00.000+02:002009-05-18T18:18:00.000+02:00@Tapir:
We can only truly compare apples to apples...@Tapir:<br />We can only truly compare apples to apples. I'm sure even in the poorest countries there are those who are "well off" and make half of what I do. It's all relative and that's the standpoint I spoke of. <br /><br />That being said, there is a great chance that those who are "well off" in these countries have absolutely no pity on their poor brethren. Why? Because they likely feel that if they did it, then anyone can. That was my point! If these "well off" and "rich" people from those poorer countries did not have this attitude as well, then you'd have people who were a lot better off as a whole. <br /><br />We tend to ascribe the poor and downtrodden as having better morals where money and caregiving are concerned than do those who are more fortunate and that is merely a romantic notion.<br /><br />In any case, I agree with Shawn. He made a good point for NOT being charitable whether he realized it or not. United Way and all these charitable organizations help themselves with your money far more than you may realize.<br /><br /> And for those of you who are complaining about not giving to the poor across the globe? Quit shopping at Wal-mart/Target/K-mart. The items you buy there come from sweat shops and keep these people destitute. If not, you have no right to criticize as you have helped these people into the position they are now. Same with your electronics whose customer service is handled in India. They have it there because it's cheap. But once again, your possessions win out. So you have no right to lecture anyone on not knowing anything about the world or being selfish jerks. Pointing out someone elses flaws doesn't erase your own.Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12338876497982816123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-36489708084016814172009-05-18T18:15:00.000+02:002009-05-18T18:15:00.000+02:00I am rather curious as how you would categorize in...I am rather curious as how you would categorize individuals with serious mental or physical health problems and how they fit into your reality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-33076053395733379712009-05-18T17:55:00.000+02:002009-05-18T17:55:00.000+02:00In fact, if you travel at all and broaden your hor...<I> In fact, if you travel at all and broaden your horizons you will find that most lazy and stupid people are NOT the poor people of the world but rather the rich ones that were born into a comfortable first world country. </I>If I'm reading into some of Gevlon's previous posts properly I would guess he is Hungarian (he mentioned in his post asking for a guild that he would want a guild to speak either Hungarian or English). This means that, unless he is younger than 20, he was born in communist Hungary. I would then assume that he has seen firsthand what a system which takes money from the productive and gives it to the M&S can do to a country over a 42 year period. Voluntarily giving your money to those who will not work is no better than having it taken from you by force. The assumption that rich people are lazy is false, The percentage of lazy rich people is <B>much</B> smaller than that of poor one's, the only way lazy people get rich is to inherit it, i.e. Paris Hilton. Eventually the idle rich will fritter away their wealth, distributing it through their own stupidity. It might happen over a few generations, but the dynasties who stay rich are the ones who keep their strong work ethic from generation to generation. They may <I>appear</I> to be lazy, but that is because the work they do is behind closed doors, all the media focuses on is their leisure activities, which are often extravagant (because they can afford it)thoumyvisionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07969046614894999384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-72094703837914435162009-05-18T17:30:00.000+02:002009-05-18T17:30:00.000+02:00The problem here is that everyone is making connec...The problem here is that everyone is making connections to the truly poor of the world, and comparing them to the poor M&S of WoW. Unlike the poor of the world, the M&S are born "equal" and can easily fund their adventures if they choose to. Even if you're an idiot, you can still farm and do dailies.<br /><br />The poor of the world, on the other hand, will always be with us. Most are poor because they are born into it, and few get the chances to improve, and fewer still make good use of those chances.<br /><br />The biggest challenge in changing the world of the poor is to break the cycle of evil governments that take advantage of their people. Ironically, it was the capitalist west that installed many of those governments, ever since the west went exploring.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05693940784136807143noreply@blogger.com