tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post6191131519225064643..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: Richness is not getting what you desireGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-44335790429469340342011-03-05T11:45:51.901+01:002011-03-05T11:45:51.901+01:00Recently on MMO-Ch:
"Spirit Link Totem (new t...Recently on MMO-Ch:<br />"Spirit Link Totem (new talent) reduces damage taken by all party and raid members within 10 yards by 10%. This lasts 6 seconds, and every second it is active the health of all affected players is redistributed among them, such that each player ends up with the same percentage of their maximum health. This counts as an Air totem and has a 3-minute cooldown."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-15422576821767054322011-03-05T01:44:35.486+01:002011-03-05T01:44:35.486+01:00Nice post Gevlon,
I wanted to say that I also ra...Nice post Gevlon, <br /><br />I wanted to say that I also rarely feel shafted by Blizzard for some change. My main is a <a href="http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/dalaran/willforce/simple%22" rel="nofollow">resto shaman</a>, and I've hardly ever felt excluded or gimped because of my class. <br /><br />Granted, I was pretty upset when I came back to the game in Cataclysm and found out I couldn't cleanse diseases anymore, especially in the Lich King fight where it is mandatory. <br /><br />As you said, I just took the tools I had and did my best. Sometimes it wasn't good enough, but usually I got it figured out. I'm not much of a raider, so I don't have to compare myself to other healers much. <br /><br />While a defensive cooldown might be nice, it could also become another distraction for shamen. We already have shields, totems and whatever else to worry about. Another CD to manage only adds to the list, and gives Blizzard more to worry about balancing. <br /><br />If we get a defensive CD, we'll learn to incorporate it into our arsenal. If not, I think we'll be fine. After all, it's not like raid leaders are dumping shamen simply for their class choice.timejumperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01316402478328867703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-53891498403614243882011-03-05T00:24:34.992+01:002011-03-05T00:24:34.992+01:00@healer24
Sorry, I got interrupted. So what was ...@healer24<br /><br />Sorry, I got interrupted. So what was my original point?<br /><br />That when you can't tell the difference between what you want and what you need, you not only won't be happy, you won't be any good at anything.<br /><br />You think you need epic raid gear to be a badass in heroics. You think you need a BMW to be faster/cooler than the other people on the highway.<br /><br />But you don't. So let's differentiate between money and things. I'd rather drive an older car than owe the bank $50k for a BMW. I'd rather have 2 hours than queue for and run a heroic.<br /><br />Having more? Sure. But at some point, you have to quantify and qualify your wealth. Having more money than M&S is easy. Having more stuff than them is easy too. But knowing that you get better use out of your stuff? Well, that's priceless.Ayonelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-22597171519488460892011-03-05T00:08:01.784+01:002011-03-05T00:08:01.784+01:00@ Healer24
When you are rolling on trivial upgrad...@ Healer24<br /><br />When you are rolling on trivial upgrades at the expense of the raid that means you are lengthening the progression curve since if everyone else is sufficiently geared (and know how to play well) you can tackle content and get upgrades that improve dps by more than 1%. I would think a true Goblin would see that since the Goblin mantra is "time is money friend". We can make more gold and get more gear but we can never make more time - its truly a finite commodity. Time can only be made efficient unless you have learned to break the rules of space/time <br /><br />When I say most people it's from the progression graphs posted on Gevlon's blog. If most people were familiar with the peaks and valleys of their class, raid progression for most raiding guilds would be on par or very close to the elite guilds. Meaniful practice builds success and Gevlon's data (# of boss kills) would show that.<br /><br />I'm not the most elite player but when I am raiding I study my class well. I don't raid anymore because I don't want to be held to a particular raid attendance. I'm currently happy just dabbling in the AH and getting in the random heroic.Campitorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05694617395206756224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-25165195428599351992011-03-04T23:53:38.009+01:002011-03-04T23:53:38.009+01:00Healer24 is a true example of an entitled M&S....Healer24 is a true example of an entitled M&S.<br /><br />A ture goblin knows his associates and the fact that in order to maximize profit he needs other people (or rather, the services they sell). He knows how to weigh effort vs. profit and can tell when a situation can lead to a potentially bigger future profit.<br /><br />Getting a minor dps increase at the expense of - say - a healer that needs it most is idiotic because you're essentially shooting yourself in the foot long-term. Instead you should be investing in smoother, future runs, that would mean less repairs, more loot for you and a smoother and stress-free raiding progress.<br /><br />This isn't social behaviour. This is the only logical thing to do if you're interested in progress and not just "ze eppixx lewt lol".<br /><br />Ignoring a large future profit for a smaller immediate gain doesn't make you a goblin. Only a moron.Tithianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17567723372347346654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-86199900534803648252011-03-04T23:42:18.181+01:002011-03-04T23:42:18.181+01:00@healer24
Actually, no, i'm not suggesting th...@healer24<br /><br />Actually, no, i'm not suggesting that you be happy with what you have. I'm stating that in a world where happiness is measured by what you have compared to what other people have, no one will ever be happy. <br /><br />Ultimately, happiness cannot be had from external sources. Nice things make me comfortable, and wealth facilitates the pursuit of happiness, but your capacity to be happy is not perfectly correlated to how much stuff you have.<br /><br />I got off this train a long time ago. I have a great life, make good money, etc, but realize that there is a point where stuff will increase my happiness only marginally. Being unhappy about better paid coworkers doesn't make be happier, or make me more money. Buying a new car will make me a little happier for a short time, but that's it. Moreover, to Gevlon's original point, if i can do 10k dps with my lock in 333 gear, or smoke a guy in a BMW with my Jetta, why waste time, money, and effort on something more? I get what I need, the other people look like idiots, and I just count my money. <br /><br />Do I want more? Sure, that is the human condition. But maximizing the utility of what i have, appreciating what i have, and enjoying life is the trick.Ayonelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-43865813952307046342011-03-04T20:34:14.346+01:002011-03-04T20:34:14.346+01:00You haven't yet fought the bosses where absenc...You haven't yet fought the bosses where absence of mitigation cooldowns really hurts. You may feel poor once again when Nefarian's Lightning Machine strikes your entire raid for 100k nature damage on top of some 20k shadowflame barrages...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-67146653575345654422011-03-04T18:29:33.508+01:002011-03-04T18:29:33.508+01:00I look at boss loot tables to know what I should r...I look at boss loot tables to know what I should roll/bid on in advance. <br /><br />I would hate to win an item I really didn't need in a GDKP or normal DKP system. <br /><br />It is sometimes difficult to make that decision in the short time you have after a boss kill. <br /><br />Have you ever had this happen to you? Have you been stuck with a side grade item or lost half the bid gold?formatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-62048539623554918342011-03-04T17:46:18.790+01:002011-03-04T17:46:18.790+01:00Zenga said that "Blizzard went for the 'b...Zenga said that "Blizzard went for the 'bring the player not the class' principle".<br /><br />Frankly, that is not the case in WoW. Blizzard may repeat that mantra in the hopes of it being believed, but it just isn't true.<br /><br />Maybe when mages can tank or heal, I'll take it seriously (not that I'm asking for that, I'm just pointing out that if Blizzard were serious about "bring the player, not the class", this would be a logical consequence). <br /><br />At the moment, their mantra is pure tripe.Dàchénghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02994982502333811797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-25975261204205205352011-03-04T16:25:25.828+01:002011-03-04T16:25:25.828+01:00A good post, not usual to see something upbeat and...A good post, not usual to see something upbeat and positive coming from Gevlon! And, to have the idea shat upon by moronic, immature commentors here... I really enjoyed the initial read and I always read the comments and just got more and more sad that so many people just didn't 'get it'... when it wasn't even that complicated of a post! Thanks, Gevlon, good stuff!Nikodhemushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02165891420642892313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-90269238075347278192011-03-04T16:17:07.246+01:002011-03-04T16:17:07.246+01:00@Campitor
"The aforementioned example in-gam...@Campitor<br /><br />"The aforementioned example in-game equivalent would be the guy who insist on getting all the loot at the expense of raid progression. We all know these players - the players who insist that a healer ring would improve their dps by 1% and roll on it in order to replace an already equivalent epic while leaving his fellow guildy with a green or blue level item."<br /><br />The guys is doing what's best for him. That's what he should do, according to the goblin philosophy. Having to worry with the overall good or with the guildies is something not present at this blog.<br /><br />I'm guessing that you play your class well because of this "Most players don't spend enough time learning the peaks and valleys of their class' abilities and talents and are a poorer player for it.". Where's your data? Why most?<br /><br />I'm also guessing that most people don't reach their full potential.Healer24noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-24196478759698727692011-03-04T15:56:01.649+01:002011-03-04T15:56:01.649+01:00I prefer the axiom "It's not what you mak...I prefer the axiom "It's not what you make, it's what you spend" as a better proverb. There have been studies that point out that once you get past a certain dollar amount (I think it's 700 million)there is no appreciable difference in lifestyle to be had by gaining more money. So why do people do it? I think at that point they are just enjoying the game of gathering money. An in-game parallel would be the players who go for the million gold cap which far exceeds what you will ever need to play the game. Why they enjoy the "make money" game is a totally different discussion which would require a wall of text to discuss. <br /><br />I personally have no problem with someone trying to get rich as long as they don't do it at my expense. For example, I like to buy gas for my 40mpg car and I don't begrudge the 15mpg guy who likes to come and refuel at the same gas station. But if that same guy shows up with an 18wheeler with a gas container tank strapped to it and drains all the fuel before I or anyone else get any, then I would get very upset.<br /><br />The aforementioned example in-game equivalent would be the guy who insist on getting all the loot at the expense of raid progression. We all know these players - the players who insist that a healer ring would improve their dps by 1% and roll on it in order to replace an already equivalent epic while leaving his fellow guildy with a green or blue level item.<br /><br />And yes I agree with Gevlon. Most players don't spend enough time learning the peaks and valleys of their class' abilities and talents and are a poorer player for it. They insist on blizzard buffing their class which of course makes some players OP who have studied their class very well and have experimented to the upmost degree.Campitorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05694617395206756224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-77325670444041809242011-03-04T15:49:02.320+01:002011-03-04T15:49:02.320+01:00@Healer24
He started with nothing, common misconc...@Healer24<br /><br />He started with nothing, common misconception. His parents were rich, he got an aureate education, that is ahead of almost everyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-90349550866220135452011-03-04T15:44:47.171+01:002011-03-04T15:44:47.171+01:00It's funny that you bring up resto shamans as ...It's funny that you bring up resto shamans as example: they have actually been worse than other healers whole cataclysm, in terms of HPS. They do provide variety of buffs - but they still even after those buffs lose in HPS versus other classes on both 10man and 25man.<br /><br />Source: http://stateofdps.com/index.php?data=patch_dps&raid=10N&samples=200&spec=healerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-11752236923261136192011-03-04T15:36:19.648+01:002011-03-04T15:36:19.648+01:00It seems that you are trying to use the word "...It seems that you are trying to use the word "rich" to mean content with what you have and "poor" to mean not content with what you have. I don't mind your sort of redefinition of rich and poor here, but it's worth noting that that's not generally how those words are used. Rich means having more compared to the average of those around you. Poor means having less compared to the average of those around you. Neither of them have much to do with how much you have in objective terms.Healer24noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-27055952153587649912011-03-04T15:28:33.750+01:002011-03-04T15:28:33.750+01:00@zenga: "progress fights" aren't ne...@zenga: "progress fights" aren't necessarily heroic mode. "progress fights" are whatever fight(s) the guild in question is currently working/struggling on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-61673586464036049112011-03-04T15:14:24.607+01:002011-03-04T15:14:24.607+01:00@Zenga, Dangphat: you are mixing "want" ...@Zenga, Dangphat: you are mixing "want" and "need". "Need" is something I can't do without. "Want" is something I would do better with. Example: "I can do enough DPS in blues to be within enrage time but would do more with epics" as opposed to "I need epics or I can't do shit".<br /><br />One shall always has desires. But should know that he has enough already and now he is aiming for some extra as opposed to fighting for survival.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-25432215132447785622011-03-04T15:02:29.335+01:002011-03-04T15:02:29.335+01:00By the way, if you don't need the loot why do ...By the way, if you don't need the loot why do you buy it? And why do you raid? If it's to play the game, to see the encounter, you just need to do it once.zenganoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-38463756389823346502011-03-04T14:57:40.444+01:002011-03-04T14:57:40.444+01:00I confess that I'm a little worried with these...I confess that I'm a little worried with these last posts of yours. First having doubts about how to handle social relations, now saying that you're not the Greedy Goblin anymore... <br /><br />It shows that everyone can evolve, personally and emotionally. Maybe even those to whom you M&S can.<br /><br />Even if it's not the intention I'm happy to see once more that not all in you is simple math.Toboldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09010242058779953429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-4635231034738771542011-03-04T14:54:11.168+01:002011-03-04T14:54:11.168+01:00@Gevlon
Correct. And aren't we all? Look at t...@Gevlon<br /><br />Correct. And aren't we all? Look at the man. He's rich. Very rich. He started with nothing and ended being one of the most richest persons in the world. Also by comparison, your theories about economics and social politics are bullshit if you don't apply them in real world and get some real money just to show that's possible.Healer24noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-18846793241039865892011-03-04T14:08:27.771+01:002011-03-04T14:08:27.771+01:00Gevlon, I agree with a lot of what you say, but I ...Gevlon, I agree with a lot of what you say, but I think you have used to wide a brush.<br /><br />Your post seems to claim it impossible to be rich (in the clichéd philosophical way) and to have desires. I believe it is impossible to be rich without having desires.<br /><br />A bullshit Chinese proverb says something along the lines of "If you shoot for the tree-tops and fall short you will end in the branches, but if you shoot for the eagle and fall short you will still be in the tree tops".<br /><br />To me, apathy is a bigger evil than greed. To say "I am top healer/dps meters, so I dont care if I get gear" is a worse personality trait than "I am only second on the meters, gear is one of the way I can improve, therefore I want gear". The second at least shows a desire to improve, even if they are doing it for personal epeen rather than for the sake of the raid. The first person may feel rich but I wouldnt want to employ in life or in game.Dangphatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-18802482680840921702011-03-04T13:50:23.101+01:002011-03-04T13:50:23.101+01:00@Healer24: by comparison to Bill Gates, you are a ...@Healer24: by comparison to Bill Gates, you are a total loser.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-23105300816185185842011-03-04T13:36:48.459+01:002011-03-04T13:36:48.459+01:00@Ayonel
So, what you're saying is that you sh...@Ayonel<br /><br />So, what you're saying is that you should be content with what you have, which is what Gevlon is saying in his post. I call it bullshit. We should never be content. We should always want more. We should be greedy. Isn't this the Greedy Goblin blog? So, now, Gevlon, you're not greedy anymore? Are you the "Happy With I Have Goblin"?<br /><br />I think not.<br /><br />Ayonel, if i take all my money and move to Africa or South America, I'll be rich. Here, I'm just a regular guy. We're rich, or poor, by comparison. Always.Healer24noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-14204571277919206672011-03-04T12:43:27.172+01:002011-03-04T12:43:27.172+01:00I think this very much describes the biggest socia...I think this very much describes the biggest social problem in the US today. You have union workers making 100k with fully paid benefits thinking they are poor because the unknown fat cats, 'the rich' have everything and they, barely getting by on 2x national average, are poor. Likewise all the other people who have good jobs, nice houses, and all the material items you could want. <br /><br />Yes, the economy is bad, there are people suffering, but by conflating everyone into the put-upon middle class, it makes it seem like everyone wants for staple items, when the reality is that the malls are still full, the supermarkets shelves are stocked, and the majority of us aren't doing as well as we used to, which in many cases means they are driving 3 year old cars instead of new ones.<br /><br />In a world where want == need, everyone is poor. Those of us who don't share that opinion are insane.Ayonelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-26262969186131117592011-03-04T12:29:42.931+01:002011-03-04T12:29:42.931+01:00Rich man is man who can have anything he NEED, not...Rich man is man who can have anything he NEED, not anything he want.<br /><br />On the other hand, people who "need" gear usually don't need it for improving their performance, but as collector who need to have all (at least more than others)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com