tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post2874910891880499030..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: The best thing you can do to a moronGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-66826335784404287492009-11-05T04:21:01.374+01:002009-11-05T04:21:01.374+01:00Just had this conversation, thought it fits the to...Just had this conversation, thought it fits the topic perfectly. <br /><br />[11/04/2009]<br />21:57 [Angioplasty]: still level 1 you bum and you still havent logged off yet lol :)<br />21:58 [Pacala]: goldcaps is so so so close<br />21:58 [Angioplasty]: to 80?<br />21:59 [Pacala]: no to gold cap<br />21:59 [Angioplasty]: oh shit whats the cap again?<br />21:59 [Pacala]: when you reach gold cap it says "you have reached gold limit and cannot aquire any mor gold)<br />21:59 [Pacala]: 217k and change<br />21:59 [Angioplasty]: you dont have 217k man<br />22:00 [Pacala]: no i have 107k righ tnow<br />22:00 [Pacala]: gold cap is 217k<br />22:00 [Angioplasty]: thats hard to beleive buddy. let me have 2kg then is you have so much plz<br />22:00 [Angioplasty]: would be nice of you<br />22:01 [Angioplasty]: i mean if you really have that much bro<br />22:01 [Pacala]: i'll buy 2000g worth of herbs from you<br />22:01 [Angioplasty]: you could spare me 2k<br />22:01 [Pacala]: but i'mnot giving you hard earned gold for free<br />22:01 [Angioplasty]: what herbs do you want?<br />22:01 [Angioplasty]: will you give me now and ill go farm herbs for you<br />22:01 [Pacala]: adder/icethorn/lichbloom<br />22:01 [Angioplasty]: i can get any herb possible<br />22:01 [Pacala]: haha thats not how it works<br />22:01 [Pacala]: 100 stacks of herbs = 2000g<br />22:02 [Pacala]: 20g/stack<br />22:02 [Angioplasty]: i know i just want to get paid for motivation to go farm herb.<br />22:02 [Angioplasty]: not gonna steal from you bud<br />22:02 [Pacala]: that's not how it works sorry<br />22:02 [Pacala]: if you COD to me I will always buy it from you<br />22:02 [Angioplasty]: ok ill go farm first<br />22:02 [Angioplasty]: okdebussyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02659441493549929772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-37761996239599632522009-11-05T03:29:40.628+01:002009-11-05T03:29:40.628+01:00Anti said:
"who buys the extra food?
in the ...Anti said:<br />"who buys the extra food?<br /><br />in the US the government effectively does by putting tarrifs on imported corn / sugar etc so maintaining artificially high prices."<br /><br />Doesn't that indicate to you that regulation is bad for everyone?<br />The US also pays farmers subsidies to NOT produce crops.<br /><br />Let's assume that we remove tariffs and stop the artificial shortage of food. <br />Now food prices go down, and we can start trading excess food to a developing country, let's say.. Nigeria.. which suffers from poverty and food shortages but has plenty of oil.<br />So now we get exchange cheap excess food for a resource that we lack. This in turns drops the cost of transporting and creating this food, which makes the food even cheaper.<br />There, not only did I just solve world hunger, I solved a National Security problem. We didn't need to invade the middle east, all we had to do was increase food production...comradevikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03055074901903057434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-43546641934944312542009-11-05T01:23:42.878+01:002009-11-05T01:23:42.878+01:00who buys the extra food?
in the US the government...who buys the extra food?<br /><br />in the US the government effectively does by putting tarrifs on imported corn / sugar etc so maintaining artificially high prices.antinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-82072157880272494522009-11-05T01:12:18.558+01:002009-11-05T01:12:18.558+01:00Everyone can make money if production increases.
...Everyone can make money if production increases.<br /><br />Let's say Joe is a farmer, Billy is a mechanic, and Rob is a manufacturer.<br /><br />Joe produces food which is purchased by Billy and by Rob, Billy maintains Joe's tractors and Rob's fabrication machines, and Rob sells tools to Joe and Billy.<br /><br />Now let's say that Joe inherits the neighboring parcel of land from his grandfather. Now Joe can increase his production. To do so, he'll need more tractors/tools, which means more maintenence. By increasing his production, he increases the production of the two industries that interact with him. Rob sells more tractors and tools to Joe, who requires more maintenence from Billy, who requires more tools from Rob.<br /><br />In this (very simplified) example, everyone makes more money because production rises across the board. This is a Randian example of how production breeds production.Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00123929988970902320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-88233390901171411132009-11-04T21:19:21.635+01:002009-11-04T21:19:21.635+01:00The only way to everyone make money is inflation.The only way to everyone make money is inflation.Nilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06468755466492675831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-26275545152460085422009-11-04T20:38:07.211+01:002009-11-04T20:38:07.211+01:00@dozenz
no, if there were too many goblins, EVERY...@dozenz<br /><br />no, if there were too many goblins, EVERYONE would make money.<br /><br />but fewer individuals would make dramatically more money than everyone else.Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00123929988970902320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-85976668249854602392009-11-04T17:23:43.428+01:002009-11-04T17:23:43.428+01:00If there were too many goblins in the world than n...If there were too many goblins in the world than nobody would make any money....dozenzhttp://www.slashcry.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-86883595445363903702009-11-04T17:10:45.128+01:002009-11-04T17:10:45.128+01:00In RL, the Government has made it very complicated...In RL, the Government has made it very complicated to run a business. There are so many regulations, reports, taxes, licenses, etc. That's why so many people pay "under the table" (cash). But that's illegal, so you risk getting caught.<br /><br />Also, in RL, employees are sometimes unreliable (being kind), do substandard work, have interpersonal issues, and on and on.<br /><br />If they made it easier for a Goblin to run a business, maybe more would. But for now I think the effort/reward ratio is out of whack.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-68969138767506601662009-11-04T16:02:27.442+01:002009-11-04T16:02:27.442+01:00When I see people wanting gold, I ask them about w...When I see people wanting gold, I ask them about what professions they have. That will give you tips about what you can buy from them or how you can put them to work.<br /><br />I sold a guy a gold making tip for 10% of his first weeks profits. That paid me 300g. Another person was a miner and I was able to get a good deal on eternal earth and shadow that he had in the bank.<br /><br />Another time I just put someone to work crafting 30 of something they could make so I could relist it on the AH.<br /><br />It never hurts to look at how they can make you gold while you are helping them.Kevin Marquettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16389030891301082770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-72233334434414118022009-11-04T16:01:28.248+01:002009-11-04T16:01:28.248+01:00The average player only cares about having enough ...The average player only cares about having enough gold to pay for repairs/enchants/consumables. They will save up to get X item in the near future, but never past that. This in turn causes the 5% of the server population who are not impulsive buyers and think about their future to accumulate 90% of the gold, and blizzard has to keep increasing the gold reward from trivial things like dailys to keep the crowd away from goldsellers.debussyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02659441493549929772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-53674139390232694072009-11-04T15:39:11.461+01:002009-11-04T15:39:11.461+01:00That 50g/day figure seems fishy to me. If he is a...That 50g/day figure seems fishy to me. If he is a level 80, pretty much anything you do will get you that amount. If you do the heroic daily and maybe another heroic, you are pretty much at 50g. Doing 4 faction dailies will get you over 50g. You pretty much just have to stand around and do nothing to earn less than 50g during a playsession.<br /><br />This is also the reason why the employer-employee relationship in WoW is so rare. The average player can easily make enough gold just playing the game casually to support his/her playstyle at level cap. The players simply do not need to enter into a long term contract relationship in order to support themselves.Nielasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-59081498615494315452009-11-04T15:23:19.052+01:002009-11-04T15:23:19.052+01:00Several months ago when the glyph market was more ...Several months ago when the glyph market was more in the 15-25g range on my server and I didn't have all the glyphs resarched, I used to pay guildmates 1g per glyph they would craft for me. At the time I was getting my herbs for 10g a stack, almost to the point where my inks cost me zero gold. This was an easy way for me to gain more control over the glyph market, make more gold, and help my poor guildmates out as well. I mean 1g for a glyph combine is a huge gold/hour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-86604472803097060492009-11-04T15:12:02.894+01:002009-11-04T15:12:02.894+01:00umm its a game. Most people don't want to w...umm its a game. Most people don't want to work in the game.<br /><br />Besides this is exactly opposite to what you want in the real world.<br /><br />I think you proved the conservative argument for creating jobs, rather than "I've got mine,you get yours" it helps the common good.<br /><br />However morons are not just at the bottom. Morons at the top should have their pay cut and reinvested in their company.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-35489154444862106782009-11-04T15:05:02.899+01:002009-11-04T15:05:02.899+01:00Someone only knowing about World of Warcraft from ...Someone only knowing about World of Warcraft from your blog might get the impression it was all about making money. <br /><br />Well, it is not. It's about playing a game in a fantasy setting. <br /><br />If a player doesn't care about gold he is neither a moron nor a slacker. He simply enjoys a differen playstyle. <br /><br />Players selling you stuff without using the AH are not "minions" but simply sellers. They suplly something you demand. As you supply glyphs to people who demand them. I don't see how this might put you in a better position than them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-32997496156558792082009-11-04T13:52:38.170+01:002009-11-04T13:52:38.170+01:00fyi
I actually wasn't considering the "to...fyi<br />I actually wasn't considering the "to do or not to do", I was interested on what other people would do, my point on this has - as yours - been proved almost every post I make, If I can make profit, I don't care who I have to screw over.Sethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03762002397586862820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-88562306409801417492009-11-04T13:13:52.603+01:002009-11-04T13:13:52.603+01:00You are confusing machine time with man time, or a...You are confusing machine time with man time, or assuming that man:machine ratio has to be 1:1.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06652187754134794882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-82724697210180235622009-11-04T12:35:00.403+01:002009-11-04T12:35:00.403+01:00previous post was deleted. if you had read it, you...previous post was deleted. if you had read it, you wouldnt say what you say about elders or not.<br /><br />about afk time. when your boss tells you to stay at home waiting for a problem to happen he pays you even if there is no problem. afk time is worked time even if you are cleaning your room the same way it is when you clean your room waiting for your boss to call you.<br /><br />about mods. farming bots are not allowed, i think bots that automatize actions like posting in the AH or crafting or recovering the mail shoul be forbiden also. why? if you think it, you will find that both bots are exactly the same.<br /><br />what would you do gevlon if they forbid those kinds of mods? crash. crash... or work shit loads of hours, and then clean your room insted of meanwhile. lots of work, lots of benefits. your only advantage is that a mod works instead of you, but lots of work anyway. and in any other market (other than glyphs or enchanting) any competitor can make you fall into losts without you selling one single item if you try your strategy. then you would have to tell your mod to work more and still having losts (becaouse you post so low that the AH cut owns you). then, you and your competitor would be (both of you) working with losts, so you lose all your crappy advantage that you claim to have with your strategy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-15560554346988598902009-11-04T12:22:55.690+01:002009-11-04T12:22:55.690+01:00Having farmers can be rewarding for both sides of ...Having farmers can be rewarding for both sides of the agreement.<br /><br />However paying them well below the market price is not a good idea. They'll run away the second they know you are ripping them off.<br /><br />Just pay them the market price - 5%. It'll still make things a lot easier as you get a constant supply.Carrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11155709707982913637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-20338494559755277192009-11-04T11:59:29.571+01:002009-11-04T11:59:29.571+01:00@anonymous: Does being older give you the right to...@anonymous: Does being older give you the right to shit on others?<br />Why the hell should I respect someone older than me who has such a shitty attitude, if you are in fact older than me, which is something that neither of us can prove.<br /><br />And I think that you are missing the point that Gevlon makes with his crafting.<br />The way he does it, he is free to go afk and do something else, regardless of whether it is in wow or not. The way he sees his competition doing it, they have to sit on either the AH, the mailbox or their crafting queue every time they decide to undercut and does not give them the time to do anything else, in or out of wow.<br /><br />I don't see how you can fail to grasp the principle of what he is saying.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06652187754134794882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-34199065419183481242009-11-04T11:46:26.060+01:002009-11-04T11:46:26.060+01:00@lite: 5 mins a day, 500 gs a day. 5 min = 1/12 ho...@lite: 5 mins a day, 500 gs a day. 5 min = 1/12 hour. 6k gph. why the hell do you need more?<br /><br />20% of the effort gives you 80% of the proffit. craft 500 "afk hours" a day is useless. select what you craft, select smartly and dont be too greedy. you will not be gold caped but will have gold enough to buy whatever you want with nearly no time invested.<br /><br />if you take into account gevlons afk work he wont reach more tha 6k gph NEVER.<br /><br />btw, for those who thing that are very clever because you buy stacks 5% under market price and that your "minions" are dumbs. your "minions" are avoiding the AH cut wich is exactly 5%. they are loosing NOTHING. and maybe selling under 10% 20% market price would be worth the pain depending on what are you selling.<br /><br />im probably twice older than you. so stfu, and respect your elders.<br /><br />@gevlon: you can do your crappy strategy because you sell glyphs. to list the glyphs is nearly for free, you could never do this if the AH tax were higher enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-21639509031924415142009-11-04T10:39:49.266+01:002009-11-04T10:39:49.266+01:00I've been thinking about hiring a guildie who&...I've been thinking about hiring a guildie who's always complaining about not having gold. I'm mining/JC(450/455). So is he, but he's to lazy/doesn't have the resources to level his JC. How can i go about exploiting this? Do i buy his ore, prospect, keep the expensive gems, and give him the leveling ones for a discount? Or are there other strategies i can use?Tordenflesknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-4904015404245486782009-11-04T09:16:53.281+01:002009-11-04T09:16:53.281+01:00I sincerely hope there will be a second part to th...I sincerely hope there will be a second part to this post, expanding on the last 3 sentences.Niznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-65827819692058918082009-11-04T09:02:11.500+01:002009-11-04T09:02:11.500+01:00One guildie I pay by the stack way below market pr...One guildie I pay by the stack way below market price.<br />Yesterday I got another supplier by selling him a Nobles Deck. The deal being me selling him the deck @ 3800 and in return he would supply me with herbs below market price.<br />And still I'm in constant need of more herbs with my glyph/darkmoon card/flask business.Litenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-26074313929183233172009-11-04T08:46:58.142+01:002009-11-04T08:46:58.142+01:00Who says you have to pay them by the hour, I pay m...Who says you have to pay them by the hour, I pay my minions by the stack. <br /><br />They have the option, either they can put their items into the AH and risk being undercut, or risk it taking a week to sell, or risk capping the market and having to lower their prices to compete.<br /><br />Or they can sell every single stack to me @ 5-20% less than market (depending on what they're offering, the quantity, and the market structure of that particular industry)<br /><br />I've done this with quite a few friends, they seem happy to get a quick sale and rapid profits. (Some are even making upwards of 1000g a day farming for me), and I'm very happy with selling the processed goods.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-62167594849843326692009-11-04T07:41:20.282+01:002009-11-04T07:41:20.282+01:00Most people in game would refuse a per/hour salary...Most people in game would refuse a per/hour salary because they would feel like they are somehow being scammed/exploited.debussyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02659441493549929772noreply@blogger.com