tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post6454586132992030098..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: The fun, the l33t and the retardGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-43367932335539716952010-08-19T03:08:24.960+02:002010-08-19T03:08:24.960+02:00"@Anonymous: you are right that the article s..."@Anonymous: you are right that the article says that "laughter is caused by low social status". But why would anyone feel low social status in WoW?<br /><br />Because he is a n00b! WoW has its own social ladder with the n00bs on the bottom. So the fun guy is a n00b who will wipe us (or he fears so)."<br /><br />Think about why you decided to try making an asocial guild in the first place. If people were evaluated purely on game performance, wouldn't the entire effort be superfluous?<br /><br />Maybe they're a good player but a crappy conversationalist. Maybe they have low social status in real life and that mentality carries over into the game. Some people view raid/guild leaders or officers as "the boss" while some see them as peers, something that varies from guild to guild.<br /><br />PUGs often evaluate you on gear score rather than performance, then massively inflate the gear requirements because performance is only loosely correlated with gear despite being more important. Isn't this a big part of the Undergeared project, to undermine the obsession with gear players are surrounded by?<br /><br />The difficulty of content is also in fair part due to the people you run with. My first VoA tanking was a pug and I thought it was this massive leap in difficulty from heroics after we wiped twice, maybe I needed better gear or to chain my cooldowns better or something? It turned out the shaman and druid healers had both let earthshield and HoTs fall off of me so I had zero healing for five seconds and no significant healing for ten despite being the main tank that'd already soaked a meteor fist. A guildmate explained what happened and doing the fight later with another group it turned out to be trivial. H-HoR is nerve wracking to tank without raid gear because every LFD dps expects to be carried through, but the ones that actually use CC and focus fire make the place fairly simple. It's possible to underestimate your performance while playing with crappy players as much as it is to overestimate your performance when getting carried. The people used to being carried tend to be the worst since they assume they're already perfect and don't need to improve.<br /><br />I'm sort of surprised to see you disparage the "n00bs" since one of your selling points on The PuG was that competent players would be accepted as long as they paid a gold penalty for wipes. Didn't you say specifically that players aren't to be biased against as long as they meet those terms? Or that they wouldn't be shuffled off into a Team A, Team B situation where they'd never get a chance at progression? And that it was an escape from being measured purely by gearscore? What about that paladin you lauded a few posts back as someone you would take into ICC, even though he clearly didn't have that confidence himself given his response in the comments? Does that mark him as "a n00b that will wipe us" even though your evaluation was that he would be totally fine? More likely he's underestimating himself and overestimating the requirements for ICC in thinking he's going to be a burden that has to be carried.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-65561616149428373612010-08-19T01:46:48.062+02:002010-08-19T01:46:48.062+02:00@ last Anonymous:
I would never judge a financial...@ last Anonymous:<br /><br />I would never judge a financial advisor on the way he dresses. For example - suit and tie? Suit, tie and vest? Suit, no tie, unbuttoned top button? There are a number of dress codes that are suitable. Perhaps if he was wearing rags, I'd ignore him, but that's a question of professionalism and his respect for the job (because, you know, WoW is srs bzness).<br /><br />In terms of judging someone in PvP arena, I look at class, then HP then mana. I don't really look at the name unless it's the same class combo as a previous match that day, to check to see if it's the same team.<br /><br />At the 2500+ level, I would imagine that you'd take all contenders seriously. It's hard to imagine that a 'rofleet' name would make anyone feel more at ease, when they know that any team they face is 2500+ due to match-ups.Squishalothttp://www.wowhead.com/user=Squishalotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-18237771385042045202010-08-18T17:51:07.347+02:002010-08-18T17:51:07.347+02:00I largely agree with your stereotypes, however it ...I largely agree with your stereotypes, however it should be remembered that some of the "emotion" abbreviations are (almost) as old as the Internet itself, and often amends the obvious lack of body language, facial expressions, voice tone and other very important features of real life conversation - even something as obvious as laughter.<br /><br />Especially things like irony, sarcasm and so on are easy to misunderstand in pure-text communication, and for that reason it was actually good netiquette to add emoticons like ":-)" and the like if using irony back in the USENET days. So a lot of "older people" (I'm 28, guess that's "old" within most MMO's) use these smileys, not as leet speech, but simply as good netiquette. The same goes for the older expressions like "lol" etc.<br /><br />And then you've got the mildly jokingly use of the kid-variety of those expressions. I sometimes use the term "lulz" as a guild in-joke, but I do of course not litter my speech with those kinds of terms. And you will absolutely not find me trying to cheer people up that way after wipefests...<br /><br />So, as Squishalot says, the problem with sterotyping is that they never fully apply to circumstances. Your stereotypes do however fit a lot of people, and those people annoy me severely.Biephttp://cursedgnome.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-87698263496227131252010-08-18T17:12:03.823+02:002010-08-18T17:12:03.823+02:00@Olga: While that is true, such comparison is simi...@Olga: While that is true, such comparison is similar to clothing in real life. You are more inclined to consider a financial advice from someone that dresses well, even if that has no direct correlation to the knowledge of economics, or indeed anything else beside dressing etiquette. In PvP where you can't communicate with your opponent, you will need to gauge him by some few cues (Class, race, HP, Mana and Buffs in PvP). Name can be one, even if unconsciously.<br /><br />Granted, the difference is minimal, maybe 1%, and then probably only on the beginning of the match. But in a highly competitive ambient that may mean the match, with a slightly less aware opponent employing less careful tactics. DotA was excellent for that, since much of the match is decided on the early game, since minimal advantages, are decisive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-85693202054654981692010-08-18T16:10:16.547+02:002010-08-18T16:10:16.547+02:00@ Aljabra: "It's even in the rules, you k...@ Aljabra: <i>"It's even in the rules, you know. Every raider must read up on the expected fights, watch videos, and ask someone who know the fight, if he still don't understand something."</i><br /><br />I'm just going to address this one point, since it's midnight here and I need to sleep. Let me refer you back to the rules:<br /><br />http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/2010/06/pug.html<br /><br />Perhaps Gevlon's use of English is making it difficult for me to understand, or that EU readers interpret it differently, but I see nothing there about skill requirements other than:<br /><br />"<i>You get your chance, but if you can't do your job (due to low gear, inexperience or simply being dumb) you can be removed.<br />...<br />Also the RL can remove anyone who has no clue about the fight, as you are expected to read up. There is room for error but not for being clueless.</i>"<br /><br />You are expected to know basic knowledge of what you need to know for specific fight mechanics, and nothing more. That's not going to stop a mage from not knowing why he's using AM instead of ABarr if MB doesn't proc. Or when to use his cooldowns. Or what addons he can use to combat his latency. Or how to adjust his rotation to deal with different circumstances.<br /><br />There are no official lines of communication to get all bits of important information. In an office, you're expected to know office policy, sure. But reading up on that isn't going to show you how to do your work more efficiently, or how to present your documents in a manner acceptable to your particular manager.<br /><br />By limiting yourself to 'required' communications, you're not optimising your performance. It'd be like limiting your research to the official site, and not browsing forums like EJ, Maintankadin, Wowhead etc. Or even just reading the staff articles at those sites, and not reading the comments. You're missing out on potentially useful knowledge, just because you can't be bothered putting up with the chaff to get there.Squishalothttp://www.wowhead.com/user=Squishalotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-68314564327598096422010-08-18T13:45:27.774+02:002010-08-18T13:45:27.774+02:00@last Anonymous
It was the first and the sole purp...@last Anonymous<br />It was the first and the sole purpose of argot, to organise conversations in which only members of some group could participate, cause other simply doesn't understand. Slangs now can serve a similar purpose. Though it corresponds to the idea of using slang to be boosted - by talking on group's language you express yourself as a member of a group and could benefit from it. But you can not be accepted in such group without using slang, so even if you want to interact fairly and you don't intent to get boosted, you still need to talk the same language as the group speaks.Leehohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07438956683794597730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-74478657858614745362010-08-18T13:23:44.798+02:002010-08-18T13:23:44.798+02:00I don't agree with misleading opponents argume...I don't agree with misleading opponents argument. I've seen good players that can't write in proper language, though it's their native language. I've seen good players that consider retarded jokes fun and use them often. You don't need to be an intelligent person to play good and have no intent to abuse others with boosting, you just need to be smart and have playing skills. You know, being intelligent and being smart is two different things (at least i hope I've picked right words to express my thought). <br />Besides, language is social thing. You learn how to express different things by how people react. So in different cultures there will be different ways to express the same things. For example, you can easily determine that person is Russian if he use a lot of smiles in his typing. People that use Internet from his day one often type :) instead of full points and commas. It was so common back then that if you will not use smiles chatting in Russian, person you are talking to will think that you are feeling bad or angry with him. So when i chat in English i need to keep in mind that i need to omit smiles as much as i can, and still i fail and chat with a lot of them. The same may go for l33t speak usage, similar typing can express different things depending on culture person belongs. Again, getting back to Russian culture, typing "l33t" (making mistakes in every word for purpose, following some rules in doing them) was a kind of subculture thing. It was not used for creating fun atmosphere, it was a language game. And to succeed in this game you needed to be really good in Russian, that's why it was mostly students' game, and now it stays as philologists' game. <br />So i still think that there is a lot of depth in l33t speak usage. Causes, purposes and outcome here may vary a lot.Leehohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07438956683794597730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-36540116174169154032010-08-18T11:19:28.415+02:002010-08-18T11:19:28.415+02:00This post fails, we create slang to distinguish ou...This post fails, we create slang to distinguish our own kind from others not to look better, if i talk about dps, cs ,cc etc and people reply accordingly i know that they are in the material and not some random noob who thinks he has to state his oppinion.<br /><br />I dont use the slang to look better, if i would need that i would just duel you. (Although that proves not much unless we are same class and even then ping can make or brake a round)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-32205005404673665552010-08-18T11:06:09.793+02:002010-08-18T11:06:09.793+02:00@Squishalot
"The thing is, work communication...@Squishalot<br /><i>"The thing is, work communication comes along with social communication."</i><br />The real thing is that it don't have to. You can have zero social communications and still exchange all the information you need to work. In fact it can be really annoying when you come to someone to do a job, and you need him to tell you few simple thing, and end up listening about whole bunch of info on his dog health or something like that - because he really think you just can't fix his computer without this data (but easily can go on without knowing that electricity is off for a week already). So you spend a LOT of your time listening for him and trying to fish out something, that can really relate to the problem at hand. You can eventually hear something that matters, but usially it will take more time, than all the work. Many times more.<br />Most unpleasant in this is if you'll refuse to listen, you'll be proclaimed anti-social and rude.<br /><br /><i>The WoW equivalent is when people laugh and joke about some aspect of a fight, and someone is prompted to provide some real information about said fight, that others might not have known about.</i><br />Usially, way more effective way is to let everyone say what they can remember, formulate a strategy, and, if it don't work, analyze, what's gone wrong (and that's a perfect place to someone to remember some aspect). No jokes are needed for that.<br /><br />"there is no official means of filtering *all* important information to members"<br />In fact, there is. It's even in the rules, you know. Every raider <b>must</b> read up on the expected fights, watch videos, and ask someone who know the fight, if he still don't understand something. So coming to the raid you can expect, that at least everyone knows the basics, and would ask if something is unclear.<br />In more social guilds asking usially consdidered <br /> "bad" behaviour, people afraid to ask. Never seen any trouble with it within The PuG - after all, lack of knowledge here is quite fast turns to quite real money loss, not some "they think I'm stupid and won't like me" social nonsence.<br /><br /><i>As a result, unless your raiders are all overflowing with knowledge already, they stand to learn something from idle chatter.</i><br />The main idea is that everyone, who want to have knowledge, can get it. And if you don't want to get knowledge about the raid you are in, why the hell will you be there?<br /><br /><i>"I thought it was obvious given my earlier comment that people who obtain social knowledge also obtain useful work knowledge. There are channels to get useful information at work. There are also other channels, where useful information is drowned by the social chatter, but provides information that you wouldn't get otherwise."</i><br />It was, yes. And I thought my reply stated, that if you need such a mud filter to get usefull knowledge, and you can't get it otherwise, then it means that something is obviously already broken and effectivness dropped considerably.Aljabranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-21605617409822392902010-08-18T09:10:17.217+02:002010-08-18T09:10:17.217+02:00@ Aljabra: "I guess, you mixing a social comm...@ Aljabra: <i>"I guess, you mixing a social communication and communication, needed to do a job done."</i><br /><br />Yes and no. The thing is, work communication comes along with social communication. In the workplace, it's represented by people talking about fairly random things, which jog a reminder about a work-related thing that they then share with the group.<br /><br />The WoW equivalent is when people laugh and joke about some aspect of a fight, and someone is prompted to provide some real information about said fight, that others might not have known about.<br /><br />Especially in a PuG style environment, there is no official means of filtering *all* important information to members (as there would be in a properly organised office, as you describe). Gevlon isn't going to sit there and describe all the fight mechanics, all the tips and tricks to maximise DPS / healing strategies / tanking skills each fight, when a new person comes in.<br /><br />As a result, unless your raiders are all overflowing with knowledge already, they stand to learn something from idle chatter.<br /><br />Regarding useful knowledge, I thought it was obvious given my earlier comment that people who obtain social knowledge also obtain useful work knowledge. There are channels to get useful information at work. There are also other channels, where useful information is drowned by the social chatter, but provides information that you wouldn't get otherwise.Squishalothttp://www.wowhead.com/user=Squishalotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-28401429392639662172010-08-18T08:08:00.395+02:002010-08-18T08:08:00.395+02:00@Squishalot
"The anti-social ones perform po...@Squishalot <br /><i>"The anti-social ones perform poorly because they don't communicate."</i><br />I guess, you mixing a social communication and communication, needed to do a job done. You can perform as good as you want without the first (unless your group consist mostly of hopeless socials, that can't use a screwdriver without an exessive chat involved), but you need second. If some person avoid both, then it can mean one of two things - he's stupid, or usefull information is hopelessly drowned in the sea of social chat, and that, in turn, mean, that perfomance of the group is already extremely low, as most of the energy is diverted in social traffic. <br />In an office, the person with most <b>useful</b> information has a best potential to benefit to a company, not just some social information trash bin. And in properly organised company usefull information finds person, who need to know it, without any need of filtering random idle gossip. <br />So the person you describe wll be fairly successful in a company of socials, but the company itself will use much more effort, than needed to do something.Aljabranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-22062126710972318892010-08-18T06:31:55.391+02:002010-08-18T06:31:55.391+02:00@Anonymous: you are right that the article says th...@Anonymous: you are right that the article says that "laughter is caused by low social status". But why would anyone feel low social status in WoW?<br /><br />Because he is a n00b! WoW has its own social ladder with the n00bs on the bottom. So the fun guy is a n00b who will wipe us (or he fears so).<br /><br /><br />@Other Anonymous: you most probably right. The retarded names of PvP players is to mislead the opponent, making him believe he is fighting with dumb kiddies.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-4576672286614308972010-08-18T04:15:04.421+02:002010-08-18T04:15:04.421+02:00@ Aljabra: "In my experience in my previous g...@ Aljabra: <i>"In my experience in my previous guild, sometimes difference between wipe and kill was simple "shut up, everyone!" cry of the raid leader before the pull."</i><br /><br />Implying that they were busy being social before said cry. People are adaptive. The social ones can shut up and get their head down as and when necessary. And those who can't can get fired accordingly and replaced with someone who can do the work.<br /><br />I actually find that there are two types of people in the office who are poor performers - the overly social ones, and the completely anti-social ones. The overly social ones perform poorly for the reason you describe, yes.<br /><br />The anti-social ones perform poorly because they don't communicate. They don't consider that other people may not have the same information as they do. Or vice versa - they don't participate in the office gossip mill, and so don't hear about upcoming events that haven't officially been announced.<br /><br />In an office, the person with the most information has the highest potential benefit to the company. The anti-social worker locked in his office has less information than the social worker who is listening, talking and absorbing some useless information, but also gaining and spreading useful information also.<br /><br />In my current office, the best performer also happens to be the biggest office gossip. She works hard, plays hard. Said people can and do exist.<br /><br />@ anyone who thinks stupid name = stupid player:<br /><br />As someone noted, most top ranked arena teams / players are 'stupid', by your definition. But in any event, even if there is a correlation between playing ability and name, the PuG isn't about selecting the best players. It's about taking anyone who wants to come along, provided that they don't clutter raidchat / guildchat with crap. A person's name has very little indication of whether they are capable of doing that. Especially given how subjective 'stupid' naming is.Squishalothttp://www.wowhead.com/user=Squishalotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-25372575271022526772010-08-18T03:08:46.185+02:002010-08-18T03:08:46.185+02:00Anonymous said: "Gevlon, I almost universally...Anonymous said: "Gevlon, I almost universally agree with what you write, but you're off base here." etc...<br /><br />Michael explained the use of emoticons and internet abbreviations to emphasize meaning.<br /><br />Both are right. In defense of your point you are broadening the use of silly/stupid names to the use of foremetioned abbreviations in chat. <br />This is not the point. <br />I, like Anonymous and a lot of others obviously, agree that not accepting 'rofldots' into The Pug just because of his name was the right thing to do. But this post is completely irrelevant to that point.<br />Use of chat abbreviations and emoticons has actual value to convey things that would otherwise take 5-20 more words.<br /><br />On in-guild chat, Saevi gave the example of seeing 'Pilot of the Exodar' which, if you happen to know anything about WOW lore, is a quite intelligent joke. Now if somebody would have shared this in The Pug guild chat you would get some 'lol's. At least I would hope so, otherwise you'd be with a bunch of depressed antisocial players.<br /> <br />Asocial only goes so far. At some point you reach antisocial, and you're getting pretty close at the moment.Mirydonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-45044136199118635632010-08-18T02:45:16.902+02:002010-08-18T02:45:16.902+02:00If the rofldots character had responded differentl...If the rofldots character had responded differently in your chat I would have proposed a fourth class of person who uses such language: <i>The Intelligent Satirist</i>. So far I see little evidence that such a person exists.Flexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-58224346374906135902010-08-18T02:40:33.961+02:002010-08-18T02:40:33.961+02:00I have been in 4 guilds.
Three were serious, an...I have been in 4 guilds. <br /><br />Three were serious, analytical players that had specific guild rules and were determined to progress. They NEVER did (never got passed Hodir in Uld-25).<br /><br />Then I joined a guild of juvenile kiddies who would make Lady Gaga jokes and lol nigger faaaaag" comments with amazing frequency. Steamrolled 25-man ICC hard modes. Now 10/12 HM... but they don't even try the last two. They just say "fuck it, not trying", log off and play other games. They're just on alts anyway.<br /><br />Worst guild I've ever been in... and yet we 1-shotted HM Putricide the moment he was available. I am utterly amazed how such juvenile social kiddies can be so good (and not caring too much), while other "serious" guilds can't even handle HM Blood Princes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-75492665244546764652010-08-18T01:18:25.995+02:002010-08-18T01:18:25.995+02:00I just wish grammar police were perfect.I just wish grammar police were perfect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-55461301160400553922010-08-18T00:36:35.378+02:002010-08-18T00:36:35.378+02:00Man, I very much wish there was a clone of your gu...Man, I very much wish there was a clone of your guild here in the U.S.<br /><br />I've been in two guilds my entire "career" in this game for so many of the reasons you list.<br /><br />I'd rather play alone than group with these people.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11114861132724079142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-17045073763675170922010-08-17T23:08:39.614+02:002010-08-17T23:08:39.614+02:00"Scientific article added to the text to supp..."Scientific article added to the text to support the "fun guy" part.<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/13/science/13tier.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1"<br /><br />That really doesn't support the idea that the person throwing lol around is a leech or that they're doing it in an environment that's inherently unfun, though. <br /><br />It says that people are more inclined to laugh at something based on relative social standing, so it would be natural to start lol-ing at anything said by a GM or raid leader or as a new member to a group. Since the person still laughs when the boss telling the joke isn't present, implying any personal gain or the current environment isn't likely to be a cause.<br /><br />About the only thing you have to go on here is that it evolutionarily comes from making a more friendly environment, but you're being misleading as to the trigger for that behavior, which the article says is something different. Science is about measuring cause and effect, you can't just take the effect, rewrite the cause based on your own speculation, then claim the science supports you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-20053239436418620172010-08-17T22:24:35.956+02:002010-08-17T22:24:35.956+02:00@Olga
PvP mentality is quite different from PvE m...@Olga<br /><br />PvP mentality is quite different from PvE mentality. Indeed, in PvP a retarded name is helpful, since an opposing player will have lower expectations against "Lolgolass", "Icritudie" or "Arthasdkrox" than some bland, meaningless name.<br /><br />While I only have anedoctal evidence of that (Me and my team had 2 different account sets in DotA, one normal and another reatrded, and always had an easier time with the retarded names against similar, or even the same opponents), I'm pretty sure that is the case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-83659468251888126942010-08-17T22:15:32.040+02:002010-08-17T22:15:32.040+02:00It's funny that you mention "l33t" g...It's funny that you mention "l33t" grammarians because that shit exists to a large extent in the real world as well. I once worked (briefly) at Avanade where they prided themselves of being a "company of acronyms." They purposely used bizarre words and phrases to describe commonplace events so that nobody outside of the club (e.g., their customers) knew what they were talking about. Scientology, for its part, does exactly the same thing; they go as far as to create their own words like enturbulate. It's an easy way to identify and exclude outsiders but your analysis is accurate: fuck 'em. Let's have nothing to do with these types, in game or out.Techttp://youtube.com/TecPontificatesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-5020231307188749932010-08-17T22:08:47.279+02:002010-08-17T22:08:47.279+02:00"But we are a raiding guild. The only stimuli..."But we are a raiding guild. The only stimuli I want from you is a dead boss."<br /><br />It's just possible that herein lies the reason that your projects don't have much staying power.<br /><br />Even the most hardcore of hardcore raiders wants to have a bit of fun and connection with his guild.Bristalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11849907713604626977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-62268750370666267602010-08-17T21:29:40.153+02:002010-08-17T21:29:40.153+02:00I find it interesting, because in Undergeared I ha...I find it interesting, because in Undergeared I have to really suppress myself from not acting the way I would usually act, which is quite cheerful, with the occasional lol mixed in if I am having fun. <br /><br />I do that in the 'social downtime' of running back from wipes and what have you, not during the encounter of course. Yet, I am pretty sure I am not one of the people you'd actively want to exclude from your surroundings.Chopsuinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-89600943125085018212010-08-17T18:51:33.577+02:002010-08-17T18:51:33.577+02:00Have you seen arena rosters on armory or arenajunk...Have you seen arena rosters on armory or arenajunkies? I'd say that like 50% of arena teams' and players' names are l33t in one way or another, and yet there couldn't be any boosting involved on 2500+, i believe. How will you explain that? <br />To be honest, i think that you need a deep knowledge and understanding of a language to determine what is retarded joke and what is genius joke or pasticcio.<br />I don't know english so well to provide examples, but in Russian literature there were a lot of them.Leehohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07438956683794597730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-49380369704525903382010-08-17T18:42:18.364+02:002010-08-17T18:42:18.364+02:00Read this scientific article
That's not a sci...<i>Read this scientific article</i><br /><br />That's not a scientific article, it's a newspaper article about aspects of one scientist's research. Newspaper articles have nice tidy messages with no uncertainties or loose ends, because that's what the writers get paid to write. Actual science, on the other hand, is messy and contextual and there is always further research to do. <br /><br />I can see why the article appeals to you, because you like to believe in a simple, binary world, where everyone can be placed in a few basic categories. Reality is a lot more complicated though.Wilsonnoreply@blogger.com