tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post5705463608282016797..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: The first apprenticeGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-40867481565296800532009-07-10T19:51:25.092+02:002009-07-10T19:51:25.092+02:00In defense of the motorcycle and traveler's tu...In defense of the motorcycle and traveler's tundra mammoth - these are multi-person vehicles.<br /><br />We have 2 motorcycles in our guild (I have one and so does my husband) and they are invaluable for times when a low-level guildie needs to get from point A to point B quickly.<br /><br />We also run in groups for events such as Midsummer and made use of the motorcycles to transport guildies with lag issues that were unable to keep up with us on their mounts.<br /><br />While I had to pay cost for the vendor mats for the motorcycle, I watched the market for the other parts for months and purchased the metals, furs, etc at rock-bottom prices.Ariochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05536961652848860428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-74514855905917969402009-07-07T15:08:21.414+02:002009-07-07T15:08:21.414+02:00@Michael, i am in the bag selling and i always get...@Michael, i am in the bag selling and i always get undercut but i sell bags at the same price.The ones that undercut me sell and then my bags sell. I always have 30+ bags on AH and sell about 20 each day with a profit of 4-5 g per bags if i buy cloth from AH and even more when i am in the mood for farming, so dont undercut the lowest prices, keep them a bit over the lowest ones. They will sell eventualy.bubuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17879608720753459870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-72429736385500539252009-07-07T08:15:49.841+02:002009-07-07T08:15:49.841+02:00@michael,
The trick to inscription is to use it a ...@michael,<br />The trick to inscription is to use it a lot. Make two of every glyph that won't give you negative profit a day. Then people that undercut you in a few glyphs won't matter in the big picture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-58848928681416740492009-07-07T07:06:54.122+02:002009-07-07T07:06:54.122+02:00Great idea, great experiement.
I look forward to ...Great idea, great experiement.<br /><br />I look forward to reading about your progress.Zupahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08445341092509751446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-83009160389072202212009-07-07T02:14:49.904+02:002009-07-07T02:14:49.904+02:00you can go onto us realsm if you go on their accou...you can go onto us realsm if you go on their account with a simple change in the realmlist.wtf file from us to eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.comSean Marshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01371043975837792022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-77049277680862475092009-07-07T01:41:38.450+02:002009-07-07T01:41:38.450+02:00Hi Gevlon,
Since I've discovered this blog tw...Hi Gevlon,<br /><br />Since I've discovered this blog two weeks ago, I have really took an interest in using the AH as a passive source of income.<br /><br />I have a question for those who sell glyphs as their main source of income. How did you guys deal with those who would undercut you repeatedly over and over?<br /><br />By default I take the lowest AH price and undercut it by 20%. I don't mind lowering my profit margins, but I can only check in on my auctions once an afternoon where I would repost the auctions with a 10% undercut.<br /><br />Seeing as I have just entered the market for glyphs, I was just wondering what are some of the strategies you employ when dealing with those whom undercut by 2 or 3 silvers at a time.<br /><br />P.S. Good luck YdraisaSenor Leunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13181269864659284954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-57904449394202251692009-07-07T00:14:59.941+02:002009-07-07T00:14:59.941+02:00"Gevlon's one mad goblin that wants us to..."Gevlon's one mad goblin that wants us to believe he isn't social, but it's obvious he is as he loves to social network through a blog and share his opinions for people to debate and discuss. He loves having a forum to discuss his goblin ways."<br /><br />I'm not too sure about this comment. <br /><br />While this tutoring could be read as a social action by a social person, I think that this is the chance to put another notch on the belt of a high-achieving goblin.<br /><br />And I think the blog could be read as a place for Gevlin to bait trolls, particularity some of the social commentary.<br /><br />Not that there's anything wrong with that, keep up the good work Gevlin :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-44840980491074113682009-07-06T22:28:28.892+02:002009-07-06T22:28:28.892+02:00Oh also regarding DKs, you can take a gathering pr...Oh also regarding DKs, you can take a gathering prof, and you really aren't losing out on that much time. What I did was level 1-300 at level 62 with fast mount (you can do it at 58). I skipped 300-375 until 70 and epic flight, and leveled that within an hour or two (mining). Same thing with NR, its just so insanely quicker to do the gathering when you have flight. I really doubt the time efficiency is much worse than skipping nodes while leveling, since you can gather at 10x rate when you have flight.Rob Dejournetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11451389128538898818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-26034540849791415102009-07-06T22:26:09.461+02:002009-07-06T22:26:09.461+02:00Good luck Ydraisa! I'll be following along to ...Good luck Ydraisa! I'll be following along to see how it all goes. :) Hope you wind up a wealthy gnome.Rhiihttp://www.isheepthings.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-80482556800129127772009-07-06T22:25:41.909+02:002009-07-06T22:25:41.909+02:00I honestly think a smart goblin can take any profe...I honestly think a smart goblin can take any profession situation and turn it into gold. The basis is there. Now do you want to do it? I don't do it because I'm lazy, and I have many many toons. If i worked their profs to the max every single day I'd never have time to actually level or raid. <br /><br />Anyway! Tailoring is a huge money sink in NR, but I'm with the others, the #1 money maker is netherweave bags. The math is simple too = one stack of netherweave, one rune thread = 1 bag. You can also make the inbueds but those are hard b/c the silk cost is often high, low amount, and its a pain in the ass to farm.<br /><br />Now the other trick is where to get the cloth. Sure you can go to the AH and buy it, and that's fine. But if you want 100% profit, go to somewhere like the Isle of QS and farm your heart out of the mobs there, all the humanoids are 70 and drop good amounts of cloth. Also the other great place is shadowmoon valley where the bloodelves are, west of the alliance keep. Sorry I'm at work and don't have time to figure out what exactly that place is called. I almost never advocate farming, but when I do it I get 100 gold in just cloth alone. Go to the isle of QS, do the dailies, you typically come off with 100g in cloth, 50g in greys and greens, and 50g in quest rewards at 80, in an hour.<br /><br />Sure you can make just as much doing icecrown dailies or something else, but its fun for me.Rob Dejournetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11451389128538898818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-36597756591712388702009-07-06T21:47:26.005+02:002009-07-06T21:47:26.005+02:00Good luck to the apprentice! I'll be following...Good luck to the apprentice! I'll be following the journey right here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-75698324576926586152009-07-06T21:22:09.937+02:002009-07-06T21:22:09.937+02:00Playing Tsuno (Tauren Warrior) i leveled Mining an...Playing Tsuno (Tauren Warrior) i leveled Mining and Blacksmithy...and of course learned the haphazard of the AH. Upon personal experience I started my priest and did two gathering skills until 55-60, skinning and mining. I then of course changed over to Enchanting and Tailoring. Basically using the gathering as a measn to level and make some cash while doing it, before being able to concentrate on crafting. (On Tsuno there is some smithy quests that cost me a lot of mats, a lot of time and the expense of possible profit of the items).<br /><br />What is your rule of thumb for starters with professions? Gathering until a certain level? I had my wife do gathering on her mage until we hit 55, and started Tailoring to get to Netherweave bag. 9Started at 55 due to leveling and still questing...be able to make the bags as soon as we reach Outlands tomorrow or so).Kithahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09616447037203286123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-6917902684070257732009-07-06T20:36:06.738+02:002009-07-06T20:36:06.738+02:00Good luck to a fellow Argent Dawner , great realm....Good luck to a fellow Argent Dawner , great realm. I also play on other realms and have noticed that on Argent Dawn quite alot of items are cheaper than normal , so a crafting profession could bring in a better profit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-42266720190510700292009-07-06T20:07:10.911+02:002009-07-06T20:07:10.911+02:00Another easy way to make gold: bullets. Hunters al...Another easy way to make gold: bullets. Hunters all buy them. Not just the hardcore, but also the M&S (since the most badass M&S weapon is a gun). On Baelgun-EU, one can make 10 Bullet Machines (Thats 10x 2000 bullets) for 240 gold, and sell the bullets for 440. And you only have to mass produce them and sell them at the right time (main raiding days/fridays).<br /><br />On the mammoth/chopper topic. They do not make sense at all. The mammoth is just the proof, that the people who want to buy them are mostly so pathetic, that they cannot even check their gear in time, so they can repair it in a city, where they get a discount from X faction (kirin tor, etc.), or do not waste the time of their raid. <br /><br />The chopper is just a big hunk of plastic. It isn't any faster than other mounts, it won't get you ANY type of advantage against other players. It just costs 12-14k gold to produce. A goldsink. Just like the hacked arcade machines in most cities, where the kids blow their money like crazy, just to look cool for 5 minutes. Except that the people who buy the chopper are mature (?) people. But the goal is the same. Failed /flexingWhitewolfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-17683129239435745402009-07-06T20:03:45.726+02:002009-07-06T20:03:45.726+02:00@Russ: Every thing about JC sells. You could prosp...@Russ: Every thing about JC sells. You could prospect for a profit. Or just cut gems and resell. Depending on how many goblins are on your server, you should get at least 5g per cut after commissions. <br /><br />Most gems sell. Some sell in huge quantities. Like solid sky sapphires, purified twilight opals, runed scarlet rubies.Zeanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-47534802494686398992009-07-06T19:41:40.906+02:002009-07-06T19:41:40.906+02:00On the mammoth - The problem with "I want mon...On the mammoth - The problem with "I want money to buy a mammoth" isn't that mammoths are intrinsically bad, it's that if you're looking to do 80-group-PvE (Heroics or Raids), there are more pressing monetary needs. I hit 80 on my rerolled Shaman yesterday, and I need probably 2k gold to get pre-Heroic/Naxx craftables, and more to buy some Hodir rep, and then epic flight. And once I'm into Heroics/Naxx, I need money to pay repair bills and buy consumables (flask only in my case, since I have 425 cooking) and gems/enchants. Then there's alt-tradeskills (my DK's enchanting is stuck at 250ish). Once I have all that covered (or if I don't plan to raid), a motorcycle or a mammoth becomes a defensible expense.<br /><br />Gevlon's problem is that "I'm a poor raider and want a mammoth" smacks of a mismanagement of money equal to people on welfare driving sports cars.ZachPruckowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15952603904161496266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-7413405780996890082009-07-06T19:17:38.193+02:002009-07-06T19:17:38.193+02:00@duncan
If the mammoth cost 2 copper surely you c...@duncan<br /><br />If the mammoth cost 2 copper surely you could justify buying it; the question is whether the (opportunity) cost of the (gold you spend to buy) the mammoth is worth the utility you gain from it. In some cases, having a pretty mount may well be worth the 15kg, since you aren't going to be doing anything else more useful with the money.<br /><br />By your logic, spending IRL money on vacations, video games (WoW among them), etc., could never be justified no matter how cheap they were; there are things you can spend your money on that will better help you to make more money. The point is, if you have enough money to keep making money and a good reserve, "vanity" or "fun" items can be worth the price Blizzard sets for them.<br /><br />@everwrath<br /><br />I completely agree; people don't really NEED the 4 bags but they *think* they do so they buy them. If I could make them think they NEEDED full bag space in the bank too that would be super. Influencing behavior of the masses of M&S on WoW seems a bit hard though; if you have a way to do this please share :-).Bagmakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-81547564699124301912009-07-06T19:03:53.464+02:002009-07-06T19:03:53.464+02:00I agree on some comments on the tundra mammoth. I&...I agree on some comments on the tundra mammoth. I've never regretted buying it. Speeded things up considerably on sarth 3D wipes and the first weeks of ulduar when the repair guy wasn't there. Not nessesary but great convenience all around and not just a vanity mount. and the alternative? extra 16k in my bag collecting dust. good deal imo. But ofcourse you should make sure you got gold for all the other stuff you need... not nice being a poor man on a mammoth.biittinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-16211228605306342212009-07-06T18:53:47.825+02:002009-07-06T18:53:47.825+02:00@ the Mammoth debate: Does your current amount of ...@ the Mammoth debate: Does your current amount of income/savings dictate how good the deal you are making is? No. It has no baring what so ever. So if you were to take the amount of gold you have out of it and considered "is it a good deal to buy this mount?" the answer is a resounding "No".<br /><br />No matter your current level of gold, you cannot justify buying the vanity mounts.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06178719488395835548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-8593136105450923732009-07-06T16:59:50.281+02:002009-07-06T16:59:50.281+02:00I highly suggest that your readers take a look at ...I highly suggest that your readers take a look at the "OMG I Can't Make Gold" thread on the JMTC forums.<br /><br />http://20kleveling.com/JMTCforum/viewforum.php?f=7&sid=2188053f275331befac3eef43c332d4b<br /><br />I like what you're doing Gevlon, very classy :)Markcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13403848164475495092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-26752479247927756882009-07-06T15:37:19.260+02:002009-07-06T15:37:19.260+02:00In our realm, I find that the spellthreads sell we...In our realm, I find that the spellthreads sell well, both the lvl 80 epics and blues. I buy all mats from the AH. Had quite a panic a few weeks back where iceweb thread prices suddenly soared, but now they normalized again so it's kinda normal.<br /><br />And of course, cooldown cloths, may they be your spec or not. And Netherweave Bags. Frostweave Bags should be avoided.<br /><br />All those might depend on the realm though.<br /><br />I was actually wondering if it would be worth it to invest into Ebonweave, Spellweave, Moonshroud or Glacial Gear to sell on AH. I think I have the capital... It might be too risky, though >_<Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02583361199618343325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-38516570419846947092009-07-06T15:19:43.004+02:002009-07-06T15:19:43.004+02:00It is rather hard for tailors to make money, seein...It is rather hard for tailors to make money, seeing how Frostweave Bag materials go for more than the bag itself sometimes. However, I'll have to agree that Netherweave Bags are a fairly reliable source of profit. I buy stacks of Netherweave Cloth for 5g or under. Each stack of cloth + 1 Rune Thread becomes a bag that sells for 9-11g on my server. New characters will often find that this bag is the best value on the AH, so it sells fairly well. With 4-6g profit per bag, it can add up.<br /><br />I think knowing the market fluctuations for ore will also help. I've noticed the gold farmers unloading their ore on the weekends, driving prices down up to 5g a stack. If she times her auctions correctly for the ore, it'll all add up in the end.<br /><br />Best of luck Ydraisa.Outsydrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13377301589479357127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-67529650396397242232009-07-06T15:14:41.577+02:002009-07-06T15:14:41.577+02:00@catalin,
I haven't been reading Gevlon's...@catalin,<br /><br />I haven't been reading Gevlon's Blog for too long. Found this Blog from Too Many Alts. I found it interesting and have kept on reading because it's amusing. Though I imagine I missed a ton of posts like Gevlon explaing exactly that constitutes an M&S or why he hates the bike and mammoth so much. I know I have no idea why achievement freaks do what they do for things like pets and mounts, but to each his own. I have a bike, but no mammoth. Mammoth doesn't appeal to me save for perhaps the farmer mammoth where you can sell and repair while out and about. That's the ultimate mount for being out and about while questing or farming.<br /><br />Gevlon's one mad goblin that wants us to believe he isn't social, but it's obvious he is as he loves to social network through a blog and share his opinions for people to debate and discuss. He loves having a forum to discuss his goblin ways. <br /><br />And now he's actually going to spend time to help some hapless player make money for no other benefit to himself than proving his theories work for even a "poor" person by WoW standards.<br /><br />It should make for a very amusing Blog. It will give us a chance to see Gevlon practicing the old cliche "A hand up not a hand out".Thunderhornsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-34767782323933606482009-07-06T15:05:18.291+02:002009-07-06T15:05:18.291+02:00Best of luck on your newest project Gevlon, this p...Best of luck on your newest project Gevlon, this project is really interesting. Maybe one day you'll try this one a US server. =)Marchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13412719543189170761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-59093443818110597792009-07-06T15:03:13.044+02:002009-07-06T15:03:13.044+02:00@chaoskas
Good point about the long term. After ...@chaoskas<br /><br />Good point about the long term. After there are a couple graduates it may be nice to do a check up on them months down the road and see whether they've managed to keep their earnings or whether they fell back into old habits.Yazilliclickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02657214520246273266noreply@blogger.com