tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post7334912957512592384..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: Do not play Albion Online (and suggest me a World game)Gevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-21094824885450333542017-04-24T15:43:17.327+02:002017-04-24T15:43:17.327+02:00@Anonymous: there is absolutely nothing unbalanced...@Anonymous: there is absolutely nothing unbalanced in capturing nullsec zones and exploiting it. There is everything wrong effectively capturing highsec zones and tax the trading going on by casual players who can't possibly fight back against a nullsec alliance.<br /><br />Also, even if highsec citadels were balanced, they still unbanned Lenny and rebanned only when threatened by lawsuit. Do you really think that they aren't in league with the next "Lenny"?<br /><br />@Kontalaa: Mortal Online has 847981 hours played since Sept 8. That's 4500 hours per day. http://www.mortalonline.com/statistics/<br /><br />Albion Online has 2.8M hours between Marc 13 Apr 9. That's 100000 hours per day. https://albiononline.com/en/news/galahad-infographic<br /><br />EVE Online has 620K hours per day.<br /><br />And MO is free to play, so God knows how many players are actually bots or clueless newbies trying out the game for an hour and quitting after first PvP death. This game is dead. Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-90404928506217095342017-04-23T23:00:09.033+02:002017-04-23T23:00:09.033+02:00Pandemic Horde isn't banking anywhere near tha...Pandemic Horde isn't banking anywhere near that because the only significant volume citadel markets get is from ranged buy orders, sell orders are still almost exclusively listed in Jita 4-4, as that's where people want to buy and store stuff. There is also a lot of competition and I can't remember a time when there wasn't a public 0% broker's fee market available, and as I said it only costs ~7.5b per month to put up your own public market, assuming it gets killed every three weeks.<br /><br />I don't see anything unbalanced about putting in the effort to build a huge corporation/alliance/coalition and then using your power to take over space, an absolutely massive number of man hours are required to build and maintain such an entity, or organise operations to enforce your will. If it was that easy then everyone would be able to do it, right? <br /><br />You keep making these outlandish statements, when you don't really have an idea about how things actually work, your statements are based on faulty assumptions and not the facts or reality of the situation. You can log in without a subscription now, so why don't you take a look, or use CREST to find out what's really happening, rather than spouting half-truths and conspiracy theories?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-24613766152211106282017-04-23T21:33:26.548+02:002017-04-23T21:33:26.548+02:00The whole Jita volume of trade is around 4000T/yea...The whole Jita volume of trade is around 4000T/year. 0.1% of that is 4T/year. Pandemic Horde is banking that, without a single minute of player worktime (unless someone sieges it, but then the hordlings will come for free).<br /><br />Somehow I find fighting against an enemy with 4T/year advantage unbalanced gameplay. But I must be wrong and I await for your glorious adventure of beating up PL/PH with your friends.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-43045195706773972192017-04-23T20:10:21.344+02:002017-04-23T20:10:21.344+02:00Beat them at what? Almost the entire time since th...Beat them at what? Almost the entire time since their introduction there has been a public 0% broker's fee market. It costs less than 6b for an Azbel with market and fuel for a month, and they can only be killed every 3 weeks. If the only option was Pandemic Horde's market (0.1% tax), then you'd only need to buy 60b of items through buy orders using your own private market to break even versus paying their 0.1% broker's fee. Sales are still almost entirely done in the NPC stations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-13234479904204435832017-04-23T18:02:44.766+02:002017-04-23T18:02:44.766+02:00I had some success in EVE, yes, against the clear ...I had some success in EVE, yes, against the clear will of the devs. But they - probably because of that - made sure it won't happen again. No one can beat the Perimiter Citadels.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-16963416366037336052017-04-23T17:46:52.370+02:002017-04-23T17:46:52.370+02:00Why do you think that success only depends on conn...Why do you think that success only depends on connections to the devs, weren't you successful when you played with them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-61447688463418561422017-04-23T07:43:16.603+02:002017-04-23T07:43:16.603+02:00@Anon: no, and I cannot have. Just like I can'...@Anon: no, and I cannot have. Just like I can't prove that the bank manager who left the safe open and the alarm offline was cooperating with the robbers. Maybe he was just a complete retard. But:<br />- since there are industry standards how to do these things and they kept doing the opposite after clearly warned, I go with corrupt<br />- I won't invest hundreds of hours of my life into a game managed by innocent retardsGevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-85271218613885001802017-04-22T23:50:29.612+02:002017-04-22T23:50:29.612+02:00Do you have any actual evidence of this corruption...Do you have any actual evidence of this corruption though?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-74557162036322152942017-04-22T23:24:55.225+02:002017-04-22T23:24:55.225+02:00"What about going back to EVE now that the ca..."What about going back to EVE now that the casinos are gone and the high sec Keepstar market seems very likely?"<br /><br />I meant very unlikely of course, since the structures are so cheap even one person using them to save on paying 0.1% broker's fees through them for 2-3 weeks is enough to offset the cost of the structure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-61764726367599080602017-04-22T23:24:40.354+02:002017-04-22T23:24:40.354+02:00Jesus, these "go back to EVE" people.
EV...Jesus, these "go back to EVE" people.<br />EVE is still a completely corrupted system where success only depends on connection to the devs. Albion Online with it's gold speculation is a heaven of fairness compared to that crap. No way in hell I go anywhere near that.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-82315775699431402552017-04-22T23:03:52.524+02:002017-04-22T23:03:52.524+02:00What about going back to EVE now that the casinos ...What about going back to EVE now that the casinos are gone and the high sec Keepstar market seems very likely? Looking at https://trade.eve-mogul.com/leaderboards Rita Jita seems to be making a lot of ISK, and I heard is feeling lonely at the lack of competition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-63973164335326784212017-04-22T19:44:16.125+02:002017-04-22T19:44:16.125+02:00@Gevlon
I am not interested in just one specific s...@Gevlon<br />I am not interested in just one specific subsystem.<br />Mastering the loot-gathering in something like Diablo is boring.<br />However, if you can them plug it into all the other systems of the vast world and see how progress in this one narrow field affects the rest, then it gets interesting.<br /><br />For that, however, you require the world.<br /><br />As for money shaping the world - yeah, they do, when done well. Other mechanics, however, do that to a significant extent as well. It can be argued to an extent that money is the only mechanic so far that we have at least some success transferring from hands of developers to hands of players. However, there are already plenty of games that feature weird kinds of economy and non-monetary core trading mechanics. F/ex trading card ecosystems, heavily influenced by the tactics players come up with.<br /><br />Heck, the aforementioned Diablo series had an excellent trading scene in Diablo 2, which thrived despite rampant RMT and duping, but never quite got there in Diablo 3, despite the latter having a far superior economical realisation. All because the other mechanics were lacking.maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-67772589774938310732017-04-22T14:40:25.039+02:002017-04-22T14:40:25.039+02:00Does "mortal online" qualify?
Open worl...Does "mortal online" qualify?<br /><br />Open world, full loot PvP, free market, etc.<br /><br />I tried it some time ago as alternative to eve and I think it comes pretty close.Kontalaahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11168359860285467501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-58965567431812740222017-04-22T13:26:53.118+02:002017-04-22T13:26:53.118+02:00Hey Gevlon.
I nominate Project: Gorgon.Hey Gevlon. <br /><br />I nominate Project: Gorgon.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06335392296481548381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-81258896018123450522017-04-22T07:45:00.842+02:002017-04-22T07:45:00.842+02:00@Anon: nothing. This is why I left EVE when they a...@Anon: nothing. This is why I left EVE when they announced the New Jita citadels where the "right" people trade PLEX with low taxes. Previously the taxes somewhat limited speculation.<br /><br />@Druur: a "game balancing issue" that causes a 10 pages threadnought and could be fixed by a few clicks but not fixed is a purposeful loophole for exploiting.<br /><br />I've never speculated in EVE. I did arbitrage and transporting and multibox-mining missions. Speculation is when you buy something, hold it because you expect the price will go up and sell it when it does.<br /><br />The only way to consequently make good guesses on the gold market is insider info about player spending schedules, premium expiration schedules and upcoming developer central bank interventions. So the whole gold speculation is pointless without complicit devs.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-19275200973746802052017-04-22T04:00:26.471+02:002017-04-22T04:00:26.471+02:00@Gevlon
"no one can prove RMT without actual...@Gevlon<br /><br />"no one can prove RMT without actually catching them during the act."<br /><br />While technically true, it is nonetheless possible to gather circumstantial evidence - like just Nosygamer did for EVE. You didn't do that; instead you are just speculating.<br /><br />"My point is that this "feature" allow so bizarre income that can't be spent reasonably in-game."<br /><br />So? That sounds more like a game balancing issue to me. And some people just like to see their wallet increase. There are people in EVE who have more ISK than they can reasonably spend in a decade.<br /><br />"Also, blindly speculating likely causes losses, so this is a corruption-only feature, only those with insider info can profitably speculate."<br /><br />By that logic, you're an RMTer as well. You made Billions speculating on the EVE market, because that's what the market is. You may not see it this way anymore, but trading is speculating that the market goes your way - it's just a kind of more educated speculating.<br /><br />You are presenting no shred of actual evidence that Albion's creators are complicit in a RMT ring, apart from "Waaah! They make more Gold than I am!"Druur Monakhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07299435488090977357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-35232459629895098982017-04-22T02:11:34.947+02:002017-04-22T02:11:34.947+02:00Could you please explain what makes gold in albion...Could you please explain what makes gold in albion any different from PLEX in EVE? They are essentially the same from what I can tell (although one plex can be split into 2500 pieces in albion) but you don't have a Don't play EVE page because of gold/plex speculation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-60370295150119958842017-04-22T01:02:09.176+02:002017-04-22T01:02:09.176+02:00https://www.ashesofcreation.com/node-series-part-2...https://www.ashesofcreation.com/node-series-part-2-metropolis/<br /><br />Seems to be awesome, but laaate release.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-81717391160557555432017-04-21T19:39:20.323+02:002017-04-21T19:39:20.323+02:00Yeah.. I am also looking for such an Game.
I woul...Yeah.. I am also looking for such an Game.<br /><br />I would suggest "Ashes of Creation", it seems pretty interesting. <br />However, they even haven´t started the Alpha Phase and the Pre-Alpha will begin mabybe around End 2017/Begin 2018. So it can take two years util it´s release. meh<br /><br />Maybe Pantheon, but there is not really much information about that.<br /><br />Other than that... I am also looking forward to Camelot Unchained.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-22289451122234451222017-04-21T19:03:03.066+02:002017-04-21T19:03:03.066+02:00I too am looking forward to Naval Action being rel...I too am looking forward to Naval Action being released. It looks fantastic. Any idea what sort of timescale we may be looking at for release, Looch?Dàchénghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02994982502333811797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-65686121709622539892017-04-21T18:27:40.964+02:002017-04-21T18:27:40.964+02:00Wow. Harsh comments today. Welp, gotta have thick ...Wow. Harsh comments today. Welp, gotta have thick skin if you're going to play in THIS pool.<br /><br />Count me in on the side that thinks your needs are not really doable. I can appreciate being competitive? But that can't be everything. I'm quite competitive... and I play WoW. I understand that I'll never be a "Mythic Raider", not because I can't do that, but because I won't do that. The "reward" (Beating Mythic raids)for doing that exceeds the cost (Working with massively competitive people.) "Winning" for me means doing the best I can in the context of the "league" I choose to play in. And that often means having a tiny bit of compassion for people that just aren't that good at a game. In the grand scheme of things, my life will not be improved if the only difference is I beat the "Nighthold" dungeon on Mythic rather than Normal. But if I have to kick people to the curb to go the Mythic route, I feel I would have lost an eighth. I'm competitive, but not THAT competitive.<br /><br />Competition is damaging WoW more than you can imagine, and in all the bad ways that a game based on competition does, but without the upside of "winning" the competition. Even when they add quality of life features, like the multi tag system, there is a competition to it... you don't get to tag with the opposite faction. So if there are Horde tagging everything, and you're Alliance, whelp, you have to wait for them to be done. It's frustrating and has no upside to anyone except people who think they're "beating" you by tagging something first.<br /><br />The problem with a "World" in your context (Building something "beats" someone else, causing them to fall behind.) is that the ability to "change the world" benefits only a small minority in it, specifically the minority able to exact the change. So everyone is working towards changing the world in ways then benefit their group at the expense of all others. This is a force of entropy, not one of creation.<br /><br />And even THAT is only if everyone was working towards building something. Some people are anarchists and just want to burn the world.<br /> Smokemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09019178942001694802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-82639975269563397592017-04-21T18:07:29.962+02:002017-04-21T18:07:29.962+02:00@Maxim: if you are interested in one specific sub-...@Maxim: if you are interested in one specific sub-system, there are single player games for that. An MMO is a World that you want to shape and the best way is always money. "Who controls the spice controls the universe" <br /><br />Sure, one can give up shaping the World and be irrelevant, but why would someone choose to be irrelevant even in a simulated World.<br /><br />@Druur: no one can prove RMT without actually catching them during the act. My point is that this "feature" allow so bizarre income that can't be spent reasonably in-game. Also, blindly speculating likely causes losses, so this is a corruption-only feature, only those with insider info can profitably speculate.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-70174048556378844282017-04-21T16:41:28.530+02:002017-04-21T16:41:28.530+02:00There are few games I am looking for ... unfortuna...There are few games I am looking for ... unfortunately they seems to be a bit far from release. To be honest I don't see any pre-release game which is up to the mark by miles. <br /><br />1_ Naval Action _ www.navalaction.com I love the era and naval history so it is a must watch for me. Game mechanics are there, it is world, pvp, player economics etc. and they are working pretty well. Graphic is stunning - UI is still WIP.<br />Downside is devs are a small independent team ... Pro is they are very good at what they are doing. No kickstarter campaign but they are on steam. I am afraid it will be a niche game. <br /><br />2_ Ashes of Creation _ looks very promising and I like the team behind. https://www.ashesofcreation.com unfortunately it is pretty far from release. They are starting their kickstarter campaign 1st of May. <br /><br />I too stopped playing Albion Online, basically due to the idiotic devs ... the sooner they pop their head out of their own asshole the better. Loochnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-25046803847538461692017-04-21T15:25:38.022+02:002017-04-21T15:25:38.022+02:00About your permanent Albion page - maybe I'm j...About your permanent Albion page - maybe I'm just tired, but I think it needs work Some immediate points are:<br /><br /> - It needs a better explanation of how the currencies in Albion work. Not everybody has a background in Albion, or for that matter, WoW (where the concept of 'gold' originated (I know I don't))<br /> - The picture needs explanation, in particular what the vertical of the graph means. I don't think it's USD or any other RL currency.<br /> - You talk about 'RMT', but you aren't proving it. 'RMT' is understood as players making RL money usable for things other than game items (like going to a movie), outside of what the game devs want it to be used for. Sure, <i>technically</i>, making a Gold profit in order to pay for game time is gaining RL value - but that is a very specific value which the game devs intended you to have, so it doesn't fall under the 'RMT' umbrella.<br /><br />Oh, and I think what @Maxim was trying say with #1 is: You're living in a dream world, Ne... I mean: Gevlon.Druur Monakhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07299435488090977357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-52392500775029825662017-04-21T13:22:50.453+02:002017-04-21T13:22:50.453+02:00@Gevlon
Sure, you may have been a small thorn in ...@Gevlon<br /><br />Sure, you may have been a small thorn in the Imperium's side.<br />But if you really want to look at the reality of it.<br /><br />You simply showed some one else where the key was.<br />Lenny, not you, found a way to actually motivate people to invade Imperium space.<br />He simply took his way of earning ISK, and 'part' of your methodology and expanded it.<br /><br />In retrospect I would actually have to say he was more grounded in EvE politics and meta-gaming than you were. Because he actually succeeded where you did not.<br />And i must attribute that to your unwillingness to group with others in a public and visible way. In such type of games, you can not play solo.<br />You did, Goons remained where they were up to the point you quit.<br />Lenny however did not play solo, and he took what you started "after" you quit and made it a reality.<br />Which saying he tried to steal your credits....he did not, you started the ball rolling but he took the torch you dropped and ran with it, the fact Goons left the north can attributed all to him because in essence he is the one whom actually put together the winning package and implementation for doing so, not you. You only shined light on the economical how of what was needed as resources.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com