tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post5591796377784831979..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: Oh the juicy tears!Gevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-30995564610645500712015-11-30T02:25:48.933+01:002015-11-30T02:25:48.933+01:00It's so funny to finally hear this blow over. ...It's so funny to finally hear this blow over. I expected tmc drama ever since I overheard Alex bragging to someone (I think shadoo from Pl, but I could be mistaken, it has been a while) during fanfest 2013 at the Celtic Cross on how he'd make his life on tmc now and gsf members financing it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-86985908169185341382015-11-26T17:53:56.371+01:002015-11-26T17:53:56.371+01:00Brilliant! Simply brilliant!
All those who think ...Brilliant! Simply brilliant!<br /><br />All those who think that this book would be a good idea, shame on you. Go reading already existing propaganda pieces and check their content versus reality...<br /><br />This failed KS project is the best source for goon tears and gewn pet tears...<br /><br />So far, I have not seen any ad hominem attacks against Jeff Edwards and I agree with Gevlons point of view. One checks a business partner's background before committing to cooperation. If attacks then happen, so be it. That is just having to deal with the consequences...<br /><br />Also, Inferium is not as goog as Band of Bookstarters... I do love that name... :)<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03980196122718057307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-88227736429133074342015-11-26T17:23:35.183+01:002015-11-26T17:23:35.183+01:00By the way, I think this is a better view of the w...By the way, I think this is a better view of the war itself:<br />http://www.gamesradar.com/eve-onlines-fountain-war-beginnings/<br />A neutral view, explained for common people...Hamlyn Medleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-77721135989144400072015-11-26T17:20:30.554+01:002015-11-26T17:20:30.554+01:00Hey Gevlon, I think you should use that photo in a...Hey Gevlon, I think you should use that photo in a better way (the http://tinyurl.com/qjc7kkh one)<br />Like that "Kill a titan, say "Gevlon send his regards", recive moneeeyy" thing but with the url xD that would be awesome :D<br />Like, kill a goon (carrier or something shinny), post the photo, recive (insert stuff here)<br />That's gold man! That's gold!Hamlyn Medleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-76549629063307890672015-11-26T15:16:04.830+01:002015-11-26T15:16:04.830+01:00"I doubt so, as we fought for them and a few ..."I doubt so, as we fought for them and a few ones went to SMA (for now).<br /><br />Also, that would be a radical chnage of position : remember the "we will burn Cloud Ring" ?<br />(and, seriously, what could Brave offer ?)"<br />A couple went to SMA holding, but that doesn't mean that's how the CFC plan to leave them.<br /><br />There is no change of position, as we all know that goons have publicly stated their intentions, to force renting on other null groups. They will continuously attack people who refuse to pay them a tribute.<br /><br />From what I've heard, BRAVE have agreed to pay something, and that's supported by the fact that the new BRAVE systems were handed over so quickly and are not being reinforced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-69442406133711500332015-11-26T15:08:11.672+01:002015-11-26T15:08:11.672+01:00More importantly, the Book was marketed to the wid...More importantly, the Book was marketed to the wide community from the start. If they wanted Goons to pledge, they wouldn't bother getting Grath, Seagull and various non-EVE guys to publicly support it. They never once claimed "support this book and pubbies will cry", so even loyal Goons could consider it "some CCP deal nothing about us". Funnily they can be sitting between two chairs: <br />- Goons didn't pledge for a neutral book<br />- Non-Goons didn't pledge for a Goon bookGevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-1662051438792562932015-11-26T14:57:24.535+01:002015-11-26T14:57:24.535+01:00Most of "the goons" aren't really &q...Most of "the goons" aren't really "Goons", just random EVE players happening to find their way to GSF or larger Imperium and they aren't immune to the "wider EVE community". Of course the leadership has much better chance to control them, but they've given up this by preferring TMC over CFC (and renaming the latter for the former).Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-35435084493693805152015-11-26T14:44:52.363+01:002015-11-26T14:44:52.363+01:00The _very_ simple truth is that even Goons, an all...The _very_ simple truth is that even Goons, an alliance with 16,000 pilots, hasn't backed this.<br /><br />They currently have just over 700 backers so even if everyone outside Goons were influenced by the Grr Goons the vast majority of GSF members don't give a fuck about this book. <br /><br />The failure to hit their kickstarter goals has everything to do with the market not liking it and nothing to do with 'grr goons' on reddit.<br /><br />Sion is spinning this now because he wants to create a 'them vs us' narrative so when they relaunch the book all his 'people' sign up. Sadly for them this has clearly exposed that Mittens and his chums see pilots not as fellow Eve players but cash cows ripe for the milking. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-18596185911688543032015-11-26T14:29:49.189+01:002015-11-26T14:29:49.189+01:00Nice read Gevlon and spot on me thinks. Random tho...Nice read Gevlon and spot on me thinks. Random thought, Eve News24 are showing a lot of self control by not piling on TMC. I can remember when the Mittiani (yes the actual player) would go after them with a vengeance. I bet deep down inside EN24 are laughing the arsss off. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-78016150467350352922015-11-26T13:30:27.407+01:002015-11-26T13:30:27.407+01:00@Anon: they might or might not know, but none of t...@Anon: they might or might not know, but none of them had a reason to care as none of them partnered with Alex. Would I have a problem hanging out in the lounge of "The Mittani of World of Tanks"? No, because I can't care less about WoT. If he'd offer me an hourly paid job on my field, would I care? Only about his reputation of paying his other employees.<br /><br />But if I'm about to give up my day job to go on a business venture with him based on crowdfunding? You can be sure as hell that I spend days reading up on him.<br /><br />By the way thank you for not reading the original article. It's exactly about how the carefully built casual network of the Mittani is at jeopardy because Jeff will be very angry/disappointed in him due to being dragged into this shit.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-1709472054619380272015-11-26T13:12:22.431+01:002015-11-26T13:12:22.431+01:00"Ryanis, are you aware that BRAVE have made a..."Ryanis, are you aware that BRAVE have made a deal with goons to keep that system and take over the surrounding ones? Seriously, check it out."<br /><br />I doubt so, as we fought for them and a few ones went to SMA (for now).<br /><br />Also, that would be a radical chnage of position : remember the "we will burn Cloud Ring" ?<br />(and, seriously, what could Brave offer ?)Ryanisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-18748554658362195172015-11-26T13:12:17.859+01:002015-11-26T13:12:17.859+01:00"On the other hand he partnered with The Mitt..."On the other hand he partnered with The Mittani, despite his reputation is obvious, even out of game. "<br /><br />His reputation for getting one on one interviews with lead devs of various game companies?<br /><br />His reputation from the various out of game interviews he has given over the years?<br /><br />His reputation for being in charge of ebil goons, and therefore literally Hitler?<br /><br />His reputation for being a total ass when drunk?<br /><br />"This project has already attracted the support of several gaming industry leaders and noted authors including J. Todd Coleman of Crowfall, John Smedley, past President of Sony Online Entertainment, Scott Hartsman, CEO of Trion Worlds and New York Times Bestselling author Pierce Brown."<br /><br />Yes, they are obviously unaware of his reputation, because they clearly are people who are unaware of who they associate with.<br /><br />Perhaps you should write an email to them individually to make sure they are aware precisely who they choose to mix with. I am sure they would appreciate it, as Alex has obviously hidden it from them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-21845034720497069412015-11-26T12:33:03.707+01:002015-11-26T12:33:03.707+01:00"When Sion sais:
"I've thought of a..."When Sion sais:<br /><br />"I've thought of a great way to scrape a tiny percentage of money from a bestselling author's fees after CCP’s royalties."<br /><br />What tiny percentage is he talking about?"<br />He was saying that's NOT what Mittani was saying, it's what people are pretending he said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-50489403446947965652015-11-26T12:31:05.857+01:002015-11-26T12:31:05.857+01:00"PS : In the same time, in Cloud Ring, Goons ..."PS : In the same time, in Cloud Ring, Goons "purge" is on a good way : http://isilhin.free.fr/illustrations/eve/IrreductiblesV2-eng.jpg and http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/251584tmp.png"<br />Ryanis, are you aware that BRAVE have made a deal with goons to keep that system and take over the surrounding ones? Seriously, check it out.Truthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-38093907720025508812015-11-26T10:17:40.243+01:002015-11-26T10:17:40.243+01:00"Optimally, that change will just come natura..."Optimally, that change will just come naturally from internal decay and line members realizing the organization they joined no longer exists and what they are part of now is a shadow of former self. The reputation they have now is not the reputation they once had."<br />+1, especially, their members are getting bored.<br /><br />PS : In the same time, in Cloud Ring, Goons "purge" is on a good way : http://isilhin.free.fr/illustrations/eve/IrreductiblesV2-eng.jpg and http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/251584tmp.pngRyanisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-91160405544610627122015-11-26T09:56:48.887+01:002015-11-26T09:56:48.887+01:00I don't think goons can "command" or...I don't think goons can "command" or force anybody to support the Kickstarter. If they force or black mail somebody in game, they would utilize in game power to receive financial benefits out of game and effectively commit a form of RMT. What they try to do is to abuse and to exploit the community spirit that is spread since some time now by a certain part of the player base.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-76259007791387881922015-11-26T09:55:34.751+01:002015-11-26T09:55:34.751+01:00This is the man for EVE fiction: https://en.wikipe...This is the man for EVE fiction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alastair_Reynolds<br /><br />Good luck getting him. I would pay twice and even more.<br /><br />Kevan Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11147920478213250519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-17784728383326219002015-11-26T09:45:18.579+01:002015-11-26T09:45:18.579+01:00I had TMC in my EVE bookmark folder. I would only ...I had TMC in my EVE bookmark folder. I would only wander there if I was bored, or when someone I actually follow linked an article in it. When I read Sion's piece I deleted the bookmark. Attacking Rixx Javix was disgusting. In fact, the whole article was disgusting.<br /><br />I would be so glad for a Call To Arms from all of the nullsec alliances to invade Goons. Just burn their sov and then leave it for anyone who cares to take it. We are fighting in Fountain with each other, when next door Goons are fighting in Cloud Ring. I would love to blue our enemies and hunt goons together. Joining MoA wont work for many of the nullsec players, as they love their own community more than they hate The Mittani. You should encourage nullsec players more to fight goons and not just to join MoA, because most of us wont leave our community.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-14826138254389111112015-11-26T09:44:51.129+01:002015-11-26T09:44:51.129+01:00@Anonymous
26 November, 2015 04:53
I disagree, Ev...@Anonymous<br />26 November, 2015 04:53<br /><br />I disagree, Eve has many blogger's, podcasters, twitchers (they do twitch on twitch :),<br />forum warriors, twitter palls, and so many useful game related websites out there.<br /><br />If you take away one of them, you take away one facet of Eve Online's soul, even if it's an evil part. Remember content is created by us the players, and our community is the best.<br /><br />Regards, a Freelancer<br /><br />PS: The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-3205025182504996472015-11-26T09:01:36.997+01:002015-11-26T09:01:36.997+01:00When Sion sais:
"I've thought of a great...When Sion sais:<br /><br />"I've thought of a great way to scrape a tiny percentage of money from a bestselling author's fees after CCP’s royalties."<br /><br />What tiny percentage is he talking about? I mean a book which would have brought many new players for EVE would have hold a book in their hands with The Mittani logo all over it. Their first website would have been TMC, buying PLEX and reading ads and propaganda.<br /><br />I'm only a physicist, not a business expert, but I would not call that a TINY percentage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-14328442858408125682015-11-26T08:03:40.630+01:002015-11-26T08:03:40.630+01:00I never attacked Jeff or asked anyone to do so.
...I never attacked Jeff or asked anyone to do so. <br /><br />On the other hand he partnered with The Mittani, despite his reputation is obvious, even out of game. Googling his name and reading the first 100 hits (about 2 hours of his life) could inform Jeff of all of this. <br />- If he didn't care, then he deserved all the attacks<br />- If he didn't do his homework, than he is paying for it. Maybe disproportionately, but still. Also, I don't understand why he didn't quit this deal already, I'm sure his contract has a moral clause, so he could quit as soon as he learned about Fanfest.<br /><br />I have no pie and no Thanksgiving as not being American.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-14077557421760095772015-11-26T07:16:26.295+01:002015-11-26T07:16:26.295+01:00Sion's article pointed out that Goons are used...Sion's article pointed out that Goons are used to the hate of the EVE Player base. His concern or so he claims is that the toxicity normally fit for Goons fell upon someone undeserving. That at the end of a day an author taking a risk, on a video game property of all things, found himself facing the ugly side of EVE. Not Goons ganking newbs, not TEST members selling the TESTOGRAM. But a bunch of people that claim to be better than the enemy they face, but failed to leave the in game hate in game and took it out on someone who took interest in writing the story.<br /><br />Maybe The Mittani and company deserve their reputation, but I fail to see the link between what they do in game and the steaming pile dumped in the lap of a guy asked to take a risk to write a book.<br /><br />The elephant in the room is how can it be okay for those who feel wronged by Goons to sink to their level? How can it be justifiable to engage of in a set line of conduct you decry as wrong, and then claim to take the moral high ground because you don't do what Goons do. I don't mean you as in Gevlon, but in the sense of very person that has gone beyond fair criticism but the kind of rabid diatribe only found on FOX News.<br /><br />I'm not saying opposition to the project is wrong, and the concerns are certainly well founded. I just question the way everyone decided to approach this. Not as a concerned community but a lynch mob.<br /><br />Why couldn't people have taken the high road, why couldn't they have practiced what they preached about good behavior and civility?<br /><br />Believe me I feel very silly asking all this because I see the delight you have taken in the recent turn of events, but maybe you could take a step back and from a dispassionate point of view make an argument that rises above the hypocrisy.<br /><br />Failing all that are you having Pumpkin or Apple Pie for Thanksgiving?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-66397132610264877812015-11-26T06:45:34.724+01:002015-11-26T06:45:34.724+01:00@Stabs: have you considered killing some Goons? Mo...@Stabs: have you considered killing some Goons? MoA could clearly use good FCs.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-16808346028872517892015-11-26T06:37:01.735+01:002015-11-26T06:37:01.735+01:00Well played my dear Goblin.
You certainly keep Ev...Well played my dear Goblin.<br /><br />You certainly keep Eve interesting.Stabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08716211705647213383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-47336818376880811502015-11-26T06:24:36.048+01:002015-11-26T06:24:36.048+01:00@Riojas: http://tinyurl.com/qjc7kkh
@Anonymous: a...@Riojas: http://tinyurl.com/qjc7kkh<br /><br />@Anonymous: absolutely not. Most Goons just ignore everything not told by Mittani-Father. The only way to reach them is where they can't hide: the client. Of course you can link propaganda in local, but if you are just shouting on your soapbox, they'll ignore you. The reason they can't ignore me is that I fund MoA that killed their ship.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.com