tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post2834529560922033919..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: Why nullsec is stagnant despite mechanic changes?Gevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-76492893818121193962015-10-28T13:56:29.487+01:002015-10-28T13:56:29.487+01:00@Stan vanderVille dude you have no idea about hise...@Stan vanderVille dude you have no idea about hisec dwellers. Last thing they need is competition.<br /><br />@Gevlon As before, I will only agree with creation of PvE corp on one condition - members of said corp should not be able to set red safety in hisec. This is to prevent abuse of such corp by ganktards. Other than that issue, it's a go.<br /><br />Personally I'd forbid red safety in hisec for all NPC corps also, so that ganktards all should be in actually wardecable corp. Their main "we're already -10.0" argument is bs anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-91667377963888480882015-10-28T07:47:29.772+01:002015-10-28T07:47:29.772+01:00@Jeff: and who the hell would follow you? C1-4 dwe...@Jeff: and who the hell would follow you? C1-4 dwellers who only leave the POS shield when no one they've ever met is online?<br /><br />@Anonymous: that's an interesting point. EVE expect you to take the role of a pirate, empire builder, miner, whatever. But players only take the roles of "l33t PvPr" and "4 fun casual", making the EVE idea fail.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-58563517786369519792015-10-28T05:22:17.296+01:002015-10-28T05:22:17.296+01:00I wish wars were more about pushing other groups a...I wish wars were more about pushing other groups aside in secure space, rather than camp them into any and every station. I'd like to fight over resources, market access and territory over a limited space. I'd like wars that were just a handful of structures or customs offices at a time. If the structures had some future role in exploration, escalation and agents, I wouldn't mind seeing other people fight over those as well, although I probably would skip out on the lattermost. People need a little space and time to brush themselves off, regroup, and come up with a new plan of attack.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-15671771436616667032015-10-27T22:44:29.856+01:002015-10-27T22:44:29.856+01:00All kinds of people in all MMOs fall into two grou...All kinds of people in all MMOs fall into two groups; elitest tryhard and loveable underdogs.<br /><br />As much as these long-shot ideas might work, there's only one true driver of change in nullsec; newbie underdogs come in, get handheld by someone bigger, then either fall or become the next overdogs. I thought this might happen with brave but instead of PL handholding them like they did with TEST they instead just farmed them to death.<br /><br />There's simply one hope left for EVE that is 1) another newbie stampede into nullsec and 2) elitest offering help to them to fight the CFC rather than just mindless farming for a month.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-88458931919586544562015-10-27T22:14:04.134+01:002015-10-27T22:14:04.134+01:00Nullsec stagnation as you put it, is a matter of o...Nullsec stagnation as you put it, is a matter of opinion. Many groups seem to be finding alot of content quite easily in Nullsec, the problem is you have people who cry stagnation, because they can no longer blob out the sun or jump half way across the new eden in 5 minutes.<br /><br />Honestly this talk of stagnation is just that, Talk. in reality its a load of crap. Corporations need to learn to adapt to new meta's and adapt to different situations and mechanics instead of crying foul everytime CCP change something. I'm honestly sick and tired of listening to the bullshit about stagnation.<br /><br />If you can't find content or find your game getting boring, then your doing it wrong!CraZeDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11837411536263012724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-58853111925430113382015-10-27T20:02:43.053+01:002015-10-27T20:02:43.053+01:00@Jeff the point is that tying your logistics to nu...@Jeff the point is that tying your logistics to null would create more reasons to interact with them.<br /><br />It seems entirely reasonable to me to create a set of CT, "Transit" wormholes with special spawn rules that will provide funnels between the levels of space(and permit larger prey in and out), but also lack in system resource worth holding, and mostly serve as bottle necks and trade routes for logistics. I'm sure there's interesting graph properties you could enforce in their spawns that would enable this kind of thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-73970221609756340392015-10-27T19:00:56.425+01:002015-10-27T19:00:56.425+01:00In what universe is hauling in w-space safe? Every...In what universe is hauling in w-space safe? Every connection is a pipe, there are no aggression timers stopping someone from following you through to the other side and if you try to double back you get stuck because of polarization. Not to mention you never know if you're the only one in system or not or if that connection you're warping to even still exists. I've never felt safer than when I'm out and about in k-space. Local is such a safety blanket.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11334766438675156605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-450308263237957842015-10-27T16:15:44.594+01:002015-10-27T16:15:44.594+01:00Really good points, Gevlon. To make things more in...Really good points, Gevlon. To make things more interesting you need basically a outside community with strong bonds outside of the game (otherwise they are bought off to easily) who wants to achieve a clear goal in game, like with the examples you have given. A "anti-male" group would be really interesting, because that fits the criteria. Now we only have to gather enough females to support this idea AND to join EVE with the goal to wipe out the "patriarchy empires of nullsec.<br /><br />Sadly, I don't think this will work.Goon #124341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-3436953406982315942015-10-27T15:06:30.015+01:002015-10-27T15:06:30.015+01:00@Jeff: going to gank into nullsec but hauling safe...@Jeff: going to gank into nullsec but hauling safely in WH space is not cool. Go haul where you kill!Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-84050437151533005182015-10-27T14:43:19.820+01:002015-10-27T14:43:19.820+01:00"forcing top-WH dwellers to interact with nul..."forcing top-WH dwellers to interact with nullsec residents instead of only with other wormholers while hauling directly to highsec"<br /><br />To paraphrase Murray Rothbard, it is no crime to be ignorant of wormhole space, but it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on wormhole subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance.<br /><br />High class wormhole PvP corps spend most of their time PvPing in low or null sec through connections they find in their chain. The only reason we scan all the way down to the lower class wormholes is to find exits into k-space for logistics.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11334766438675156605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-90049370783670147132015-10-27T13:00:14.722+01:002015-10-27T13:00:14.722+01:001) Raven levellers have problem with null, as they...1) Raven levellers have problem with null, as they cannot do things alone. You need eyes, watch local and intel. Sometimes you need to dump whatever you do and protect the system. Then , there is no content coming to you 23/7 .. one day you can rat in peace, the other you would have 10 reds coming for gudfites or few hundred men fighting in your system. Also, some guy will be yelling at you that you are not in right ship, and other will comment about your billion pod in slasher. Also, you cannot just go to jita to buy stuff you need now. Not to mention, you would need to actually contact with people .... Assuming you want real null corp/alliance and not renters. <br /><br />2) Russians have long memories, especially in "we were fighting with hostile and you have not joined". .. or even worse, sided with enemy. More systems to rent out is just a plus (especially right now in insmother, where there is one good rentable constellation,and 2 or 3 so-so). Also, flying with them it is clear that they are much more goal oriented than westerners, though with very few FC to run their fleet, give out ships and manage serfs .. which mean it is either 300+ fleet or nothing. Very feudalistic. Explains why they hate fozziesov too.<br /> <br />Anyway , null as it is, it's lots of work. From herding cats to playing "not being eaten by local big guy" diplo work. Goons succeed, because they streamlined the process for large amount of players, removing the nastier parts from the game altogether. Other alliances seem to be either to culturally different to do that or just their leaders cannot be arsed to actually make something that works, preferring cheap ego games over structure.Lukenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-40180457370669705672015-10-27T11:45:20.305+01:002015-10-27T11:45:20.305+01:00I wonder if this "stagnation" is really ...I wonder if this "stagnation" is really felt by nullsec players at the low level.<br />High-level stagnation does not necessarily mean lack of interesting play for individual pilots who are not industry mongers, powerbloc-movers. The way you described russians - they seem to be having a lot of fun :D<br /><br />I fully agree that highsec Raven levellers could use a fresh way forward, though.maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-46142787615030840952015-10-27T10:11:40.153+01:002015-10-27T10:11:40.153+01:00"Hire some high-profile internet feminist to ..."Hire some high-profile internet feminist to run a "pwn all sexist men in EVE" corp."<br /><br />One of the best ideas ever occured in metagaming. After CCP hiring Katee Sackhoff for the sci-fi fan male audience, the girls of EVE Online should get a treat too. Not sure a feminist is the best approach, but something for the girls would be nice.<br /><br />But a feminist corp with its own propaganda site would be some of the best content in the game.<br /><br />I would join your corp with my HS alt too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-84252427187710924402015-10-27T08:28:13.383+01:002015-10-27T08:28:13.383+01:00"Allow non-wardeccable, no-structure PvE corp..."Allow non-wardeccable, no-structure PvE corporations in highsec, so the currently solo carebears could unite and form forces that can go make history instead of quitting after finishing leveling their Raven alone. I promise that if it happens, I make such corp and create content to hundreds of people myself."<br /><br />I am waiting for this corp for quite some time now and I would love to be a part of it.Amarr-Zonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-41391100791045324032015-10-27T08:19:38.775+01:002015-10-27T08:19:38.775+01:00I like the first 3 ideas a lot.
Definitively new c...I like the first 3 ideas a lot.<br />Definitively new content, new way of gameplay.<br />It will retract players from other activities, but provide content.<br />But now to the ideas, how to attrackt new players in general, so, increase the total playerbase. You already mentioned earlier kind of arena games or some shiny highsec PvE rewards. In my opinion highsec is getting boring sooner or later for the PvE guys because no visible competition is possible. Give them ranking lists or a PvE killboard or corp wealth competition or something like that. And highsec need things which are worth fighting about (Ice anoms only if you have a pos nearby?)...<br /><br />But for myself i'm already always happy, to see a new doctrine going live or if a devblog shakes up market and brings me to the winning side :-)Stan vanderVillenoreply@blogger.com