tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post8451690988358201795..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: MMO toxicity cannot be curbedGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-20640993758343540432017-08-06T13:37:26.135+02:002017-08-06T13:37:26.135+02:00You can remove the chat function, but retain a lis...You can remove the chat function, but retain a list of stock phrases required for gameplay + a few courtesy phrasesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-55810155614867499222017-08-04T17:07:46.589+02:002017-08-04T17:07:46.589+02:00Gevlon, actually we have one of your very old post...Gevlon, actually we have one of your very old posts as a proof - the one where you've found out that if you kill the 1st boss of Icecrown Citadel, you're among 15% (or so) best WoW players of the world.<br /><br />If 85% do not bother to even enter the raid, I guess they do not want work in their game. (They have enough work in real life.)souldrinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04763196121640763477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-49016800816270122542017-08-03T23:47:01.703+02:002017-08-03T23:47:01.703+02:00Refused to ban him when CSM brought it up in meeti...Refused to ban him when CSM brought it up in meetings. He was banned when Rippard made a huge scandal of it.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-62031143132257791842017-08-03T20:56:27.399+02:002017-08-03T20:56:27.399+02:00How did Falcon protect Erotica? How did Falcon protect Erotica? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-20115641797078581382017-08-03T15:34:46.212+02:002017-08-03T15:34:46.212+02:00@Esteban: yes, he is a poor darling. He and his fa...@Esteban: yes, he is a poor darling. He and his family probably suffered badly from liberal policies and he is too dumb to realize that his enemies are the liberals and turn at instead of the groups that the liberals like: sexual and racial minorities. <br /><br />Erotica 1 was exactly one guy. Not really the norm, even by EVE standards. After all, he got banned for his crap (despite Falcon protected him as long as he could).Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-1518447938726351842017-08-03T14:36:15.836+02:002017-08-03T14:36:15.836+02:00Going to have to support Anon's and Maxim'...Going to have to support Anon's and Maxim's comments here - the most unpleasant people know exactly what they're doing. <br /><br />The genuinely dim guy in the WoW battleground spamming varieties of "omg you guys suck" once the scoreboard falls behind, and throwing out a few slurs to spice it up, is not really the toxic sort. Everyone knows that he's just frustrated and poorly-raised and few people really take him to heart. He's like a bad smell that quickly dissipates.<br /><br />The guy running in circles in the corner of the battleground spouting racist and homophobic memes and alt-right conspiracy theories isn't a poor darling who just does not know better. He knows he's a troll, and he enjoys the power to make a handful of other people angry without consequences, both with his words and by helping his team lose.<br /><br />And then, further down on the scale, you've got people like Erotica 1.<br /><br />As usual, you underestimate the common man, both for good and for ill.<br />Estebannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-86442393423714219212017-08-03T14:32:00.640+02:002017-08-03T14:32:00.640+02:00You can see other player's characters in lobby...You can see other player's characters in lobby that looks like one of those "fashion streets". You can look at characters, their gear and see player's profile in Nintendo's "social network". I've seen that a lot of people choose gear by it's look, not stats. So it's some kind of socializing. But without direct communication between random players.vvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00431318231966753609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-91038792793271817782017-08-03T11:39:02.736+02:002017-08-03T11:39:02.736+02:00@vv: that's an extreme form of signaling that ...@vv: that's an extreme form of signaling that it's not a place for socializing.<br /><br />@souldrinker: have any study to back that claim up. Or are you just pushing the "social gaming" mantra that turned WoW from a rising star to stagnation and later decline?Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-19458873537022527112017-08-03T10:55:01.191+02:002017-08-03T10:55:01.191+02:00"Games must be designed in a way to make it c..."Games must be designed in a way to make it clear that there is work to be done together with people they don't have to like. Shut up, kill the dragon, go home with shiny!" - this would remove like 70% of MMO audience and maybe even kill WoW.<br /><br />So I guess, we better evolve toxic resistance, we'll need it.souldrinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04763196121640763477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-25413680627128399632017-08-03T10:29:43.450+02:002017-08-03T10:29:43.450+02:00Nintendo have found solution. They just removed al...Nintendo have found solution. They just removed almost all ways for players to communicate in game in Splatoon. No communication - no trolls.vvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00431318231966753609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-70528994694835170842017-08-03T09:18:04.947+02:002017-08-03T09:18:04.947+02:00While I fully agree with the second part, games sh...While I fully agree with the second part, games should indeed be presented as a fun activity that you do with strangers and not as a social place where you meet friends, I disagree with your statement that internet trolls are a myth. In various mmo, i've been in plenty guilds and in nearly every of them there were some people who were bragging and beeing proud of themselves for being trolls on forums ... They were perfectly fine inside the guild (with so called "friends"), skilled players in raid, but we could see that every day they would post bullshits and insults on forums, blogs, social medias, and they would link the posts in guild chats for their "friends" to enjoy. Yes they enjoy insulting strangers, saying bullshits ... when hidden behind their "nicknames" and explain this by saying that they don't know these people anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-27756580629901255812017-08-03T08:46:43.653+02:002017-08-03T08:46:43.653+02:00About 5% people i met in my life are natural troll...About 5% people i met in my life are natural trolls, who enjoy deconstructing everything they find "too serious" with humour of varying levels of execution. They are also some of the most vocal people i met, easily dominating any conversation that doesn't have proper moderation. About a third of them wouldn't object to being called trolls.<br />About half of them are also immensely socially adept, much more than i will ever be. Somehow, they manage to troll in a way that's socially acceptable and get immense benefits from it.<br /><br />So i guess i can't agree with the notion that there are no people who naturally enjoy trolling.<br /><br />i do agree that games could do a better job communicating game goals and intended tone to the players. The only game so far i have seen that actually managed it is the oft mentioned Dark Souls, which both limits player communication to a few simple gestures and quickly and readily punishes any and all lack of in-game competence, occasionally with a sort of morbid mechanical humour of its own.maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-90225782949034319152017-08-03T06:54:39.659+02:002017-08-03T06:54:39.659+02:00"Strangely, this mythical persona has no real..."Strangely, this mythical persona has no real world psychological description."<br /><br />There is a real world psychological description of people who show a "pervasive and persistent disregard for morals, social norms, and the rights and feelings of others"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-43555340866337201462017-08-03T04:59:20.023+02:002017-08-03T04:59:20.023+02:00"Simply speaking: no one ever presented a tro..."Simply speaking: no one ever presented a troll in real life."<br /><br />Of course trolls exist in real life as well, I even know one myself. The question is more why they're so much more prevalent in the online world.Hanura H'araschnoreply@blogger.com