tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post4905371737626275241..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: API: my own storyGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-43003281132583524252015-05-17T08:49:33.456+02:002015-05-17T08:49:33.456+02:00Your success or lack there of is due to your manag...Your success or lack there of is due to your management, not due to API or lack thereof.<br /><br />Asking questions that were not asked/explored before. <br /><br />It is only recently (with the recent crest changes - that are API based) that the killboards have become as 'accurate as they are' - even if they are deliberately misleading.<br /><br />Don't for a second believe that just because CCP does something, that means that it still can't be misleading, especially where vanity is concerned.<br /><br />New<br /><br />I *do* believe that you are either Moron or slacker if you do not use the tools that a simple google search can provide.<br /><br />Some tools that I use that are API based<br />Evemon<br />Jeveassets<br />Evernus<br />Eve droid (primarily for evemail)<br />Eve central.<br />My PI spreadsheet (made publicly available - but there were others before me)<br /><br />All of the above require programming skills, but not by the player.<br /><br />To find these requires google skills, which today in any MMO, I believe should be a required skill.Foohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02444693774790165427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-6626412016751382072015-05-15T23:21:16.337+02:002015-05-15T23:21:16.337+02:00Goblin, its because You think of spreadsheets and ...Goblin, its because You think of spreadsheets and others, more sophisticated tools (which are mostly spreadsheets changed to be more accesible for people that are lazy/stupid) as addition to EVE. While it is other ways around.<br /><br />EVE is addition to spreadsheets. Think about it. Everything that EVE got and others games dont is the fact You can put it into spreadsheet and work on it with minimal-to-none logging into game (player driven economy and content).<br /><br />Everything that EVE posses that others games have (grinding missions/resources/pvp), others games do mostly better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-38465055658065885032015-05-15T12:58:29.338+02:002015-05-15T12:58:29.338+02:00You misrepresent the API and put others off of usi...You misrepresent the API and put others off of using it by saying you needed an IT expert and to learn coding to be able to use it.<br /><br />This is fine if you wish to perpetuate a myth that it is impossible to access the API without being a leet coder.<br /><br />You need to be able to read, and to follow instructions if you want to put XML into a spreadsheet.<br /><br />There are aspects of the metagame that require different tools, and some knowledge, but reading and copy-pasting is not one of them.Zaxinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-66522047654207931672015-05-15T12:11:05.312+02:002015-05-15T12:11:05.312+02:00your personal success in game is measured in Billi...your personal success in game is measured in Billions if ISK.<br /><br />the success this post describes is success in the meta-game, which you came closer to by getting better at meta-game techniques. I don't see a problem.Antinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-2002597121163793762015-05-15T10:47:10.388+02:002015-05-15T10:47:10.388+02:00And what about third party tools that don't re...And what about third party tools that don't rely upon the API?<br /><br />Should we be trying to ban those as well?<br /><br />The API gives everyone an opportunity to make use of third party tools or roll their own. It _does_ require a different set of skills to those used in-game but why would those skills be any less valid?<br /><br />The API is part of EVE as much as planetary interaction or wormholes or exploration sites. Having the skills (player skills, not character) to exploit those gives you an advantage in the same was as having the skills to exploit the API.<br /><br />And, to be honest, what would the vast majority of what most players would get out of the API by personally programming for it? About the same as they get using third-party tools like zKillboard, EveMon and the fitting tool of their choice. It's not a skillset that the vast majority of players would gain much benefit from. There are a few that would and some of them learn the skillset. <br /><br />It must be a real slow news week for this to have got more than one person heated up. Aren't there fonts to moan about?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09530768062372896951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-70219873534342282232015-05-15T09:09:19.718+02:002015-05-15T09:09:19.718+02:00I'm really confused. Having access to that in...I'm really confused. Having access to that info hasn't made you better at the game. No API info makes anyone better. the main reason big groups excel due to their IT has nothing to do with API, it's to do with creating tools like SSO comms and intel tools - nearly all of which rely on copy paste data from the client. Even if CC turned it off, you'd still find big alliances excelling due to their IT infrastructure, the only difference is that "normal" people wouldn't stand a chance of matching up because the free tools that we all use wouldn't exist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-12082129220207485192015-05-15T07:08:48.666+02:002015-05-15T07:08:48.666+02:00As I said before, ask ccp to shut down the API. So...As I said before, ask ccp to shut down the API. So everybody is treated the same - noone has any informations.<br /><br />But is that the better solution? Without the API feature you still wouldn't know that Test was bad at Eve.<br /><br />This API and Data handling is a part of the game - my personal opionion.<br /><br />Eve has a lot of things you can do for instance:<br /><br />in Game (client):<br />- Mining<br />- PVP<br />- PVE<br />- Trading<br /><br />some way out of the client:<br />- Meta-Gaming<br />- Data-MiningZyannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-37576390398149933372015-05-15T04:10:16.664+02:002015-05-15T04:10:16.664+02:00Another aspect of EVE that is not present in other...Another aspect of EVE that is not present in other games: how data analysis can help you in your decision process. <br /><br />But paying attention in general is a key part of EVE; something you don't need data analysis to tell you: Goons propagandize and TEST is a bunch of hope-full hype. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12099303485336356465noreply@blogger.com