tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post2074685648216922175..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: Kim Jong Un, the reasonable and wise politicianGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-66223458998428295772017-04-17T23:14:43.210+02:002017-04-17T23:14:43.210+02:00@Gevlon
Oh, you and I could have a lengthy discus...@Gevlon<br /><br />Oh, you and I could have a lengthy discussion on why the U.S. for the last 24-28 years has royally messed up the wars we have engaged in. It really boils down to using real and legit reasons for going to war and then stretching it out so that special interest groups gain maximum profit on it. Resources are not a big deal when you can increase the taxes on 325 million people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-27441989988539887422017-04-17T23:12:23.512+02:002017-04-17T23:12:23.512+02:00@Gevlon 2 of 2
On a separate note, the attack on ...@Gevlon 2 of 2<br /><br />On a separate note, the attack on Saddam was not entirely about nukes. He had weapons of mass destruction (chemical and biological) and he had used them multiple times. The biggest reason for going into Iraq was to prevent his two sons from taking control of the country. Both were very unstable and since Saddam appointed his youngest as his successor, there would have been civil war (because in Arab culture the oldest inherits the leadership position but Saddam's oldest was too unstable and Saddam gave that position to is youngest son).<br /><br />The other part is economic stability. Iraq is an oil rich nation near other oil rich nations. Disrupting the flow of oil at that time would have massive negative, global effect. This is not about the U.S. getting the oil but making sure the global market got the oil. Europe and China specifically would have had severe issues economically if there was an oil shortage due to Iraq attacking Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, or other nearby oil producing countries. The backlash would have hit the U.S. since we rely on China for cheap manufactured goods and Europe for other trade. <br /><br />The real issue with the second Iraq war is that Bush Jr. made the colossal mistake of disbanding the Iraqi military instead of incorporating it and building up the country. That is why we are still there and why ISIL is around now. The forever war mentality of Neocons is pretty disturbing but real.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-39967593899151431862017-04-17T23:03:45.294+02:002017-04-17T23:03:45.294+02:00@Gevlon: 1 of 2
Assad has every reason to use gas...@Gevlon: 1 of 2<br /><br />Assad has every reason to use gas. The biggest reason is because he does not have a large army anymore and cannot afford to lose troops in a ground war. Gassing opposition and ISIL ground forces allows him to create maximum casualties with no loss. That is why his army does not fully defend areas if they believe that they are going to lose the fight or take on too many casualties. He just doesn't have the human resources to fight a conventional war against both ISIL and opposition forces.<br /><br />Trump has the information the the CIA, NSA, NGA, DIA, and other intelligence agencies give him. I will agree that in some areas, there are issues and bias but with the totality of information presented to him, he can actually made very informed decisions.<br /><br />Those organizations were inept because they have zero enforcement capabilities. <br /><br />I agree with your assessment of Libya. Godoffi was a terrible person but complied completely after Saddam was removed. However, his removal was a policy decision under a different administration and not under Trump. My personal belief is that Obama was anti colonialism and was supporting the Arab Spring movement to remove the last vestiges of colonialism (Western approved governments) in the Middle East. There is/was absolutely no reason for Obama to support opposition in Syria. Syria was the only country aside from Israel to be a modern, western leaning (culturally), secular government. Sadly we are cleaning up that mess.<br /><br />Russia actually has far more to gain in working with Trump and his administration. Easing or removing sanctions would be huge, trading with the United States would also be significant, and the current U.S. administration has zero desire to expand U.S. influence outside of trade deals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-88373023293292868732017-04-16T21:43:47.747+02:002017-04-16T21:43:47.747+02:00@Anon: Assad had zero reasons to use gas. The Russ...@Anon: Assad had zero reasons to use gas. The Russians had zero reason to allow Assad to have any gas that is good for nothing but trouble. I do not blame the ISIS and the opposition with the gas attack, I blame the USA Deep state. <br /><br />Trump has the information that the CIA puts to his desk. The same CIA that spied on him for months. <br /><br />3: then maybe the USA could put some life into such organizations. They are inept exactly because they became pointless next to the repeated US violations.<br /><br />4: It's true that if Kim wouldn't be so aggressive, the USA would have reason to care. But the USA had no reason to care about Libya either. The USA seems to attack countries for absolutely no reason. I accept that the situation is bizarre: The USA would attack an unarmed Kim for no reason, but against an armed Kim they have absolutely valid reason to attack.<br /><br />5: being not totally unhinged and killing Russian soldiers isn't something I would commend.<br /><br />Russia has much less reason to work with the USA than ever. There is no reason to work with anyone who acts unreasonably and without interest. Which is exactly what the USA is doing for the last 15 years. Attacking Saddam for non-existent nukes and then NOT taking his oil is pants on head retarded. The US gained absolutely nothing from that campaign and even less from Afghanistan, Somalia, Libya and Syria. It seems a bunch of ideologically driven madman are setting the US foreign policy: "we must liberate everyone from tyranny"Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-32371527534528182332017-04-16T18:33:26.314+02:002017-04-16T18:33:26.314+02:00@Maxim
That is not correct. The U.S colonies sta...@Maxim<br /><br />That is not correct. The U.S colonies started with cooperation with some indigenous tribes who were at war with other tribes (Iroquoi vs. Algonquins as an example). Expanding further out did cause conflict but those indigenous tribes were not innocent by any means. Many of them had killed off rival tribes before the American colonies were even a thing, in order to have larger hunting grounds or just a hatred for the rival tribe that stemmed generations. Further west you can see similar results with the Blackfeet, Souix, and Flathead tribes. <br /><br />Basically you cant really peg a universally adopted practice to one group and say that because that group did it they are therefor bad, when the other groups would have done the same thing. I am not saying that things were all peachy and fun. I am just saying that you are condemning one group for actions that all the groups in the area were guilty of, because that one group won.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-44557747292361647722017-04-16T18:25:04.028+02:002017-04-16T18:25:04.028+02:00@Gevlon (2 of 2)
4). Kim Jong Un is far from bein...@Gevlon (2 of 2)<br /><br />4). Kim Jong Un is far from being reasonable and wise. If he were to cease antagonizing the U.S. and our nearby allies, the U.S. wouldn't care about North Korea. It is an economic drain maintaining a military force in South Korea and deposing a non-hostile/antagonistic North Korea would serve no purpose. However, by threatening Japan and South Korea, North Korea threatens the U.S. economy. Many goods and technologies come from those two countries and a lot of Americans are employed by companies that are from Japan and South Korea. That is the first issue. The second issue is that we have treaties with those two countries that have been around for decades and we are legally obligated to uphold to those treaties.<br /><br />As for Kim Jong Un. The best example of him going off on the deep end is to review China's response to North Korea. They have never threatened North Korea and have always backed them when it came to the United States. This has changed drastically in the past few months. China has openly criticized North Korea and even threatened to get militarily involved because of their actions. This is because China no longer sees North Korea as having a stable leadership and worth backing. Instead they see North Korea as being unstable and a liability. <br /><br />To add to that, China also sees a United States that is willing to work with China in fixing the situation, which means China can support a pro-China government if Kim Jong Un is deposed. To add to all that, the situation in North Korea is pretty abysmal. The level of brainwashing that has gone on in that country is astounding and the human rights violations off the charts.<br /><br />5). Everything that has happened recently has been done with precision. The air strike on Syria was done with enough forewarning that military assets and persons were evacuated from the airbase and ONLY the airbase that launched the chemical attacks was hit. Nothing else was targeted. After the air strike in Syria, the United States told Russia that we wanted to work with them concerning Syria instead of pushing them away. The positioning of military assets to Korea are designed to shoot down any missiles that would be fired off and to conduct a precision strike on the facility testing a nuclear weapon or firing off a long range missile.<br /><br />At face value I can understand where people are coming from when they think that everything is be done rashly and without thought but if you look at what each action achieves on the global political spectrum, you can see what is being attempted. An example of this is the actions on North Korea showing Russia that if Syria continues, we will head shot them faster than Russia can react. Will we do that? Probably not but it shows Russia that we are not pussyfooting around anymore and that we want Russia to come to the table and work with us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-34404586702562047142017-04-16T18:24:37.874+02:002017-04-16T18:24:37.874+02:00@Gevlon (1 of 2)
1). The European immigrant probl...@Gevlon (1 of 2)<br /><br />1). The European immigrant problem is actually caused by European immigration policy. They have had a very relaxed stance on immigration due to their declining population and births. In order to keep their social welfare system going, they need more, younger people to work and provide tax money. The biggest problem is not that they are letting immigrants in but letting too many in at once. This creates a situation where the immigration population does not assimilate into the host country but rather, they form their own mini society with very different cultural properties that clash with the host country's culture.<br /><br />2). Assad did use Sarin gas. ISIL does not have Sarin gas and never did. They and the opposition only have Chlorine gas. The Syrian Regime was known to have Sarin gas prior to their decommissioning of chemical weapons. The decommissioning part is what people have not really dived into further. Russia 'oversaw' the decommissioning of those chemical weapons and vouched for Syria. There was no international oversight at all on the matter and people just took their word for it.<br /><br />What we know for sure is that Assad had Sarin gas in the past, it was not verified that he actually got rid of it, and the planes used in the bombing of Idlib were capable of dropping Sarin Gas bombs. I am sure that Trump has access to more information than you and I do and responded based on the information he received.<br /><br />3). The International Community and the bodies that are supposed to handle genocide and war crimes are incredibly inept. The biggest example would be the international bodies accusing ISIL for genocide on the Yazidis but not doing anything to stop it. The actual enforcement and handling of such accusations really fall on the shoulders of the individual countries, many of whom won't do anything about it. The United States though typically does work on handling those situations. <br /><br />The U.S. is limited by politics, social approval, and economic stability in order to do more. Example of this is Rowanda. The U.S. didn't provide much assistance there because there was very little political and social support within the U.S. to do so. Also, there was no economic stability factor that could have been used as a reason. The economic stability factor is often misconstrued as a means for the U.S. to get resources from a country but that isn't usually the case. With Iraq, global economic stability with concerns to oil output was a huge factor. The U.S. didn't get the lucrative oil deals from engaging the war, mostly Europe and China did. But what this caused was a stable, global oil market so places like Europe and China had greater access. That allows their productivity to be maintained and the intertwined global economy was protected.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-92179067250351004892017-04-14T08:53:07.196+02:002017-04-14T08:53:07.196+02:00@Gevlon
I think Soviet insignias are fine and can ...@Gevlon<br />I think Soviet insignias are fine and can stay. If this means Eastern European countries will be nervous - better them nervous than us cutting out five generations of history. Not in the least, because then we will be forced to relive those - that'she just how history works.<br /><br />ISIS is not a concern of Poland on this scenario. EU is the concern. And, like I said, SS parades are revolting to me, but here they will prevent Poland from accepting any sort of migration quotas.<br /><br />@Anon<br />I'm with Gevlon on this. US does not have a track record of taking any sort of care for people living on occupied territories.<br /><br />This shouldn't come as any surprise. Their history started with genocide of indigenous people. Stuff like that doesn't just go away.maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-61941303321212172252017-04-13T06:28:03.058+02:002017-04-13T06:28:03.058+02:00@Anon: no you don't understand.
I prefer to be...@Anon: no you don't understand.<br />I prefer to be a CITIZEN of the US or Germany over Russia or Turkey, because the former countries offer "western" values for their citizens, while the latter expect silent cooperation<br /><br />I prefer to be OCCUPIED by Russia or Turkey over US or Germany, because the former countries offer life and safety for those who serve in silence, while the latter offer nothing but failed states, chaos and headcutting.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-89036646086978957222017-04-12T22:22:28.022+02:002017-04-12T22:22:28.022+02:00@Gevlon -
Alright, I understand, you see no bene...@Gevlon - <br /><br />Alright, I understand, you see no benefit in general in democracy, freedom of speech, etc. and all other common "western" values. You prefer dictatorship as far as it is able to handle the country, one way or another - via murder, lies, corruption, etc. who cares, as long as it gives result.<br /><br />Russia is obvious choice then of course. Though I believe North Korea fits this model you prefer perfectly fine as well.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-6822862504672979232017-04-12T21:42:09.861+02:002017-04-12T21:42:09.861+02:00@Anon: I don't know enough about North Korea t...@Anon: I don't know enough about North Korea to answer. But the Russia vs America is not trolling. If you believe it is, go to Iraq and live there!Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-90054746741444522572017-04-12T21:15:48.307+02:002017-04-12T21:15:48.307+02:00@Gevlon - "I'd much rather have Russian o...@Gevlon - "I'd much rather have Russian occupation than American."<br /><br />You are trolling, right? Let's go to more extreme - American or North Korea occupation?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-75590186656217490082017-04-12T10:48:59.586+02:002017-04-12T10:48:59.586+02:00@Maxim: indeed. Many insignias of nazism and commu...@Maxim: indeed. Many insignias of nazism and communism persisted which cause great concern in people. <br /><br />But here is the reason why ISIS is a concern to Poland: http://bbj.hu/politics/hungary-may-face-eu-quota-ultimatum-says-report_131096Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-13705505918323411142017-04-12T10:38:41.772+02:002017-04-12T10:38:41.772+02:00@Gevlon
Just as Poland needs Russia to prove itsel...@Gevlon<br />Just as Poland needs Russia to prove itself to them, we need the West to prove itself to us. The situation is made more complex by the fact that we are not going to bother proving anything to Poland as long as they think parading around SS veterans as "heroes that fought against Soviet occupation" is a cool thing to do. Apparently, the West will feel the same as long as Lenin is in the mausoleum.<br /><br />In an odd twist of events, the very same SS parades will offer them a measure of protection against ISIS and will prevent them from accumilating any significant sort of islamic political presence. So i don't think ISIS is much of a concern to them.maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-57029680116808535402017-04-12T10:22:59.638+02:002017-04-12T10:22:59.638+02:00@maxim: seeing Western Nationalism as any sort of ...@maxim: seeing Western Nationalism as any sort of Nazism is just as wrong as "Russian nationalism = Stalinism"<br /><br />Poland doesn't need to feel warm. The EU/US will force them to take Muslim migrants who will do what they are already doing in the West (hint: bombs, trucks, knives). So the choices of Poland will be: "Russian tanks on our streets or ISIS head-choppers on our streets". You are right, that they will take this deal grudgingly, with a great deal of bad faith and will seek to defect on it at any convenient point. But from that point it's up to Russia to prove itself a good partner worthy of good faith. You have to admit that they have historic reasons to be in doubt.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-86310552518468773552017-04-12T08:07:14.713+02:002017-04-12T08:07:14.713+02:00@Gevlon
I don't have any sort of good opinion ...@Gevlon<br />I don't have any sort of good opinion towards Le Pen, because of bad blood between Russia and mid-European ultranationalism. Basically i fully expect her (and/or hers) to devolve into Nazis, given time. It would be nice to be surprised, of course, but i'm not betting on it.<br /><br />I wouldn't expect Poland to ever feel warm towards Russia. Basically they feel the same way towards us the same way we feel towards european nationalism, only they have done so for the better half of the last millenium and i don't expect it to change in the future. For example, they are the ones who stand to directly gain the most from Ukranian conflict. Should circumstances every force Poland to accept any sort of deals with Russia, they will do so grudgingly, with a great deal of bad faith and will seek to defect on it at any convenient point.<br /><br />Anti-immigrant is not the same as pro-Russian, but i guess this is grounds for some deals to be made.maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-46743890327641182152017-04-12T06:28:01.485+02:002017-04-12T06:28:01.485+02:00@maxim: Slovakia and Poland are both vehemently an...@maxim: Slovakia and Poland are both vehemently anti-immigrant. While they are worried about Russia (especially Poland), but they will soon have to choose between EU/NATO and getting a couple hundred thousand Islamist immigrants. http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/708405/Brexit-revolt-Eastern-European-countries-Merkel-migrant-policy-politics<br /><br />Czechs are both anti-immigrant and open to Russian partnership: https://euobserver.com/opinion/133789 It's mostly because of a CIA coup there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Czech_political_corruption_scandal<br /><br />You probably heard of Marine Le Pen, the frontrunner of the French election: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/24/europe/putin-le-pen-kremlin/Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-58027531976738730482017-04-12T05:44:03.097+02:002017-04-12T05:44:03.097+02:00@Gevlon
Seems like i need to catch up on Hungarian...@Gevlon<br />Seems like i need to catch up on Hungarian politics. Any neighbours of Hungary that feel similarly?<br /><br />The US (or rather, the globalist superstate that is forming on its basis. As far as i'm concerned, actual US died with the Kennedy brothers) is indeed trying to get everything.<br />Russia is one of the major things preventing it from getting everything.maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-88509926868784352962017-04-11T21:09:36.467+02:002017-04-11T21:09:36.467+02:00@Maxim: My PM thinks very similarly as I do (no, I...@Maxim: My PM thinks very similarly as I do (no, I don't claim credit here) and already is the boogieman of the EUrocrats. He locked down the borders from their beloved immigrants, he invited Putin when everyone were yelling "aggressor" (he repeated it just 2 months ago: http://www.euronews.com/2017/02/02/budapest-s-warm-welcome-for-russian-president-putin), he resisted US pressure to liberalize the constitution, right now he is kicking out the university of Soros, despite all the EU is screaming. Don't give up on the hope that we'll be allies within a few years.<br /><br />The US people aren't peace-loving bunnies. They are disappointed people who struggle with their bills and mortgage, while their taxes were taken for stupid wars with zero results and got their sons back in flag covered pine boxes. I'm sure they'd love glorious victories, but they didn't get any in the last decade and now they'd settle with peace.<br /><br />@Константин Скрябин so did the Hungarian communists (68 invasion of Slovakia). I don't want communism back, but Putin is far from communist.<br /><br />@Anon: easy question, I'd much rather have Russian occupation than American. <br /><br />You mix US occupation with US citizenship. I would rather be US citizen than Russian, but that option isn't on the table. When Russia invaded Crimea, the people got Russian citizenship. When Iraq was invaded by the US, they got a failed state. I would much rather live in Crimea than Iraq.<br /><br />The main reason why my country is behind the Western ones is Communism. You might noticed that I don't like any kind of socialist politics and I'm strictly pro-business.<br /><br />I would take a "brutal, ancient, hardcore, cunning" leader any day over a "naive with good intentions" one. So does everyone in Syria.<br /><br />@Maxim again: you ARE paranoid. The US isn't trying to get Russia. They are trying to get EVERYTHING!<br />Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-4727849447839366602017-04-11T20:21:21.324+02:002017-04-11T20:21:21.324+02:00To the above comment: Russia has GDP per capita li...To the above comment: Russia has GDP per capita like 30% less than EU average: not a big difference, which could be explained by a variety of factors, not necessarily political structure of now dissolved USSR. E.g., harsh climate alone can account for that (for instance, same climate zone in Canada is almost uninhabited). <br /><br />Saudi Arabia GDP is like 1.5 time more than EU, but you probably wouldn't say that their political structure is superior. Also, age of empires (e.g., early 20th century) saw similar difference in GDP between Europe and Russia. <br /> <br /><br />Source on GDP numbers: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/resources/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html#rs Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05895783637306252392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-77916644190058867302017-04-11T19:37:21.583+02:002017-04-11T19:37:21.583+02:00@Anon
The "external enemy" pretense woul...@Anon<br />The "external enemy" pretense would hold up if even one year passed without the West going back on its own word and starting yet another war suspiciously close to our borders.<br />We may be paranoid, but this does not logically exclude the possibility that someone is indeed out to get us.<br /><br />Also, if Putin is not "the saviour", then who is? Navalniy? Don't make my socks laugh.maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-53078004648709152422017-04-11T18:40:27.891+02:002017-04-11T18:40:27.891+02:00@Gevlon:
That was a good example about occupation...@Gevlon:<br /><br />That was a good example about occupation of your country. If you had a choice, would you choose to be occupied by Russia, or US?<br /><br />All the bullshit and politics aside, just look at it simply, where do ordinary working people live better lives - in US/Western world (led by the "liberals" who you hate so much), or "Russia alike" countries you like so much - Russia itself, North Korea, Venezuela, Syria, etc.<br /><br />Me, living in a country which was occupied at some point by Soviet Union know exactly what I would prefer. And majority of people here, who experienced the life "then" and "now" know.<br /><br />Could you tell me the main reason why your country at the moment is living worse than your neighbor countries, choose any, which were never affiliated with Soviet/Russia block.<br /><br />I agree, the problem with USA/Western block is that they get carried with their liberal ideas too far, they apply their thinking/behavior model to all the other countries and get surprised when this does not work. Russia is more brutal, ancient, hardcore, cunning - call it any way you want, so they get along with countries which are more barbaric, to say so.<br /><br />So, maybe US/Western world are doing wrong things, though I believe they do so because they are just naive, their true intentions might be actually good. If not, they do it for their own economic interests, oil and such - anyway, money. That's it, they really do not care about Russia at all.<br /><br />Now, why Russia is doing that? Well, I believe they just need an enemy to keep the population minds busy. If there were no enemies everywhere, why the hell we are living so bad? Maybe our government is actually just a bunch of thieves, or are doing something wrong? No, Putin is our savior, all the things that are fucked up in our country is Obama/Trump's fault. Classic. So they are trying to do anything to piss US/Western world of - so when Western world finally reacts somehow (and usually they fail to react properly, being so naive), Putin has a perfect picture of the enemy to waive in front of zombie population (already formed by mass-media controlled by himself), to keep his popularity up.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-85682556135725986402017-04-11T16:27:36.101+02:002017-04-11T16:27:36.101+02:00I'm Russian citizen, and I'd like to remin...I'm Russian citizen, and I'd like to remind you that Soviets actually meddled into other countries affairs under similar ideological pretenses, e.g., USSR brutally suppressed Hungarian rebellion in the 1950s with a justification that they are restoring "power to simple people" etc. <br /><br />But maybe precisely because of that modern-day Russia is "inoculated" from participating in foreign conflicts when no country self-interest is at stake.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05895783637306252392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-67822152037541130572017-04-11T16:01:55.933+02:002017-04-11T16:01:55.933+02:00@Gevlon
With all due respect, you are a very minor...@Gevlon<br />With all due respect, you are a very minor opinion leader and i can't really imagine anyone of your disposition coming to actual power in EU within the next generation or two.<br /><br />Also, there are reports of Trump getting more popular support after Syrian attacks. So i wouldn't idealise US people as some sort of peace-loving bunnies.<br /><br />Either way, what i'm saying is that the amount resources required to get rid of US-Russia hostility is simply not worth any sort of reward we'll get out of it. Furthermore, we went down that route once when we gave up USSR. The decades that followed made it clear that you don't give up power for favour, because you'll have neither.maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-30826298447032464772017-04-11T12:00:47.779+02:002017-04-11T12:00:47.779+02:00The political situation is a bit different in both...The political situation is a bit different in both Lithuania and Estonia, they are currently far less radical and far more reasonable than the current government of Ukraine. If pro-Western Ukrainian government would be let have their way with Crimea, there would be a lot of anti-Russian military presence there (some Ukrainian radicals explicitly stated territorial claims for Kuban).<br /><br />Ukraine can still station missiles in Chernihiv which is far closer to Russia than Crimea (or some other place), but it's hard, Ukraine has more pressing matters at their hands and Russia now could solve such situation if that happened without formally crossing the border with its army.<br /><br />Also, I was a bit lazy and forgot to mention access to Black Sea in Crimea.<br /><br />Summary: regardless of the missile argument (where I indeed failed, e.g. missile flight time is > than 2 minutes) Crimea is a place of extreme geopolitical and strategical importance.<br /><br />Regarding Trump, I considered twitter and such being just alternative media, totally under control of the account's owner. I meant that every politician in the democratic world is still dependent on "looking good". What Trump did is decided to look good in front of DIFFERENT audience (not in front of his loyal supporters who expected him to MAGA and are disappointed now just like you).<br /><br />Yes, this looks like a stupid move. But my point was not to call it brilliant. My point was to say that this is NOT starting a war so far. Yes, it's worse than if he'd just let Syria be. Still it's better than really causing serious troubles to Syria, which he clearly didn't want and isn't doing. Well... yet.<br /><br />@Anon: no, we are not talking about Russia being "right" on anything. We're talking that Russia annexed Crimea because it didn't want armed mess near Russian borders, while the US created armed mess in Libya, Syria, etc because of reasons that have nothing to do with anything like "protecting the US from having armed mess near US' borders".Antzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09627061373959554553noreply@blogger.com