tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post5942905104866777387..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: We didn't want that X anywayGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-85754995585311784782015-09-19T14:50:05.521+02:002015-09-19T14:50:05.521+02:00I can't help noticing that the socialist evil ...I can't help noticing that the socialist evil power that was supposed to be defeated by now is still there, still the most powerful entity in the game and the meritocratic powers are apparently unable to move against it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-82401910669623309782015-09-18T21:44:24.481+02:002015-09-18T21:44:24.481+02:00Gevlon, I think you are now ready for the next ste...Gevlon, I think you are now ready for the next step. It's time for you to start reading the Anonymous Conservative and educating yourself on r/K selection and narcissism.<br /><br />http://www.anonymousconservative.com/<br /><br />The goons are a narcissistic organization, and the free resources of EVE compel people to be rabbits. It's all there in the books/site.Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270536870200063563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-84668078343668034322015-09-18T21:03:24.555+02:002015-09-18T21:03:24.555+02:00@Gevlon
So are we talking average players or Titan...@Gevlon<br />So are we talking average players or Titan owners?<br />Really can't have your cake and eat it on that one.maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-1608738807941259602015-09-18T20:38:10.574+02:002015-09-18T20:38:10.574+02:00@Maxim: the average player rats or runs mission. G...@Maxim: the average player rats or runs mission. Getting him the ISK is much more tedious than for me.<br /><br />@Arrendis: now I remember why I kicked you from this blog: endless arguments over irrelevant technicalities, avoiding the point as far as possible. Go away and never come back!Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-39758057737381025492015-09-18T19:46:50.196+02:002015-09-18T19:46:50.196+02:00@Gevlon
You are implying that the person in questi...@Gevlon<br />You are implying that the person in question vies money in the same way you do, or has the same trouble earning them as you do.<br />Not always the case )<br /><br />In fact, nearly never the case.maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-87474985787039737482015-09-18T17:40:56.912+02:002015-09-18T17:40:56.912+02:00@Arrendis: reimbursing Rayonar actually makes it w...@Arrendis: reimbursing Rayonar actually makes it worse, not better: <br />- Mittens have a bad day: you get your titan exploded and purged<br />- Mittens have a good day: you get a titan and roles.<br /><br />@Anonymous: you are right. However I'm also a blogger, and the way MoA handled this situation is excellent material to show meritocracy at work.<br /><br />@Next anon: kicking bads is not oppression. Forcing people to carry bads is.<br /><br />@Last anon: the Mittani wasn't sarcastic. That monumental stupidity had no consequence.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-30390488432685237482015-09-18T17:28:23.944+02:002015-09-18T17:28:23.944+02:00Ever heard of sarcasm? When someone says "did...Ever heard of sarcasm? When someone says "didn't want it anyway", that's a sarcastic way of saying "I fucked up".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-56172242452027999642015-09-18T17:04:36.592+02:002015-09-18T17:04:36.592+02:00Gevlon, I think you missed the point of the part y...Gevlon, I think you missed the point of the part you underlined. You are condemning lack of discipline for failure, but then you are just proving Kyle's point. You call the Imperium "evil" and "oppressive", yet MoA is far more strict and oppressive than them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-7399647052676973112015-09-18T16:58:47.502+02:002015-09-18T16:58:47.502+02:00> Because those are costly mistakes and I want ... > Because those are costly mistakes and I want to warn everyone against them.<br /><br />Gevlon, I think you might be losing track of something basic here. You pay for people to kill goons. You don't ask them to take you with them, or provide them with ships, you provide them with isk. Isk in one end, dead goons out the other. You provide your isk to whoever does it the best.<br /><br />You should't worry at all about what happens in the middle! Terrible management? Laughable kills? Horrible isk efficiency? These could be problems, but as long as the dead goon production is still worth your donation, they're not your problem. <br /><br />Let's say that this fumble is repeated, using money you provide them. Every week for long enough that they can't afford actually effective ships. That would reduce the amount of useful work MOA does. Your reaction to this should be to fund the competition, not worry about trying to change the way they make decisions or the quality of work they do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-12887766252551324922015-09-18T16:27:42.043+02:002015-09-18T16:27:42.043+02:00//I regularly lose empty shuttles and pods to smar...//I regularly lose empty shuttles and pods to smartbombers in Frulegur. I post nothing, because I don't care.//<br /><br />I've lost more than that, but if it wasn't for them I'd make 0 isk in that pocket. Despite the fact that I was stupid with losses (taking a non empty pod through), I'm glad those guys are there. <br /><br />Maybe not a case of IDWIA and more of a case of "oh well at least I got something better now". NuTrollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08683978815250393940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-7561698201837566252015-09-18T11:48:43.926+02:002015-09-18T11:48:43.926+02:00Both. Goons openly reject the idea of failure, the...Both. Goons openly reject the idea of failure, the one who failed can honestly believe that he did everything by the standards of the group (and most cases he is objectively right).<br /><br />Losing a titan needs having a titan first. You can get a titan by farming for 150-1000 hours (depending on your ISK making ability) or paying $1500 for PLEX (or paying $750 on the black market and risk your account). If someone puts so many real world hours or money into a video game where he is so incompetent that he loses the said titan in minutes, well, I believe that person is an idiot in real life. No less idiot than the guy who puts $1500 on a horse race without having any clue about the horses.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-48207501672746569762015-09-18T11:33:29.954+02:002015-09-18T11:33:29.954+02:00I'd like you to draw an line here.
Failure in ...I'd like you to draw an line here.<br />Failure in a controlled environment is necessary (and is, in fact, one of the best tools) for human learning. Everything in Eve is, ultimately, a controlled environment. All failures within it are equal and are simply tools for learning.<br /><br />Is your problem with goons that they don't give hard enough feedback to failure so people don't learn?<br />Or do you actually believe losing a titan to interceptors in Eve says anything real about anyone?maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-4750448417726601712015-09-18T11:06:53.564+02:002015-09-18T11:06:53.564+02:00@Amyclas Amatin: for a man with no greater purpose...@Amyclas Amatin: for a man with no greater purpose than shooting pixels while drunk or fapping, tyranny is the perfect system. No irony here.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-58504573797546185822015-09-18T10:09:11.372+02:002015-09-18T10:09:11.372+02:00Zyrus, my masters give me cake, community and a se...Zyrus, my masters give me cake, community and a sense of purpose. And a chance to shoot spaceships while drunk or fapping. What's not to love from being in the Tyranny?Amyclas Amatinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-7482880198259272562015-09-18T10:00:24.395+02:002015-09-18T10:00:24.395+02:00Its a game, whether its a titan or a shuttle, its ...Its a game, whether its a titan or a shuttle, its all funny as hell and laughing about it which is what the "Didn't want it anyway" comment is about, is simply that, a laugh. Some of you guys honestly take this game to seriously.Exnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-50781981280919496782015-09-18T08:32:08.817+02:002015-09-18T08:32:08.817+02:00They're idiots.
They keep claiming MOA is a t...They're idiots.<br /><br />They keep claiming MOA is a tyranny yet the Imperium isn't. They're confused, believing that performance checks are tyranny, yet doing whatever the Imperium leadership feels like for no reason other than a whim, ordering them like puppets, isn't a tyranny.<br /><br />They're idiots. Beyond help.Zyrushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10373226782607937642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-71904998158785696832015-09-18T08:30:32.229+02:002015-09-18T08:30:32.229+02:00Have you even read that post?
I said that if the ...Have you even read that post?<br /><br />I said that if the titan lived, the pilot would have been informed of his bad decision (that it's a kill waiting to happen) and also ways how could he use the ISK. In best case he'd agree to sell the damn thing, buy 25 dreads, distribute them and drop the dread fleet on the next dumb Goon smartbomb-camping a gate.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-55112953031691501682015-09-18T08:25:00.323+02:002015-09-18T08:25:00.323+02:00But... You did basically post "didn't wan...But... You did basically post "didn't want it anyway" didn't you? I'm sure you claimed that the isk for it was entirely fetched by that guy alone, and had it been brought into the alliance he would have been forced to sell it anyway, so it wasn't a moa loss. That's basically the same thing, trying to distance the loss from moa.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-50246131172930903042015-09-18T07:55:49.749+02:002015-09-18T07:55:49.749+02:00Because those are costly mistakes and I want to wa...Because those are costly mistakes and I want to warn everyone against them.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-12687492589901151942015-09-18T07:34:47.893+02:002015-09-18T07:34:47.893+02:00You care enought to post a screencap in a p.s. eve...You care enought to post a screencap in a p.s. every time you put a wrong sell order up. <br />Why do you care about that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-51874545406084269482015-09-18T06:49:59.253+02:002015-09-18T06:49:59.253+02:00If they don't care, why do they post "I d...If they don't care, why do they post "I didn't want it anyway"? I regularly lose empty shuttles and pods to smartbombers in Frulegur. I post nothing, because I don't care.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-48648531087673740722015-09-18T06:41:19.632+02:002015-09-18T06:41:19.632+02:00Or they just don't care as much as you. A loss...Or they just don't care as much as you. A loss is a loss, but it doesn't mean people must rage about it. Titan down, the owner may have learned something from it, but as a whole, it didn't matter as much. At some point, such things become trivial. It's a function of distance and wealth. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com