tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post6270465335032938267..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: The warningGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-78405034708504314882017-04-11T22:31:35.662+02:002017-04-11T22:31:35.662+02:00@Ragelle: here is a red line for you: https://foru...@Ragelle: here is a red line for you: https://forum.albiononline.com/index.php/Thread/50340-extremely-quick-rising-Gold-price-is-a-reason-to-stop-trading-Our-economy-is-dyi/?postID=500823#post500823Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-19959018158761520832017-04-11T19:27:18.761+02:002017-04-11T19:27:18.761+02:00I'm messing around in the beta doing bits of t...I'm messing around in the beta doing bits of trading and would gladly join you in a project if it was interesting and casual/had a casual role within it(limited time).Mr Tinglahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05698511538213669439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-62410187126718440572017-04-11T15:59:19.425+02:002017-04-11T15:59:19.425+02:00Sure, you can't know ahead of time what the fo...Sure, you can't know ahead of time what the form of rigging might be, but you can still define goals for your project and make it clear to those you recruit that if the devs change the game to make those goals impossible then you'll quit. It doesn't necessarily have to be a hard "if they do X I quit" so much as a clear communication about what you are trying to accomplish. Then everyone can evaluate developer changes in the context of your goal - small effect, large effect, render impossible, make it easier, etc. <br /><br />You're goal will be asocial, but that shouldn't preclude honest communication about the goal you are pursuing within the guild community you recruit.Ragellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10285176601838226959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-12782220322199952082017-04-11T11:37:07.092+02:002017-04-11T11:37:07.092+02:00Recall my comment a week ago to you about Albion? ...Recall my comment a week ago to you about Albion? Relative value of the packs constantly changing. My post that I linked to it was also quickly moved to their "rant" section those few years ago. Honestly these days gaming companies have children at the helm, they cannot deal with facts.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17783642904185417722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-47201103384528148262017-04-11T11:28:45.717+02:002017-04-11T11:28:45.717+02:00Keep illuminating possible problem areas and give ...Keep illuminating possible problem areas and give your readers some credit. We can make our own decision as to whether it's worth shelling out the EA/beta cash and joining early. If we get burnt, it's hardly your fault.Estebannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-20258944083334093672017-04-11T09:53:01.967+02:002017-04-11T09:53:01.967+02:00@Hanura:
Some online-Games have a PTR, that is Bet...@Hanura:<br />Some online-Games have a PTR, that is Beta, everything else is "release", because it is released (excluding early access). The term Beta / release / EA declares the publishers (sometimes dev) mindset about the game status.Ðesolatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01209033212940702897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-45312942336237543912017-04-11T08:37:56.592+02:002017-04-11T08:37:56.592+02:00@Ragelle: I can't draw red lines because I don...@Ragelle: I can't draw red lines because I don't know what to look for until I find it. Devs are very resourceful in rigging. World of Tanks was a simple case, mostly because it was the earliest rigged game. Compare it to EVE, where everything is player driven and the devs have no agency - until they unban "friendly" offenders, even if they are criminals (both vandalism and underage gambling is criminal). I didn't see any of it coming until I bumped into them. In LoL they had a very sophisticated rigging which works not on team strength (like WoT), but makes a weaker team win by the feeder-snowball mechanics of MOBA play. Again, without complete understanding of the game, and statistical analysis, I couldn't find anything.<br /><br />If SI rigs Albion, they do it in an unprecedented way that I won't know until I do.<br><br><br /><br />@Hanura: there is difference between "the game may change" and "all progress will be wiped at launch".<br /><br />@Anon: "I have a bad feeling about" every game. All devs are in for the money at the expense of players, with no consumer protection agency behind us. The question isn't "are they after me?", it's "do they provide enough gameplay to compensate for their monetization"<br /><br /><br /><br />Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-309731841303531532017-04-11T08:22:15.722+02:002017-04-11T08:22:15.722+02:00I would totally join your Guild.
I bought the foun...I would totally join your Guild.<br />I bought the founder pack back then when I played a lot of games. I did not even logged in once, since I don't really have the time now.<br />The original plan was that Albion will run on phones, do you know anything about it? Maybe I could log in a few times from my workplace and a few nights a week.<br />So if you need someone, who already has beta with limited playtime, I am happy to join your experiments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-56112381486660959932017-04-11T07:42:03.083+02:002017-04-11T07:42:03.083+02:00The extra day headstart is also very important, as...The extra day headstart is also very important, as it allows you to build up enough silver to buy gold when its at a 1:2 ratio on the first day, and gives you a day to buy as many city crafting plots as possible, these make an obscene ammount of profit during the first month since they are incredibly cheap and will pay themselves off with just a few of your own crafts, not to mention charging other people to craft at your station.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-12751450123969663852017-04-11T07:36:53.574+02:002017-04-11T07:36:53.574+02:00It is a good thing to call these things out as you...It is a good thing to call these things out as you, as an informed customer and opinion leader, can perceive them. I believe it is weird to see your post on that subject moved in the rants section, as there is nothing rant-like in it.<br /><br />Everyone playing the beta now plays it to have a leg up once the game starts. This is obvious, and part of the nature of open world, player economy driven single shard MMOs. Lowering the advantage early RL money brings from having a mount by negating the effect of early mounts is not necessarily bad for the game. <br /><br />To do right, the publisher just need to give the option of an alternative legendary pack, with more gold and no horse to take in accounts the latest changes they brought to the game, and let the players that bought that pack decide for themselves which option is best for them with the latest information available before release.<br /><br />As for your project, testing it in beta is probably best to get ready for launch. After all many guilds like EOS or Niflgard are doing it and getting a leg up early. As a matter of fact, these guilds acting now and finetuning their launch strategy will do better than those starting at launch. So get your name out as soon as possible... In many ways, starting in beta is already too late for this kind of games anyway...<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-72362398748201687222017-04-11T06:15:00.367+02:002017-04-11T06:15:00.367+02:00Regarding feedback: I think you know the answer. ...Regarding feedback: I think you know the answer. It would definitely provide some material for blog posts. It is not guaranteed, but my expectation is that when you are writing your Albion post-mortem, you will say this is your "I should have known when..." moment. IIRC, in your *redacted* post-mortem, you said that when Falcon did I-forget-what you should have walked away then. <br /><br />The devs may be competent and not overly greedy. But this change, and especially banning your post, both have to set off "I have a bad feeling about this" concerns. <br /><br />GL with whatever you decide.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-43400442025236010702017-04-11T04:05:30.803+02:002017-04-11T04:05:30.803+02:00"But it's clearly a flag that the devs ar..."But it's clearly a flag that the devs are ready to do some shady stuff for money."<br /><br />If the extend of "shady stuff" they're willing to do is hide financially problematic forum posts ... then they're sadly still better then practically every online game in the industry.<br /><br />Regarding your concern about people paying money for a game that is in beta: every online video game that isn't dead is in beta. You never buy a final "product". Every day a businessman could decide that he would make more money if he'd give welfare gear to everyone in your favorite game. And there is nothing you can do about it.<br /><br />The only real difference between beta and launch of a online game is the likelihood of a change to which players a game tries to cater to.Hanura H'araschnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-51942093554279039082017-04-11T03:09:56.229+02:002017-04-11T03:09:56.229+02:00It's not unethical for you to invite people in...It's not unethical for you to invite people into a project for Beta so long as you layout what red lines would cause you to drop the game in release.<br /><br />Most people will want to know they are signing on to something worthwhile that brings an advantage and has some legs to it.<br /><br />The devs get a hit here for shady dealings. It's not the changing terms that are the issue it's the inability to be direct and up front about it. Just don't emulate the bad example and maintain transparency and the people you get may complain latter but they really won't have a valid complaint if you maintain basic honesty about the plan.Ragellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10285176601838226959noreply@blogger.com