tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post8349828791348873535..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: Blame the healer not Blizzard!Gevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-27721312422497918812010-11-29T11:59:32.692+01:002010-11-29T11:59:32.692+01:00You are totally wrong on the game getting harder o...You are totally wrong on the game getting harder only for tanks/healers. Health pools are hugely boosted for pvp reasons (again), the fires you need not to stand in can actually kill you now in Cata, according to beta testers. When tanks and healers have so hard you need to CC, it's usually a DPS's job to do. So it's harder for the dps aswell.<br />The part about Farmville is right, I like to compare LK to Farmville, it's about the same difficulty on normal level.Péter Zoltánhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01703829981771783158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-85239420900197571502010-11-24T14:51:15.291+01:002010-11-24T14:51:15.291+01:00Grab up midlevel and Outlands herbs for the first ...Grab up midlevel and Outlands herbs for the first few days, before everyone figures out the new supply and demand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-6237567006288636672010-11-24T08:51:06.199+01:002010-11-24T08:51:06.199+01:00The one thing you also neglected to mention Gevlon...The one thing you also neglected to mention Gevlon, is the regional battlegroup mergers that are occurring. I don't know if this will affect the EU as much as it is the US, but the pool for M&S for random LFG's is actually going to increase as these mergers come online.<br /><br />The tank and healer shortage will continue only because the M&S are exactly that: and typicaly "Tank not fun lulz" and "hilz sucksors" etc is why the M&S don't play them. Apart from the fact that they lack the capacity to, they also see them in randoms and look at it and think "OMG, tankz and hilz is work! Fuck that shit." What they don't realise is that its only work when we have M&S in the party...<br /><br />Possibly one really interesting thing is how Bioware have solved this issue with SW:TOR. Well not solved it as such, but how SW:TOR will fail more than WoW does. See in WoW the tank/heal classes are just classes. In TOR, its Jedi and Sith who are the tanks and healer classes only...<br /><br />I don't know what would be worse: M&S dps or M&S tanks/heals because "Im Darth Vader lulz," is being said by DarthVaderlulz who is your tank or heals..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-56503928940305443142010-11-24T08:48:23.336+01:002010-11-24T08:48:23.336+01:00@ Ephemeron
"3. As if that wasn't bad en...@ Ephemeron<br /><br />"3. As if that wasn't bad enough, quite a few heroic encounters were initially highly overtuned. An example of this is the pull with 4 Felguard Annihilators near the end of Heroic Blood Furnace. They randomly and unpredictably dropped aggro, and their damage was high enough to one-shot a cloth wearer in full ilvl115 gear with a single autoattack crit."<br /><br />This was my favourite part of all heroics, as a Prot Paladin. We'd kite the first two Felguards up the ramp, I'd used an exo to tag them, then cast "Holy Fear" on the second, when the tagge'd mob got to me I'd stun it, we'd nuke it down, then kill the other one without any problems. <br /><br />Then off to the room where there was four, it was pissible to skip one pack but if I remember, the caster could fear causing a wipe, no one interupted in heroics abck then!<br /><br />So I'd grab the whole room, fear one to pull, then hit 'Holy Wrath' and 'Concecrate/Holy shield.'<br /><br />I developed this strategy when a walock who was in the group that summond me (They begged for a tank in /2) announced that I didnt have enough 'HP' and left.<br /><br />I loved proving people wrong that you didn't need to be a warrior with 12K+ HP to tank heroics. I had my dungeon blue set and was proud.<br /><br />WotLK stole my underdog fame away from me, LFD tool stole away my constant /w 'Wanna tank Kurt?<br /><br />I used to be able to raid etc the second I logged on every day, weeks afetr hitting 70 without being in a raiding guild.<br /><br />LFD stole my speed runs away fro me :(<br /><br />This happen to anyone else?<br /><br />KurtizzleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-45417087865775524902010-11-24T06:41:24.357+01:002010-11-24T06:41:24.357+01:00Just a comment about one point. I don't think ...Just a comment about one point. I don't think standing in the fire will suddenly become feasible. Blizz raised the hp cap to make healing more interesting on damage they EXPECT the raid to take. They do not have to expect you to stand in the fire. If everyone has 150k hp now, there is no reason the fire can't do 50-80k hp/sec in damage. It's easy enough to make you durable if you are doing your job right but dead if you are not.<br /><br />Anything is better than the current healing model. Tanking in H ICC is annoying with the yo-yo health bars.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-60768049592716446612010-11-24T01:51:08.002+01:002010-11-24T01:51:08.002+01:00Regarding Ink:
Jessica Sellers is still trading i...Regarding Ink:<br /><br />Jessica Sellers is still trading inks in Dalaran. however, the currency is "Blackfallow Ink".<br /><br />It's too late for us in the US, but if you have time in EU, balance your ink by trading "Ink of the Sea" while you can.<br /><br />-CapAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-22296713912611033212010-11-24T00:35:21.952+01:002010-11-24T00:35:21.952+01:00I can confirm that the Ink Trader requires Blackfa...I can confirm that the Ink Trader requires Blackfallow Ink nowAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05826851734240791247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-50058916479514511142010-11-23T22:42:01.717+01:002010-11-23T22:42:01.717+01:00I disagree, on extremely low drop rates instead of...I disagree, on extremely low drop rates instead of very-grindy epics, because you know dps players will just need roll on those, so there goes your incentive for tanks/healersrafanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-53592469875300713952010-11-23T21:03:36.429+01:002010-11-23T21:03:36.429+01:00@Dangphat:
I agree but instead of adding expensive...@Dangphat:<br />I agree but instead of adding expensive stuff that you must grind hundreds of hcs to buy I think they should add very good items that drop at an extremely low drop rate; this would have the same aggregated effect.Yggnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-34194960193736070322010-11-23T19:48:58.203+01:002010-11-23T19:48:58.203+01:00But where does this leave the competent but asocia...But where does this leave the competent but asocial players who simply enjoy the dps aspect of the game and are reluctant to reroll tank/healer themselves? They are very likely to fall out of favour of many competent tanks/healers, who would rather carry their incompetent but "fun" friends.<br /><br />P.S. The correct expression is "between a rock and a hard place"Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08691528306629873885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-26674457454647427092010-11-23T19:43:02.615+01:002010-11-23T19:43:02.615+01:00As with any popular pastime you can never please a...As with any popular pastime you can never please all of the people all of the time.<br /><br />Take for example football (soccer) a very popular pastime which people love to debate endlessly, especially when they change some minor rule. <br /><br />The same is true for WoW, whatever Blizzard do it will be controversial for some. But as your post illustrates there will always be those that blame the ref or the manager but never stop supporting "their" club. It might even be what they subconsciously enjoy about the game (wow or soccer).chewynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-31184101883102859962010-11-23T18:11:21.459+01:002010-11-23T18:11:21.459+01:00So it's back to the "don't pug" ...So it's back to the "don't pug" days, and receiving 10 whispers when logging on "hi, up for healing heroic x?". Great.Caramaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-82121378264261629282010-11-23T18:09:31.387+01:002010-11-23T18:09:31.387+01:00You didn't consider two things:
- archeology ...You didn't consider two things:<br /><br />- archeology gives epics and cool stuff, they'll be busy with that<br /><br />- battlegrounds can entirely gear you up (weapons too) like it was in tbc, if pve is too hard they'll just grind pvp to be "geared"<br /><br />That's until the first content patch when people in tier12 will be back boosting bads using lfg tool.Nerdragernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-44928992945926841462010-11-23T17:51:30.168+01:002010-11-23T17:51:30.168+01:00I plan to do a whole lot less Random groups and a ...I plan to do a whole lot less Random groups and a lot more premade groups. Pimp myself out as a tank if I have to, and learn to be a dreaded social... but I will enjoy my game experience that much more, i'm sure.<br /><br />I really liked the Random Dungeon finder at first, but as a tank and with the newly harder tanking, its just more irritating than anything to get into a group that sucks and doesn't pay attention when they play. People need to learn their role as a class in any group, and understand that it is VERY different than playing solo... <br /><br />HA, like that will happen...Nikodhemushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02165891420642892313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-49728512477229813642010-11-23T17:33:05.028+01:002010-11-23T17:33:05.028+01:00WoW was so awesome in vanilla and Burning Crusade....WoW was so awesome in vanilla and Burning Crusade. But it's turned into something weird and smelly since then, that I do not even recognize. It's almost like they took the best people from the WoW team and sent them to work on the "other" Blizzard MMO. I think WoW is a lot like Farmville now because both are things I would not pay money for. When I saw that Cataclysm would cost 40 dollars I just laughed a little bit before I turned my mind to something else.Yagglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15177750815584983551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-40476625076103412422010-11-23T16:43:15.899+01:002010-11-23T16:43:15.899+01:00There is circular logic for the decline of tanks w...There is circular logic for the decline of tanks waiting for LFG. Newly dinged tanks will maybe do a few normals, or dps a few hcs. So not providing any extra tanks in the hc queue yet. Then they are geared for tanking, they will spam Hcs, within a fortnight they have enough gear for raiding, possibly even BIS before raid gear. Then they stop doing Heroics. If there were more tanks and they had queue it would take them longer.<br /><br />So the answer? <br />Add grindable higher end pieces to Heroic content. Giving those tanks who are pre-raid geared to carry on running. If frostmourne could have been made from doing 500 heroics then tanks would run heroics.<br /><br />Cons: High end raiders would say it devalued raiding. Well boohooDangphatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-4077299099215675032010-11-23T16:16:21.801+01:002010-11-23T16:16:21.801+01:00I tend to agree with Ax.
In BC my main mage would...I tend to agree with Ax.<br /><br />In BC my main mage would do guild 5 man heroics and raids. At the beginning running heroics with a guild main tank made them relatively painless. In comparison pugging them was hurtful. Having said that I'd played that mage since start of vanilla, and knew how to sheep and dps. Thus when Magister's came out I was on the friends list of other raiding guilds who would whisper me to run the 5 man.<br /><br />It thus got to a point whereby I'd either go with people I knew on my main, or pug on an alt, because pugging the main became too painful.Alts tended to be tank or heal.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05981359685374685641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-65603179601881982472010-11-23T15:51:34.225+01:002010-11-23T15:51:34.225+01:00Thanks to dual spec and LFG, finding a group for h...Thanks to dual spec and LFG, finding a group for heroics will still be infinitely easier than it was in TBC.<br /><br />If the que becomes too long, then more dual spec classes will become motivated to play their dual spec. So it's a self-correcting problem. Perhaps the que will be longer than it is now, but it will still be tolerable. Also, it's not like it's that big of a deal to sit in que while doing dailies, farming, etc.<br /><br />Back in TBC, any non-tank had to actually spend 15 minutes actively recruiting people from their friend's list, guild, or trade chat to get a dungeon group going. <br /><br />That old system forced many would be M&S in today's system to actually learn and get better. I think Cataclysm won't make most M&S quit. They'll just have to learn just enough to not wipe in heroics. They'll still only do the bare minimum, but they'll do a better job than now.thehampsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12333883891642767644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-30597870086924669112010-11-23T15:50:35.234+01:002010-11-23T15:50:35.234+01:00I still remember back at the beginning of Wrath (w...I still remember back at the beginning of Wrath (when heroics were sort of hard). I was a healer, and used to run with this awesome tank. At first he would just blow off dps because "they were easy to find" but the reality became that nearly everyone was terrible. When we did find a dps who was good we'd pester them endlessly to run heroics with us. It's true that if you know your stuff, you'll do just fine.<br /><br />@Ephemeron - that's an interesting point, but I think the results may be the opposite of what you propose. For instance lets say I've done everything I can do for the week. What do I do? I take an alt out and do all that junk on my alt. Usually I've found someone who is good on their "main" is also good on their alts, so these good players will probably be pushed out into acting as a crutch for M&S sooner or later.Axnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-45719906997387504552010-11-23T15:42:20.984+01:002010-11-23T15:42:20.984+01:00I think you are giving people far too much credit....I think you are giving people far too much credit. <br /><br />I think we will still have plenty of players who que for tank/healer because it is quicker regardless of if they are good or not. <br /><br />The longer the ques get, the more likely people are to off spec and grind that way. It might be a headache early one, but with time we will be back to where we are now. <br /><br />Not all DPS will complain about long ques. They will have other stuff to do. Which I say is a good thing. If people are occupied while waiting they complain less. Really what is wrong with giving players other things to do? Sure it might suck waiting endlessly, but when they get a new vanity item out of the wait, it does not feel like such a waste of time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-46163069135823465132010-11-23T15:22:21.968+01:002010-11-23T15:22:21.968+01:00I can't see Blizzard moving from the ICC buff ...I can't see Blizzard moving from the ICC buff to a "all dungeons are hardmode dungeons" policy overnight.<br /><br />Give it 6 weeks after launch and group content will be nerfed to oblivion. It's the Actiblizzard way...Bernardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08909382806966279602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-79355427159545910842010-11-23T15:04:25.803+01:002010-11-23T15:04:25.803+01:00personally i think cataclysm is going to be just g...personally i think cataclysm is going to be just great, at least for me.<br />I don't know yet if i'm going back with my old hard core end game raiding guild or will just stick with my casual friendly guild of friends (who still raids and clears 10 men content).<br />But the solution for the daily farming is really easy: with dungeons and heroics being hard again people won't waste time witht he LFD tool until the content is overgeared, i'll probably spend the first month or so in orgrimmar (or any other capital city) forming groups to queue up for dungeons. I am a tank, and this makes it a lot easier, but anyone with some brain can form a group for a 5 man dungeon pretty fast, then you can start /w good people in the group to add them in your friend list, after one month you'll have at least 20 competent players in the friend list, allowing you to form fast groups for yuor daily farming, helping you fill your raid slots if a guildie is missing, and making your market bigger, since you have more people on line with professions or willing to farm stuff for you (for a price ofc) without the need to rely on random MS that will do a poor job in more time, while you can have a better job in less, just paying for itHarakanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12470483741618080346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-75702064094906538672010-11-23T14:12:58.456+01:002010-11-23T14:12:58.456+01:00I am pleased of the more difficulty, maybe it is b...I am pleased of the more difficulty, maybe it is because I often play tanks and the occasional healer...but yes I dps too, everyone likes to smash/freeze/burn/hurt things.<br /><br />Simplest method to surviving the renewed "difficult era" of WoW will be choosing your party/raid members wisely.<br /><br />Even for unknown content, balanced and knowledgable groups/people/mental dispositions. It is going to be a long haul otherwise, probably going to be a long haul anyway.Choky Heimlichnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-50308470253672762462010-11-23T14:05:44.265+01:002010-11-23T14:05:44.265+01:00Don't be so sure that the M&S would stick ...Don't be so sure that the M&S would stick around just because they're able to blame the tanks/healers. I think a more likely result would be that they spend hours in LFD, decide that 'the game is dying, for there are no more tanks and healers', and quit to go play farmville. <br /><br />While a mass exodus of M&S from WoW sounds like heaven for some, first consider that WoW is not Eve, and Blizzard is not CCP. Blizz has built their economic model on a multi-million player platform, not a small niche market like Eve. When they see ten million of their thirteen million players quit, they too might decide that WoW is dead and stop supporting it.Sjonnarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08728386387793059874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-67935953133558040902010-11-23T13:45:40.869+01:002010-11-23T13:45:40.869+01:00@Yagamoth: But with the new "mana matters&quo...@Yagamoth: But with the new "mana matters" model of healing, the goal is to prevent the healer from being able to carry morons. If they stand in the fire, either they die and you wipe from attrition, or you OOM and wipe. Someone on the WoW forum put it best: Our only real tool for mana conservation now is yelling at the dps.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com