tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post3634420013209285747..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: Guild in the guild systemGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-74546004897760159642010-11-15T21:25:55.689+01:002010-11-15T21:25:55.689+01:00@The Anonymous
No they don't use it as a excu...@The Anonymous<br /><br />No they don't use it as a excuse, they use i because it helps. If they relied on on people n vent telling them what to do, they wouldn't be a top guild.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-65610869049349146272010-11-15T15:37:26.809+01:002010-11-15T15:37:26.809+01:00I have a solution for the vent issue.
When someo...I have a solution for the vent issue. <br /><br />When someone says "Can someone call out when I need to move" is usually the prelude to a less then fun session." you simply say (wait for it.....)<br /><br />no<br /><br />If they dont move, you have rules to deal with poor players. <br /><br />Problem solved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-59188132283135489752010-11-14T23:20:18.156+01:002010-11-14T23:20:18.156+01:00"I agree with Gevlon on vent. It is an excuse..."I agree with Gevlon on vent. It is an excuse for players to be unprepared."<br /><br />That's why all top guilds use it: because it's an excuse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-34491887501972250672010-11-14T15:46:36.725+01:002010-11-14T15:46:36.725+01:00@Anonymous: what they do in the arena is their bus...@Anonymous: what they do in the arena is their business, I won't snoop around to find it out.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-82230748649030375882010-11-14T15:16:36.870+01:002010-11-14T15:16:36.870+01:00I just cant see arena teams joining with your No v...I just cant see arena teams joining with your No voice coms rule. Arena battles are dynamic your not fighting bosses on timers who do set things at set times, Unlike humans who can be very unpredictable I can't see a "no voice com" arena team progressing further than 1600 rating working with macro's etc etc.<br />(unless all players are in the same room)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-60664896863587588262010-11-13T05:49:28.004+01:002010-11-13T05:49:28.004+01:00I agree with Gevlon on vent. It is an excuse for ...I agree with Gevlon on vent. It is an excuse for players to be unprepared. "Can someone call out when I need to move" is usually the prelude to a less then fun session.<br /><br />It's also possible for a raid to use vent and not accept raiders that use it as a crutch. It's just another tool like guild chat.Big Healshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17873414754638330124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-67491257141358689672010-11-13T05:32:36.394+01:002010-11-13T05:32:36.394+01:00Tried to post this on tobold's most recent pos...Tried to post this on tobold's most recent post but, he doesn't allow anonymous and I am actively against registering for an OpenID or using my g-mail. Maybe you'll share it?<br /><br />***<br /><br />sociopath: a person with an antisocial personality disorder.<br /><br />Remove the word disorder (and \change antisocial to asocial, but really the two are quite close in most people's eyes, just not Gevlon's) and Gevlon would agree with you -- and take it as a compliment.<br /><br />Gevlon's whole point seems to be that being a sociopath is better than being a social person; once you get over the shock value of that statement and start thinking about it, it is harder to think of why it is incorrect.<br /><br />Complain at whomever you want, but calling Gevlon a sociopath isn't really a meaningful criticism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-36437696790591646052010-11-12T20:06:15.200+01:002010-11-12T20:06:15.200+01:00So, basically anyone can use vent as long as he do...So, basically anyone can use vent as long as he doesn't enforce it on others?<br /><br />And there can even be vent or not vent raids?<br /><br />I still fail to understand how it's harmful to your guild if someone is willing to push a little bit harder in order to conquer something. Vent is not rarely found in trade channel pugs either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-53799142133577411022010-11-12T19:22:50.610+01:002010-11-12T19:22:50.610+01:00"Arena teams are pretty much fixed and don..."Arena teams are pretty much fixed and don't pull in other people."<br /><br />Nice to see I´ll get the chance to convince some of my favorite arenamates to take a look around.Visalyarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-54486344432809760152010-11-12T18:13:11.564+01:002010-11-12T18:13:11.564+01:00@Thenoisyrogue: it's not a problem. But imagin...@Thenoisyrogue: it's not a problem. But imagine a raid guild getting 3 more people from us and demand to come vent. Then people would start demanding vent everywhere. I have to draw a line. Arena teams are pretty much fixed and don't pull in other people.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-66492832448120356062010-11-12T17:57:03.475+01:002010-11-12T17:57:03.475+01:00Bu- but... but INT makes Crusader Strike crit hard...Bu- but... but INT makes Crusader Strike crit harder!Ferdinandhttp://ferdinandblog.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-18400611051046396512010-11-12T17:24:53.417+01:002010-11-12T17:24:53.417+01:00Gevlon, it shouldn't really matter how bad Art...Gevlon, it shouldn't really matter how bad Arthasdklol's guild really is to you. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the main reason for you wanting to join up with another 10 man guild to get access to the various benefits faster? You're essentially just using them and vise-versa. You do your thing and they do theirs.Coanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-63774609042317805782010-11-12T16:17:58.914+01:002010-11-12T16:17:58.914+01:00Gevlon,
My Arena team in the PuG used skype when ...Gevlon,<br /><br />My Arena team in the PuG used skype when playing matches. I don't even consider it to be an issue, as I am sure that you do not. I doubt that you could get anywhere in competitive team pvp without it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-36276058986296260882010-11-12T16:15:17.801+01:002010-11-12T16:15:17.801+01:00@Bulbasaur: have you actually read the post? That&...@Bulbasaur: have you actually read the post? That's exactly that such system cannot really work and the perks are most probably not worth it.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-25064934760687586422010-11-12T16:02:20.546+01:002010-11-12T16:02:20.546+01:00Gevlon asks:
"How could our guild members kn...Gevlon asks:<br /><br />"How could our guild members know that this "parallel guild" is good? I mean some guy comes out of the blue and say "hey blow your raid save with us instead of The PuG", how many will simply ignore him without bothering to look the guild up on wowprogress?"<br /><br />This can't be serious. It is possible to get a rough estimate of player/guild skill by a variety of means. While Gearscore and achievements are the forms most commonly used in /trade, it is often possible to get an idea of a player's skill by looking at guild their guild tag, asking others you know about the person in question, inspecting gear, checking their entry in pugchecker.com or a similar system, or through a variety of other methods. Just because somebody is a stranger doesn't mean they are a mystery; you can check their raiding resume.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-19450100652089703102010-11-12T15:51:37.589+01:002010-11-12T15:51:37.589+01:00Sorry but I thought that the goal of The Pug rules...Sorry but I thought that the goal of The Pug rules was trying to let the people's idiocy apart from raiding, and all that is left would be a bunch of people with some skills that raid whatever they want. But now it seems the rules are trying to just puor out people to get only the best raiders without any work or fun.<br /><br />Seems like the next change will be "We'll pay hardcore raiders to 'carry' us", in a similar way you did with your druid. <br /><br />(I used the word "carry" but it's not what I ment to say, I don't know the correct expression in english)<br /><br />To form a big guild of raiders with litle autonomies within seems very silly when you can form two different guilds.Bulbasaurnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-42837054518784654172010-11-12T15:48:12.159+01:002010-11-12T15:48:12.159+01:00Are the perks exclusive of your guild?Are the perks exclusive of your guild?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-44708214721712611312010-11-12T15:01:06.016+01:002010-11-12T15:01:06.016+01:00@Moraller: I can introduce you to a 7 times glad &...@Moraller: I can introduce you to a 7 times glad & "25 icc hc serverfirstkill" as well as sunwell prenerf raider. He is 15 years old and couldn´t even do some basic math nor can he write a single correct sentence (he even speaks with lols etc.). <br />If that´s an excuse for being an idiot well, everyone has his own goals ond some put them real low. But well at least that are only real life issues, aren´t they?Visalyarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-43586301879506899202010-11-12T14:06:35.778+01:002010-11-12T14:06:35.778+01:00let me say this, look up Vodka or Paragon guild...let me say this, look up Vodka or Paragon guild's. They would get world firsts in ICC, the old guild I was in got realm firsts in all of ICC and we was the 10th guild worldwide to down 25mHM, all with 2 alts and people named stuff you would classify as "M&S" and would never let join. Funny how those people slip through and get into some of the top guilds, while you talk about it and barely have 10m kills under your belts. From now on, talk only about the "M&S" on your realm, not "every" realm. I can show you 3 US realms that will make you eat your words about "all" realms.Morallerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07193440523338969841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-21636717058902757382010-11-12T13:00:32.833+01:002010-11-12T13:00:32.833+01:00"Maybe a few arena teams."
Why wouldn&#..."Maybe a few arena teams."<br /><br />Why wouldn't you allow Vent on Arena Teams? Or have you consider it?Toboldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09010242058779953429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-87467742369015808422010-11-12T12:47:18.572+01:002010-11-12T12:47:18.572+01:00@Grim: the rules are fine for 95% of the people. T...@Grim: the rules are fine for 95% of the people. The top 5% needs to be more relaxed and they deserve it. But I won't risk the 95% for them.<br /><br />The "able to hide it" is an intelligence/cooperation test. A top guild can do it, arthasdklol cannot.<br /><br />Also, the rules exist as they can be broken only with complete agreement, if someone doesn't like loot council (because the leader has favorites), then all he have to do is send me a screenshot and soon the loot council will disappear. <br /><br />@Anonymous: I don't doubt. Today's post was exactly about how they should stand alone, despite the slower perks, walking their own way.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-86584106689313145402010-11-12T12:43:15.156+01:002010-11-12T12:43:15.156+01:00My only comment is about voice chat.
Letting raid...My only comment is about voice chat.<br /><br />Letting raids use it while doing raids/competitive arenas isn't harming in any way. From my personal experience as a raid leader M&S will die in a fire even if you yell at them over vent.<br /><br />Of course using vent for social purpouses while not raiding can be totally banned, since most of the bleeding edge guilds don't really care about it.<br /><br />But I can't see guilds serious about raiding or really good arena teams be willing to join your project. Getting faster the guild perks doesn't even remotely compare to being able to use voice chat in terms of raiding or pvping usefulness.<br /><br />Just my 2 cents by the way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-9097457744818146862010-11-12T12:40:08.843+01:002010-11-12T12:40:08.843+01:00@Gevlon
Good old "slippery slope" fallac...@Gevlon<br />Good old "slippery slope" fallacy? <br /><br />You suggested that people just ignore the rules and try to hide it from you. Is that really a better way to deal with dysfunctional rules than changing them?Grimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-52908654927225185722010-11-12T12:21:52.704+01:002010-11-12T12:21:52.704+01:00@Grim: relax the rules until nothing is left
@Rip...@Grim: relax the rules until nothing is left<br /><br />@Riptor: definitely a good idea, but at the beginning of Cata it's unfeasible, as everyone is a leveling lowbie. After the first content patch there will be differences between a topguild and arthasdklol's team<br /><br />@Fubuar: will be a postGevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-20354874897651892212010-11-12T11:23:28.829+01:002010-11-12T11:23:28.829+01:00I like the moron's nature spell damage cape. I...I like the moron's nature spell damage cape. I can see the many uses as a palladin tank. <br /><br />/giggleKuckucknoreply@blogger.com