tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post3604013301282692157..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: Analysis of MoA with SMA sitting on their chest and beating them everytimeGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-76874287048354815472015-07-09T20:30:06.713+02:002015-07-09T20:30:06.713+02:00"Could you teach me how to calculate "im..."Could you teach me how to calculate "impact score"?"<br />No. Nobody could teach you how to calcluate anything like that, sine it's not raw numbers. To make it simple though, there has to be a visible negative effect on the imperium. There isn't. The only downsizing they've done has been to fozziesov.<br /><br />"CFC is a ratting coalition. They rat for ISK (there is no other point). Take their ISK and they leave."<br />Obviously they don't though, since it's been over a year and still there's no signs of people leaving. Ratters have losses and those are acceptable. When they aren't, they adapt, they don't leave. In order to beat them you have to come up with a way to negatively impact them in a way they can't adapt. I'd really like to see you succeed, that's the hard part of all this, you just never will if you're expecting it to be won by ganking random ships.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-57455162337657237482015-07-09T09:32:45.884+02:002015-07-09T09:32:45.884+02:00Could you teach me how to calculate "impact s...Could you teach me how to calculate "impact score"?<br /><br />CFC is a ratting coalition. They rat for ISK (there is no other point). Take their ISK and they leave.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-17564712206779831512015-07-09T08:42:59.740+02:002015-07-09T08:42:59.740+02:00"VoC was #6 killer in June, not bad from a fe..."VoC was #6 killer in June, not bad from a few guys."<br />That's the point though... it IS bad. They may have buffed their killboard stats, but most of the imperium have no idea who they are. Killboard stats are irrelevant, what matters is impact. You've proven yourself that killboards can easily be inflated by picking easy targets. That's all that happens here. Groups like this and MOA specifically avoid strategic targets in favours of buffing killboard, since that's all you look at. It will never change a thing. You've been at this how long? And you still haven't figured that part out yet?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-23167564607132230672015-07-09T08:32:37.546+02:002015-07-09T08:32:37.546+02:00VoC was #6 killer in June, not bad from a few guys...VoC was #6 killer in June, not bad from a few guys.<br />CFC lost 5 regions and all the highsec POCOs, I'd hardly call it nothing.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-3057577864183566562015-07-08T16:27:23.866+02:002015-07-08T16:27:23.866+02:00Verge of Collapse is a dying alliance that now onl...Verge of Collapse is a dying alliance that now only has 109 members, with maybe 4 or 5 of them that camp in cloaky stratios in CFC territory. I'd hardly call that a threat.<br /><br />Your logic on how killboard efficiency wins wars is laughable. MOA hasn't gained anything while 90% of the CFC was down in Delve. How do you call that a victory? Anyone can easily get their killboard efficiency up by flying risk adverse cloaky bombless bombers. You know, the type of bombers that you criticized the CFC for using during the TEST Fountain war. There is still no mass exodus from the CFC, in fact they probably have the highest retention rate out of any alliance in Eve.<br /><br />But your winning right, because killboard efficiency....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-82469369133641211582015-07-08T12:30:28.705+02:002015-07-08T12:30:28.705+02:00Thanks for the link, it's hilarious. However, ...Thanks for the link, it's hilarious. However, they are NOT the new recipients for this month, they are scheduled for August pay, since I first want numbers and pay after. Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-70728832891532796022015-07-08T12:04:20.676+02:002015-07-08T12:04:20.676+02:00Reddit is quite lively with news of Verge of Colla...Reddit is quite lively with news of Verge of Collapse joining your crusade.<br /><br />https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3cirgn/verge_of_collapse_declares_war_on_cfcshitperium/Stabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08716211705647213383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-56279687295154077702015-07-08T09:38:22.502+02:002015-07-08T09:38:22.502+02:00indeed ISK efficency does not show everything.
j...indeed ISK efficency does not show everything.<br /><br /><br />june killboard will look better :D<br />https://zkillboard.com/kill/47674854/<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-62009346618476401572015-07-08T09:11:01.671+02:002015-07-08T09:11:01.671+02:00The full quote is actually:
"SpaceMonkey’s Al...The full quote is actually:<br />"SpaceMonkey’s Alliance completed a successful campaign of sitting on MOA’s chest and beating them everytime they showed any sign of taking advantage of the Imperium’s Delve Deployment"<br />That's actually true. ISK efficiency means very little.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-81379037476912437112015-07-08T06:55:30.739+02:002015-07-08T06:55:30.739+02:00While I do not take Imperium propaganda at face va...While I do not take Imperium propaganda at face value, I feel your analysis is kind of flawed as well.<br />You equate success solely with ISK efficiency and if that were SMA's goal then you are correct.<br />But if their goal was to diminish MOA activity by burning ISK in the form of ships then their campaign may well have met it's goals.<br />An analogy would be WWII germany. Compared to the allies germany was ISK positive. They killed a lot more soldiers and destroyed more equipment than they lost during the war. (outside of civilian atrocities)<br />Now I am not comparing either side to nazi's or allies, that would be silly for a computer game, but the coffers of the imperium run a LOT deeper than that of MOA and thus they need not fly nearly as risk averse as MOA does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com