tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post6164140490119566540..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: Broker fees and transaction taxes: Malcanis law in actionGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-31338660400890820102016-03-09T22:36:06.498+01:002016-03-09T22:36:06.498+01:00Glad I am not the only one who sees the issue with...Glad I am not the only one who sees the issue with High Sec markets placed in Citadels. I've linked your post to my alliance forums.<br /><br />At least the profession of trading got a buff... so to speak.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12099303485336356465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-80271787688239444902016-03-09T20:17:57.777+01:002016-03-09T20:17:57.777+01:00changes are confirmed... and worst than expected.....changes are confirmed... and worst than expected... <br /><br />https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/49p3la/update_on_structure_services/<br /><br />V.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-9702206157722080602016-03-09T20:08:42.240+01:002016-03-09T20:08:42.240+01:00If you make your own sell order, you pay your own ...If you make your own sell order, you pay your own high broker fee. Traders can make orders for you as they have lower broker fees.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-17316459101080438022016-03-09T19:59:42.576+01:002016-03-09T19:59:42.576+01:00Uh, rather than making trader's richer, wouldn...Uh, rather than making trader's richer, wouldn't this just encourage people to create their own sell orders rather than dumping to buys?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-26033126370053771512016-03-09T15:50:15.244+01:002016-03-09T15:50:15.244+01:00Selling to buy orders dumb? Only if buy/sell gap i...Selling to buy orders dumb? Only if buy/sell gap is too big and quantity/price makes it worthwhile. Mass selling bunch of modules that accumulated over time is more profitable than setting sell orders for each. I can very well see people selling off bunch of crap, even if it includes a faction module or two.<br /><br />Zosiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03923806436605751198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-81154406110587036532016-03-09T15:40:20.809+01:002016-03-09T15:40:20.809+01:00It depends on how prices adjust. If prices rise to...It depends on how prices adjust. If prices rise to accomodate a wider buy-sell spread then casual farmers lose nothing since they are being higher taxed on a higher price.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-69996644224453398902016-03-09T10:44:15.958+01:002016-03-09T10:44:15.958+01:00Iirc they're revamping the standings formula. ...Iirc they're revamping the standings formula. Possibly that will make it easier for new players although it will only apply to the small subset who are actually interested in trading mechanics.Stabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08716211705647213383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-28299730639279299282016-03-09T10:37:46.335+01:002016-03-09T10:37:46.335+01:00@Zax: without docking, you can only station-trade....@Zax: without docking, you can only station-trade. You must dock to bring items to sell or carry purchased items away.<br /><br />@Anon: if you need ISK right now, you are poor = dumb.<br />If you babysit orders, you are bad at trading. Just list it and update it once a day by 1-2%.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-23983124953925273562016-03-09T10:09:46.138+01:002016-03-09T10:09:46.138+01:00People aren't really "dumb guys" for...People aren't really "dumb guys" for buying and selling instantly, they just need their time more than they need the additional few % the item or released liquidity costs them. Remember that not everything in the game is about isk, and if groups like moa spent all of their time babysitting their market orders they'd never get out and fight goons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-90361735820979031242016-03-09T10:08:46.150+01:002016-03-09T10:08:46.150+01:00" you can lock out selectively those who are ..." you can lock out selectively those who are undercutting you"<br /><br />I dont need to dock at a citadel to use the market.<br /><br />The main problems with citadels are lack of contracts to them at the moment.Zaxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-11137239225908571042016-03-09T10:04:54.257+01:002016-03-09T10:04:54.257+01:00Even if it's true (and I wouldn't take Win...Even if it's true (and I wouldn't take WingspanTT as an authorative source), it wouldn't help another - non-griefing - option: you can lock out selectively those who are undercutting you. Buyers are welcome, little guys who just sell a few items are tolerated, but competitive traders are not. So everyone who is not them are encouraged to keep Jita alive by not leaving it even when it's temporarily possible or even profitable. <br /><br />I mean if someone wants to make big money, he first set up a citadel in Urlen for 0% fee, and when Jita is dead, he just gets rid of all big competitors, gauge 5% fee from little guys (they'd pay the same in Jita) and get very rich.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-39784446954193944612016-03-09T09:51:56.005+01:002016-03-09T09:51:56.005+01:00Here is my source for the above comment, it took m...Here is my source for the above comment, it took me some times to find it :<br /><br />https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/48s4p1/planned_changes_to_npc_citadel_taxes_and_services/d0m3pa5<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-72920803210123570772016-03-09T09:44:04.372+01:002016-03-09T09:44:04.372+01:00"You can't evac if you can't dock.&qu..."You can't evac if you can't dock."<br /><br />According to wingspantt there will be an option to evac if you can't dock.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-12092195082149349822016-03-09T09:01:19.565+01:002016-03-09T09:01:19.565+01:00Thank for raising the point...yet another issue wi...Thank for raising the point...yet another issue with market citadels but I hope that all of the citdael owners don't stoop at that level<br /><br />ElizAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-86938047991118480042016-03-09T08:27:00.006+01:002016-03-09T08:27:00.006+01:00You can't evac if you can't dock. The grie...You can't evac if you can't dock. The grief is to lock everyone out and don't destroy the citadel.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-28018550319279331152016-03-09T08:24:09.012+01:002016-03-09T08:24:09.012+01:00You can evac your assets even if the citadel is st...You can evac your assets even if the citadel is still alive, and the fee is 0 if it's in the same system, the major problem is the 5 days period for your items to arrive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-84119789381742339812016-03-09T07:02:20.285+01:002016-03-09T07:02:20.285+01:00You raise a good point about griefing citadels tho...You raise a good point about griefing citadels though. Similar things happened with Pi when they became player owned. Its exactly like high sec player corps v npc player corps.<br /><br /> face it the CCP devs are a bunch of griefers who made a game where they can greif people and everything is designed to grief people for the lols. If your playing in high sec and your NOT in an npc corp your doing it wrong. <br /><br /> Anyone attempting to trade assets out of a station they don't own instead of an npc station? doing it wrong...<br /><br /> I am however buying shares in my local popcorn company. Its going to be very fun to watch all the idiots.<br /><br />ps I have no idea what on earth yr capctha is about gevlon but its very weird.nightgerbilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11555431875907240808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-63494376386374073532016-03-09T06:18:22.289+01:002016-03-09T06:18:22.289+01:00It's completely impossible to camp Jita. There...It's completely impossible to camp Jita. There are too many people to kill to have any impact. No one has manpower to do that. Just remember "Burn Jita"s. Goons killed a handful of freighters, while most people didn't even know anything is happening.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-75968256730050696122016-03-09T03:26:01.762+01:002016-03-09T03:26:01.762+01:00Just Burn/Camp the Jita 4/4 undock, point the vict...Just Burn/Camp the Jita 4/4 undock, point the victims to the new citadel which does not have hellcamp. You can charge a fee and screw over everybody. Based on the trillions traded in Jita should not take too long to pay for itself times over. Since there are no capital ships damage dealers in high-sec, it just comes down who has the greater numbers. And guess who that is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com