tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post7157670945563372176..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: Coming soon: dual rentingGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-16047017158242192572014-10-24T20:41:42.305+02:002014-10-24T20:41:42.305+02:00This exists already and has existed to years. It&#...This exists already and has existed to years. It's called afk cloaky camping to extort a payment to leave you alone for a few months. It's part of operating costs for renters.The Langnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-54425481646223141662014-10-24T17:55:18.154+02:002014-10-24T17:55:18.154+02:00I agree with Gevlon. While pirates currently may o...I agree with Gevlon. While pirates currently may only be in it for fights, there is real potential in receiving a rental income AND using renters as bait for fights...especially in those regions that are furthest from the big empires.<br /><br />Otherwise, the isolation that the jump changes will bring will just empty out nullsec even more.mordis mydaddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07917167436312438744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-3401146880690755012014-10-24T16:35:33.234+02:002014-10-24T16:35:33.234+02:00It feels weird to me to think of corruption as a s...It feels weird to me to think of corruption as a stable system. Corruption tends to happen on a "need-to-use-gov-service" basis. Every time you need something of government, you pay a "fee".<br /><br />Protection money sounds like a better fit. But the tax size is usually relatively small compared to protection money.<br /><br />To be honest, can't think of any 50-50 system where there are two actual rents and one of them isn't an actually useful service, but rather something of "pirate" nature.maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-72410693066239004262014-10-24T16:25:16.545+02:002014-10-24T16:25:16.545+02:00I think that it wil Just go back to the pet/master...I think that it wil Just go back to the pet/master relationship dromen before. <br />An inner core containing the current big Boys, surrounded by pets strubbelingen to houden and or make isk. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-9763328433761721522014-10-24T15:53:26.492+02:002014-10-24T15:53:26.492+02:00Or perhaps we will see a situation where the regio...Or perhaps we will see a situation where the regional power, the traditional feudal lord, demands some kind of rent, while simultaneously playing with pirate alts, harassing their own serfs.Vince Snettertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00645892172885793532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-76620376765867973472014-10-24T15:12:11.692+02:002014-10-24T15:12:11.692+02:00"Pirates and other small PvP groups are not t..."Pirates and other small PvP groups are not the competitors of renters."<br /><br />This isn't true at all, pirates and other PvP groups spend a lot of time attacking renters, it's a frequent occurrence in nullsec.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-49888328071080359572014-10-24T10:31:18.321+02:002014-10-24T10:31:18.321+02:00I don't think that there will be two landlords...I don't think that there will be two landlords. The "pirates" aren't in it to earn a rent. They want explosions and killmails. As far as I know pirates aren't interested in policing an system an establishing any sort of tactical control.Sequesternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-33233972908423595552014-10-24T08:10:38.250+02:002014-10-24T08:10:38.250+02:00@Maxim: corruption?
You pay tax to the government ...@Maxim: corruption?<br />You pay tax to the government and also to the local officials/maffia.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-25307231400945356342014-10-24T08:02:14.196+02:002014-10-24T08:02:14.196+02:00Not only the pirates are an issue. moreover they e...Not only the pirates are an issue. moreover they expect bigger attacks from blocks in those areas. this cant be anymore defended on multiple fronts. so it is good to focus back on home and create buffer or neutral zones<br />pirates are also not very reliable or loyal to do contracts withAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-51257022693122082272014-10-24T07:55:42.280+02:002014-10-24T07:55:42.280+02:00Any RL examples of it actually working as a stable...Any RL examples of it actually working as a stable system?<br />126maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-46443941395330606182014-10-24T06:39:28.120+02:002014-10-24T06:39:28.120+02:00Most pirates would just consume the renters for ki...Most pirates would just consume the renters for kicks, then recede knowing that others will take there place and additional easy kills will be forthcoming.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-12415540331696866022014-10-24T05:20:34.677+02:002014-10-24T05:20:34.677+02:00A genuine multi renting system (and it might not b...A genuine multi renting system (and it might not be just 2) is that that the renters would need to pay off sufficient pirate groups that work in the area so that none of them would attack.<br /><br />Before I moved into WH's, I was based in lowsec, where there were 3 different local groups to appease; and some just wanted 'good ganks'. <br /><br />In the end it was safer, easier and cheaper to move into a WH.<br /><br />Renters will come up with whatever works to stay reasonably secure. This is likely to be a mix of trusting to the larger landlords, some form of local muscle, and in some instances, moving.Foohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02444693774790165427noreply@blogger.com