tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post7272059518848470795..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: You can make difference or money. But never both.Gevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-50645038934828952492016-04-23T10:53:55.608+02:002016-04-23T10:53:55.608+02:00Darius is right, it was months of hardcore FCing w...Darius is right, it was months of hardcore FCing where true goons dedicated a lot of their real life time to break BoB. The martini wasn't really part of any of that. The reason they don't care he took credit is because they are adults.<br /><br />I don't really agree that the martini did any good with the power that was granted to him. He took the most effective fighting machine in eve and turned into a care bear haven. There is a reason any true goon talent is in other alliances, most of the old SA members are in pandemic legion for instance.<br /><br />I think world war bee has shown exactly how much of a fraud the martini is. I mean they couldn't even handle pandemic horde, which is ironic because in a BoB vs Goon kind of world Horde would be the goons (minus assholeness) and goons would be BoB. This is on the martinis hands, and his tactics of abandoning the only pvp alliances in his coalition was clearly a bad idea.<br /><br />Today goons is a 17000 member alliance which can barely put together a fleet of 100 pvp pilots, and that decay is the martinis fault,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-34195992210623325422016-04-22T01:33:44.394+02:002016-04-22T01:33:44.394+02:00Mittani's attempts to monetize goons have been...Mittani's attempts to monetize goons have been painfully obvious for the last year or so, and goons have been circling the drain since then. It drove out the people who actually got shit done, and attracted people who just wanted the complete security of an "unbeatable" empire. As much as people want to hype a civil war/coup scenario, people like Darius Johnson will probably just filter into "bittergoon" corps like Black Omega. Mittens isn't going anywhere.<br /><br />The LennyKravitz stuff is mostly being overblown by the media outlets IMO. There was another, more detailed interview with him today. It was less "I AM THE PUPPETMASTER OF MBC" and more along the lines of "people in IWI were pissed at goons+co, and they went through me because I already had contacts in the mercenary community." Its easier and more click-baity for a news site to say that one guy is the mastermind than explain the massive snowball that has been building up for the last 6 months.<br /><br />I think you are being a bit harsh on MC/PL though. Simply having NC+PL in the area was a big deal because it keeps the goon capitals in hiding. Before their arrival, supercapitals was one area where goons still held a significant advantage over LSV+friends. Killing pilots' desire to log in and fight is what will be needed to truly kill goons, and having enemy titans drive-bying your home station with impunity can't be good for morale. <br /><br />As for Mercenary Coalition (and PL), your definition of usefulness continues to elude me. You shit on MC for being #11 on your damage list, as well as PL despite them being #2. For the larger fights like M-O, MC and Dead Terrorists were heavily involved in the entosis and interception fleets rather than the main brawl. Fewer/smaller killmails, but still critical to the battle. For what its worth, they were also something like half the size of The Culture or Shadow Cartel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-18863501190399960332016-04-21T23:52:23.562+02:002016-04-21T23:52:23.562+02:00Gevlon, you were right, about the CSM election: ju...Gevlon, you were right, about the CSM election: just about every goon that ran got in. Looks like I wasted my time trying to run. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12099303485336356465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-54065388975337147242016-04-21T22:00:34.676+02:002016-04-21T22:00:34.676+02:00@Anon: indeed. But you can't have a 40K ration...@Anon: indeed. But you can't have a 40K rational group because you don't have that many rationals. You need to work with socials and that needs strict rules to avoid slacking and stupid stuff<br />Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-76844246146916566282016-04-21T20:38:09.924+02:002016-04-21T20:38:09.924+02:00IMO, "Had the Imperium fired 10K inactives an...IMO, "Had the Imperium fired 10K inactives and 20K M&S, both motivations were greatly decreased without Goons losing any power." is giving into the socials the same way as measuring epeen with a killboard.<br /><br />A corp with 10K active members and 50k inactive is stronger than a corp with just the 10k actives. Inactives drift back into the game every month; they are more likely to work in the corp if they are still in it rather than need to reapply. Similarly, if a 45% killboard baddie were to join the corp that is still increasing the damage the corp can do; all that is harmed is the social's kb epeen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-9482828514704166492016-04-21T15:22:28.141+02:002016-04-21T15:22:28.141+02:00If Gevlon and Mordus Angels are not recognized as ...If Gevlon and Mordus Angels are not recognized as laying the foundation leading to the fall of the CFC/Imperium, then someone got their history wrong. You did good work Gevlon.<br /><br />Any Charity Citadel, if it were to survive at all, should be named: "Gevlon was Right".Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12099303485336356465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-45289577565106238112016-04-21T14:11:20.703+02:002016-04-21T14:11:20.703+02:00What you describe is "belling the cat". ...What you describe is "belling the cat". Same reason an airplane full of people could stop 3 hijackers armed with pocket knives if they want, but the ones who go first will be stabbed and die, even though plane passengers will be guaranteed successful in the end. Therefore no one goes first and nothing happens.<br /><br />Despite what happens you and MOA always be remembered as people who did SOMETHING against goons while everyone sat for years saying, "cna't be done", "will be boring", "too much work, just want to 3rd party instead".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-501435192570869302016-04-21T10:43:34.536+02:002016-04-21T10:43:34.536+02:00@Anon: no it won't be. It's already forgot...@Anon: no it won't be. It's already forgotten. But "money > friends" will never be forgotten and that's what matters.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-12882358722534556062016-04-21T10:17:11.850+02:002016-04-21T10:17:11.850+02:00there's many "names" (and wannabe na...there's many "names" (and wannabe names) claiming victory for them bringing down Goons. None of them did.<br />We, the players, did.<br />But for what? What's next? PL?<br />@Gevlon: we do know what you have done for the game, for us all, and we salute you for it. Don't worry about the wannabe's out there. They'll go away. Your name will always be rememberd. o7Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-17471519389473689262016-04-21T08:52:18.293+02:002016-04-21T08:52:18.293+02:00@Anon: there was no need for 300B/week. MoA could ...@Anon: there was no need for 300B/week. MoA could break Goons from 12B/week and only Falcon saved them in August. Eep dropped 1T on TISHU to completely obliterate SMA, something I could also do (I admit, I never thought of focusing on SMA, I should have). Lenny did absolutely nothing. He merely bought himself a sponsorship, those who were killing Goons anyway did so with his name on their shirts. Or do you think PL would have stayed out of it when everyone and his mother was already pwning Goons?Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-60967205293124991802016-04-21T08:15:52.674+02:002016-04-21T08:15:52.674+02:00Your plan was solid, you just did not have the mea...Your plan was solid, you just did not have the means to pay for them. To be fair, a single person playing legitemately and not through exploitation of other players (casinos, gambling, etc) possibly can't afford to pay 300 billion ISK a week for months. But what you did got proofed by others and that's great.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-77795410363865461692016-04-21T07:55:17.323+02:002016-04-21T07:55:17.323+02:00@Anonymous: I wish you luck. But you will fail, be...@Anonymous: I wish you luck. But you will fail, because your citadel will be wardecced by PL or the remnant of Goons if they are still capable or whatnot. No one passes on T/month just because of charity.<br /><br />@Niko: both activities need effort, something that you have in limited supply. So while you can do both if you have the moral of a Saint, you'll still be mediocre in both.<br /><br />@Provi Miner: Carnegie and the rest of the billioners got rich first and then got poor by changing the World. He told it explicitly: "Die rich, die disgraced" http://streamhistory.com/die-rich-die-disgraced-andrew-carnegies-philosophy-of-wealth/Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-75705656922504312592016-04-21T04:51:57.101+02:002016-04-21T04:51:57.101+02:00its funny you put it that way "money or a dif...its funny you put it that way "money or a difference". I am reminded of the first public library I ever visited (there is a small plaque that says "donated to the city of X by the Carnage foundation" Same with Hurst's and Rockefellers all were nasty nasty creatures that valued money over nearly everything else then when they "won" their game they used that money to make a difference and they did. I am also reminded of Mother Terhessa the most selfish person I have ever seen in the world. She was offered a rare chance to save tens of thousands instantly and because she was to selfish to give of herself just one more piece (a book, she wouldn't even have to write it just answer questions and someone else would write it, she was offered six figures for herself or to her charity and she said not because it wouldn't be in accordance with her sacrifices) somehow I think that a book (that was written anyways making millions for the author and book company)wouldn't have changed her. but meh perspective is the answer. Provi Minernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-84358220719361318132016-04-21T03:26:51.882+02:002016-04-21T03:26:51.882+02:00You could absolutely do both. The problem is that...You could absolutely do both. The problem is that most people get corrupted, stop focusing on changing the world and start focusing on the money. This is where the fault lies.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12114569663588001969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-74342384507570774442016-04-21T03:26:40.181+02:002016-04-21T03:26:40.181+02:00Gevlon, long time reader (back to your WoW days), ...Gevlon, long time reader (back to your WoW days), first time commenter. It's up to you if you make this comment public or not, but I just wanted to let you know about a project I've started ingame that could be an answer to your concerns about a "New Jita" destroying the metagame. A charity trade hub, a pure freeport that will charge everyone the same taxes and give profits to PLEX for Good and is supported by ingame charitable groups like Broadcast 4 Reps and Care 4 Kids.<br /><br />https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4fpkzm/announcing_charity_citadel_benefiting_plex_for/<br /><br />https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=478046&find=unreadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com