tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post3807946191963535952..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: Cataclysm preparation #2Gevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-16110040605373927022010-11-10T09:30:04.564+01:002010-11-10T09:30:04.564+01:00Hi there guys,
don´t forget about the reputation y...Hi there guys,<br />don´t forget about the reputation you loose skipping those starting areas, reputation that can come quite handy if content and itemization is going to be as hard as some tell at early 85. It could be a pain farming quests at 85 to get exalted even with superior gear.<br /><br />Anyway, 500k xp seems really juicy given the fact that we cannot do much more right now. Be carefull, I've read some posts here and there claiming that quests logs would be reset ¿Anyone knows something about this?Macavitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-84750031698675925692010-11-10T02:19:12.653+01:002010-11-10T02:19:12.653+01:00I thought that in the past, Blizzard made it so th...I thought that in the past, Blizzard made it so that XP from quests are calculated when you pick up the quest, not when you turn it in. So your quest won't give XP since you picked it up at level 80, when you can't gain XP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-10102663093636943582010-11-10T02:14:16.749+01:002010-11-10T02:14:16.749+01:00I don't really see this as useful unless your ...I don't really see this as useful unless your goal is just to hit 85 as soon as possible. The biggest questing bottlenecks tend to be right at the start of the zone and you're not avoiding that without grinding the entire way. You'd mostly be skipping the end of zone quests which tend to be the best ones in terms of reward and interest, plus most players would be decently spread out by then.<br /><br />I think with WotLK they also adjusted the spawn rate to correspond with people in the zone. I joined late, but supposedly people died frequently just because of the volume of things respawning under them on high population servers.<br /><br />Though I was personally planning to ride out the initial week or two of rush by playing out the worgan or goblin starter zones which look to be heavily scripted/phased.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-44986229991835432532010-11-09T22:39:14.650+01:002010-11-09T22:39:14.650+01:00Yeah, I have been thinking about all this..
I was...Yeah, I have been thinking about all this..<br /><br />I was also thinking of enjoying the expansion too... rather than rush through it.Flipartonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-32178710906162937102010-11-09T10:39:16.214+01:002010-11-09T10:39:16.214+01:00I see some dailies there.
Unless that's the f...I see some dailies there.<br /><br />Unless that's the first time you complete the quests, their XP will be nerfed in Cataclysm.<br /><br />My tactic will simply be rushing to the first zone as soon as possible when servers open and try to outrun the competition, even if logging out inside Blackrock Mountain might be more efficient because you could almost instantly queue for the first dungeon. Combination of guild group and dungeon finder should be some great XP, but I want to experience the expansion day chaos.<br /><br />Combination of Digital Download, excellent internet connection and computer should give me a slight advantage.Loozerrhttp://www.wowhead.com/user=loozerr#charactersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-12011942102207610292010-11-09T07:57:53.837+01:002010-11-09T07:57:53.837+01:00@Fliparto:
Since you can level with the BC blue (d...@Fliparto:<br />Since you can level with the BC blue (daily) quests it is quite logic that wotlk blue (daily) quests will give you xp. Never heard of an upcoming change here... ...would be quite senseless too... ...and yes it works on beta...Visalyarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-9812816173373882502010-11-09T01:00:55.766+01:002010-11-09T01:00:55.766+01:00I'm pretty sure any quests marked as "com...I'm pretty sure any quests marked as "complete" are dropped when Cataclysm hits. At least, this was my experience in playing around in the beta: Quests that were in progress remained in my log after the transfer but quests I already had completed were gone. This seems in-line with Blizzard's philosophy of using expansions as a "fresh start" for everyone (and explains why there's a the gear reset as early as level 81).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-8815406669940674012010-11-08T19:52:27.234+01:002010-11-08T19:52:27.234+01:00A good idea from the last expansion. Some posters...A good idea from the last expansion. Some posters missed that you were saying do them in the current dead time and only turn them in on Dec 7.<br /><br />However, I am not sure that it has been confirmed what these quests will give a level 80 in Cataclysm. Does any beta person have recent info? <br /><br />Also I read you can level with archaeology which is 100% phased, so if you encounter a single M&S prior to 85 it is your choice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-20739529869770225392010-11-08T18:12:30.239+01:002010-11-08T18:12:30.239+01:00@arthur
From the one precedent we currently have,...@arthur<br /><br />From the one precedent we currently have, which is that level 70 dailies do grant exp now, we can imply that level 80 dailies should grant exp as well once Cata goes live.Janahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01732571182862802229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-13091025693222095172010-11-08T17:13:42.801+01:002010-11-08T17:13:42.801+01:00@ Gevlon:
Do the blue quests give you XP if you ha...@ Gevlon:<br />Do the blue quests give you XP if you have already originally completed them (when they were yellow?)<br /><br />Only question I have since i dont have Beta...<br />Thanks.Flipartonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-81719162148310971892010-11-08T16:19:40.184+01:002010-11-08T16:19:40.184+01:00I remember having a log of Netherstorm quests to h...I remember having a log of Netherstorm quests to hand in on the first day of wotlk, before going to Northrend.<br /><br />Now my main is Loremaster so I don't have many options left in Ice Crown and Storm Peaks so will probably have to rely on dailies, are we sure the dailies will grant exp?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05981359685374685641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-75604016226002853172010-11-08T15:51:38.868+01:002010-11-08T15:51:38.868+01:00Astoundingly, this was a tip I hadn't even con...Astoundingly, this was a tip I hadn't even considered. So, thanks for that. You also mentioned in your first cataclysm preparation post that it was a perfectly viable strategy to fall behind the wave as well. This is probably what I will do. I'm currently leveling a druid as I'm considering making it my main for cataclysm. I expect to be hitting Outlands around the time that Cataclysm hits. If ever there will be a time when that place will be deserted and easy to level in, it will be in those first couple of weeks.Healer24noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-18314149653999102512010-11-08T14:10:35.532+01:002010-11-08T14:10:35.532+01:00I too, had this idea of filling the questlog up to...I too, had this idea of filling the questlog up to the brim with dailies or lvl 80 group-quests.<br /><br />For those who are interested in the maximum exp you can make this way with 25 quests, it's about 900k.<br />This, certainly, is only possible when you haven't touched Storm Peaks and Icecrown yet and are willing to go to some extent for quests like the Malygos Keys and the Quel'dalar chain. You also have to wear heirloom shoulder- and chestpiece at the time you turn them in. As long as you are still lvl 80 the exp multiplier remains active.<br /><br />There may be other quests that net more raw exp, Wowhead seems to have a problem filtering quests with more than 40k exp.<br /><br />Icecrown:<br /><br />Light Within the Darkness<br />Tirion's Gambit<br />Mind Tricks<br />Putting the Hertz: The Valley of Lost Hope (Daily)<br />Revenge for the Vargul<br />Battle at Valhalas: Final Challenge<br />The Fate of Bloodbane<br />Coprous the Defiled<br />Neutralizing the Plague (Daily)<br />No Rest For The Wicked (Daily)<br />Shatter the Shards<br />The Guardians of Corp'rethar<br />The Flesh Giant Champion<br />The Admiral Revealed<br />4 random lvl 80 dailies in Icecrown<br /><br />Storm Peaks:<br /><br />The Brothers Bronzebeard<br />The Iron Colossus<br />The Reckoning<br />Thrusting Hodir's Spear (Daily)<br /><br />Misc:<br /><br />The Key to the Focusing Iris<br />The Heroic Key to the Focusing Iris<br />A Victory For The Silver Covenant<br /><br />If I'm not mistaken, it should be possible to have all these quests active at the same time. For Horde side you may have to change some quests to their counterpart. There may be more potential if you also use lvl 80 dungeon quests, but most people will have them completed already. The downside from this list is, that you have to fly around for quite some time to turn them all in.<br /><br />For people like me, who have done every possible quest already, it might be useful to go for the fastest time when considering what daily quests you choose. In my earlier attempts I was able to hand in 25 dailies in 4-5 minutes. Although this “only” nets about 700k exp, you might be fast enough to catch the first boat to Vashj’ir when you start at 0.01am, as the event at the docks, preceding the ride, takes quite some time.<br /><br />Ps. You shouldn’t use the Sealed Vial of Poison quest, as it does not give any exp. This was changed some time ago on beta, as people startet to collect huge amounts of Waterlogged Recipes and Sealed Vials of Poison on live servers.Asparagus32https://www.blogger.com/profile/03136279590366258707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-10316297409170991422010-11-08T13:13:08.928+01:002010-11-08T13:13:08.928+01:00@Anonymous: you do the quests now, you just return...@Anonymous: you do the quests now, you just return them in Cataclysm. You don't have anything else to do in the game now (granted, you don't have to play at all).Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-53635577823419153552010-11-08T13:10:06.466+01:002010-11-08T13:10:06.466+01:00Grinding old content to skip new?
Just no. The par...Grinding old content to skip new?<br />Just no. The part where you start working in a game is the part where i take a step back and stop.<br /><br />I won't rush.Mostly i will become 85 when half of the arenaseason is over but whatever, i dont work in games for small advantages.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-46925124604379843172010-11-08T12:35:16.901+01:002010-11-08T12:35:16.901+01:00I wouldn't judge leveling progress based on th...I wouldn't judge leveling progress based on the beta/test servers, as they might change the numbers several times for the sake of testing things. I'd be surprised if the experience required to get to 81 is only 1.7 million, as that is not much different from current leveling rates (faster, really, given that there are half as many levels this time). If that doesn't change, then you can level to 81 in Northrend without much difference from the new zones.<br /><br />A 500k head start is nice under any circumstance, but I expect that you'll have to hit the new zones right after, and then you hit the wall of players rushing to level.Tonushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01082528970434639776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-70990771250544423222010-11-08T12:28:52.501+01:002010-11-08T12:28:52.501+01:00Are we even sure these quests will reward you with...Are we even sure these quests will reward you with XP? Currently any quest completed on lvl 80 rewards you with gold, who say it won't stay that way?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-67914541783309508182010-11-08T11:49:07.956+01:002010-11-08T11:49:07.956+01:00Meemme's thought process:
"gms on, dkp o...Meemme's thought process:<br /><br />"gms on, dkp or roll, not know. shud ask"<br /><br />Gevlon: "It's in the rules."<br /><br />"interwebz tubes cloged. vil tke 2 long. 2 mch wrk. ask agn. he tell"<br /><br />Gevlon: "It's in the rules."<br /><br />"who needs guild, i farm now. oh look smthng shhiny!"Brontehttp://arewenewatthis.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-46342827767986963792010-11-08T11:24:03.579+01:002010-11-08T11:24:03.579+01:00Gevlon, you forget phasing.
Phasing in cataclysm ...Gevlon, you forget phasing.<br /><br />Phasing in cataclysm is much, MUCH heavier than in wrath. Also (in most cases) there will be 4-5 pathways you can choose from.<br />It won't be so crowded.Energybomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-27208471178500960692010-11-08T11:09:25.736+01:002010-11-08T11:09:25.736+01:00@ Yagamoth
Well, not sure about it, but I can see...@ Yagamoth<br /><br />Well, not sure about it, but I can see my newer miner (still at level 71) getting 2.5k-3k XP for every mined node.<br />Gathering profs giving you XP was actually announced (if I'm not wrong) as an incoming Cata change, then applied beforehands. Archeology is not live yet, thou, but I don't see it changing too much in Cata, I think the new profession will grant reasonable amount of XP, as mining is already doing now for my miner in WotLK.<br /><br />Moreover, there's no way for other players to interfere with you while leveling it.<br />A downside of it, though, is that if you focus too much on it you may find yourself at lvl85 while wearing Northrend stuff, and based on my experience on Beta it is not so good (HP wise everybody will be above or close to the 100k mark at lvl85).madgusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-78869437996698550482010-11-08T10:58:27.985+01:002010-11-08T10:58:27.985+01:00Nerdrager: Blizzard already said no to that (stat ...Nerdrager: Blizzard already said no to that (stat and experience) could get you the link to the official statment after workVisalyarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-69159494463618885222010-11-08T10:24:23.673+01:002010-11-08T10:24:23.673+01:00I must play on a deserted realm since even playing...I must play on a deserted realm since even playing during the morning of wotlk release wasn't such a bad experience (mob camping and so on).<br /><br />Another problem is that my main is a loremaster and so my only option for some xp hoarding are dailies.<br /><br />Anyone on beta tested if heirloom items work at lvl 80? (I know they shouldn't scale past that, but I'm not sure about how the extra xp is going to work with current boa gear) if yes that's an easy 100k xp right there for the same 25 quests. :)Nerdragernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-90767494318048080552010-11-08T10:18:51.872+01:002010-11-08T10:18:51.872+01:00I won't be trying to stay ahead of the crowd o...I won't be trying to stay ahead of the crowd or anything of the sort. If the questing is to tedious, I will go do something else for a few hours, then go back to it. <br /><br />I'm in no rush to get to 85. Maybe I will work on my professions in order to max them out or something. Maybe I will start an alt. In any case, I want to enjoy the new content, at least for a while.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11985132482635293125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-36293746940334158982010-11-08T10:07:30.774+01:002010-11-08T10:07:30.774+01:00I just wonder what kind of advantage will 500K XP ...I just wonder what kind of advantage will 500K XP give you over M&S? You will it will not get you even to a third of a bar (and XP on BETA may be different from XP). Because quest zones in Cataclysm are heavily phased (think Icecrown), you will have to start at the "beginning" of the new zones anyway. I am not saying 500K XP is not nice to begin with, I just miss the point. My inner feeling tells me that you would get those 500K in much less time in Cataclysm than by doing 25 Icecrown/Storm Peaks dailies.Deepfriedegghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01845991079192155377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-16179315847764452222010-11-08T10:06:49.330+01:002010-11-08T10:06:49.330+01:00@Gevlon: I agree, that this method will give you a...@Gevlon: I agree, that this method will give you a nice XP-advantage over most of the others. However, you should also consider that it may be better to complete the first few quest-chains fast to get ahead of the crowd. If you start a bit late it may also happen that the quests will take significantly longer due to the mass of people that also want to complete them.<br />I'm not saying this is the case, this highly depends on your server. Just a thought.<br /><br />@madgus: <i>"even skilling up archeology will grant you around 1 level every 2-3 hours."</i><br /><br />I was wondering, whether this will also be the case for live servers. I've seen the video from Totalbiscuit ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slg9rjHAqNo) where each find awarded about 121k XP at level 84. In my opinion it's not certain, that this will remain at such a high level. Or are there already some statements regarding this?Yagamothnoreply@blogger.com