tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post3549585320636775061..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: Bad, bad Mr MetisGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-22013305544092422932013-01-22T14:30:47.980+01:002013-01-22T14:30:47.980+01:00I have to say, your praise for this Wescro guy is ...I have to say, your praise for this Wescro guy is confusing. He's running around, blowing up the very types of operations you claim to support.<br /><br />If he was accepted into a corp and started smart-bombing corp AFK or botting fleets I'd be cheering. However, he's not and your support for this guy is pathetic.<br /><br />The fact that the only reason he's lost your support is because he's an idiot when it comes to market mechanics instead of working against your stated goals is perplexing.Banedonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-35882201811850223922013-01-22T13:23:24.689+01:002013-01-22T13:23:24.689+01:00@Gevlon
"It's simply better for yourself...@Gevlon<br /><br />"It's simply better for yourself to cooperate nicely."<br /><br />Except if you're a miner, then you should hurt yourself (losing ships to Concord, losing sec status, losing mining time) ganking AFKers instead of cooperate. Do I have that right?<br /><br />"I want mining ops and not mining corps. One is open to anyone in the belt and focuses on profit, the other is a social group that usually don't even have an Orca."<br /><br />Which of course you would know because of your vast experience in mining corps... Oh, wait. I cannot say I have ever conducted an intensive study of hisec mining corps and their correlation with orcas myself, but I have spent some time in the recruitment channel and I do occasionally check the corp descriptions for players around me in hisec and I see "Orca boosts" advertised in pretty much every corp that has any interest in hisec mining. I see them offering refining skills/standings quite often as well. It's almost as if they recognise that players whose primary interest is earning ISK might be attracted by ways to increase that income. Hivemindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06023203654304122548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-72050498932130008032013-01-22T12:39:58.624+01:002013-01-22T12:39:58.624+01:00Ignoring that this was a rubbish attempt at market...Ignoring that this was a rubbish attempt at market PvP, why does this have to be an aggressive attack against New Order? <br /><br />This is a new and immature market with only one main supplier who charges Jita +25% prices. To me that looks ripe for for a bit of market PvP<br /><br />You aren't known for your alturistic behaviour. You aren't supplying New Order because you are a nice guy. You are there for the money. Attack him for being an idiot and he thought he could get an easy score. Don't attack him because you think his behaviour is attempting to profit from a social group. It reads as though you've decided it is ok for you to make X profit from New Order, but his attempt to extort 2X is unethical. When have you ever cared about that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-52207849366825150212013-01-22T12:30:49.169+01:002013-01-22T12:30:49.169+01:00" you shouldn't try to hurt people who ca..." you shouldn't try to hurt people who can defend themselves. It's simply better for yourself to cooperate nicely."<br /><br />So no one should ever go up against goons, or anyone but newbie corps or indy corps that you are sure don't fly any ships with guns?<br /><br />Plenty of AWOXing has worked, plenty of corp/alliance thefts against corps who can defend themselves have worked...that is some of the weirdest logic I have ever seen you use.<br /><br />Citation needed for mining corps usually not having Orcas. An Orca does not an open mining op make. Plenty of people have solo (as in, their alts + main) fleets, boosted by orcas, which are definitely not open to all.<br /><br />The idea of all playing nice, and opening up boosts to all who want to join is very socialist of you :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-50417796944148997812013-01-22T11:50:14.800+01:002013-01-22T11:50:14.800+01:00@Hivemind: exactly because it didn't work out ...@Hivemind: exactly because it didn't work out well for him (he lost money and became laughing stock). Just like you shouldn't drive fast in the snow, you shouldn't try to hurt people who can defend themselves. It's simply better for yourself to cooperate nicely.<br /><br />I want mining ops and not mining corps. One is open to anyone in the belt and focuses on profit, the other is a social group that usually don't even have an Orca.<br /><br />@Anonymous: no, I don't think that ethics have meaning.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-8067536501059043752013-01-22T11:45:05.128+01:002013-01-22T11:45:05.128+01:00Competitive Anti-socials will never take over the ...Competitive Anti-socials will never take over the world for far simpler reasons - the human being is an evolved social ape. We work better (and this is backed up by quite a lot of research) in social groups.<br /><br />We are 'competitive socials' if you like, and that is a very large part of why we have risen to be the dominant species on the planet.<br /><br />Also did you just state that you have no ethics? or an I reading something which is not actually there? (serious question, clarification would be greatly appreciated. Alternatively a blog post about your position on ethics if in fact you do not see yourself as an ethical being)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-53585668727153089772013-01-22T10:52:35.181+01:002013-01-22T10:52:35.181+01:00Let's be honest here, Wescro/Mr Metis made his...Let's be honest here, Wescro/Mr Metis made his name by signing on with player organizations and then backstabbing them when they least expected it. What made you think that he would be any different with <i>your</i> player organization?<br /><br />Incidentally, I'm surprised you used such superlative terms describing Wescro; if memory serves the mining ops he AWOXes are <i>exactly</i> the kind of thing you want to see all mining become; groups of active players, dedicated boosts, haulers, probably a dedicated refiner and trader as well.Hivemindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06023203654304122548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-85950769043475701952013-01-22T08:54:10.628+01:002013-01-22T08:54:10.628+01:00I can't know if his intention was to hurt the ...I can't know if his intention was to hurt the New Order or to get money but even if the second, he must have known that he has to hurt the New Order in order to get money (as no one else buys these guns there)Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-27744229792551908372013-01-22T08:16:40.728+01:002013-01-22T08:16:40.728+01:00While this was market PVP; was it to do with speci...While this was market PVP; was it to do with specifically targetting the new order? or merely taking advantage of a limited supply (you only list 1/day)?<br /><br />You listed glyphs back in WoW. There were plenty of times that you would have observed attempted market buyouts and relisting. <br /><br />This read more like a 'traditional' limited supply market, so lets gouge it; rather than anything personal.<br /><br />The 'correct' response to someone wanting to buy you out is simply to give them something to buy (as you did).Foohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02444693774790165427noreply@blogger.com