tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post3951098570200772764..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: BDO Ingot madness: maybe it's pay to winGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-12335992670767844562017-03-16T09:55:44.428+01:002017-03-16T09:55:44.428+01:00Manos Golden Coral Belt gives + 100 LT basic and +...Manos Golden Coral Belt gives + 100 LT basic and +300 LT @ III level.<br /><br />belt + trader outfit @ +3 gives 600 LT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-61136721477103301812017-03-09T05:59:39.002+01:002017-03-09T05:59:39.002+01:00@Maxim: it is good enough for all the "skillz...@Maxim: it is good enough for all the "skillz" people who spend lots of time practicing moves just so their chance to win increase a bit.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-42295284282758787952017-03-08T23:14:05.005+01:002017-03-08T23:14:05.005+01:00@Gevlon
Saying that "if you pay, you win next...@Gevlon<br />Saying that "if you pay, you win next LoL game 100% of the time" is factually incorrect. So no, not literally.<br /><br />Also, you will find that "Pay to likely win" is a far worse clickbait than just "pay to win".<br /><br />Ultimately, the thing about victory is that victory is binary - you either win, or you do not win. "Correlates well" is simply not good enough.maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-23886785533973834502017-03-08T19:38:14.460+01:002017-03-08T19:38:14.460+01:00@Maxim: in League of Legends, if you pay, you get ...@Maxim: in League of Legends, if you pay, you get free win. Literally.<br /><br />Also, competitive advantage correlates well with winning, so those who pay win more than those who don't. So it's "pay to likely win"Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-83719065497878271922017-03-08T18:56:49.974+01:002017-03-08T18:56:49.974+01:00@Randomus271
If people are morally outraged by wha...@Randomus271<br />If people are morally outraged by what they call pay-to-win, then they certainly don't just mean "Pay to Gain a Competitive Advantage". At the very least, they also mean that the advantage you get wins you the game automatically. Which is almost never the case in notable titles, as you have said.maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-48386142538483481732017-03-08T15:38:44.638+01:002017-03-08T15:38:44.638+01:00@maxim - That is why I hate the term "Pay to ...@maxim - That is why I hate the term "Pay to Win" - people read it literally...and *of course* the literal act of paying to win doesn't exist in any successful game because it is ridiculous. Any game that let you literally pay to *win* the game outright would run out of players instantly as they would all "win" and go away...<br /><br />People really should just start calling it what it is, despite the fact that it doesn't sound as catchy: "Pay to Gain a Competitive Advantage"<br /><br />However, since P2W will never go away, I guess we'll just have to read what people *mean* by it rather than trying to take it literally...Randomus271https://www.blogger.com/profile/03129371204247007979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-91696437317683836422017-03-08T13:45:27.563+01:002017-03-08T13:45:27.563+01:00You've just discovered the class form of privi...You've just discovered the class form of privilege blindness. (Seriously), congratulations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-71527563928059595022017-03-08T12:52:13.334+01:002017-03-08T12:52:13.334+01:00a lot of p2w is admittance fee.
KR games are full ...a lot of p2w is <i>admittance fee</i>.<br />KR games are full of it. 100% enchants, huge HP pots on seperate cooldown, some candy with seperate buffs (for example, +5% runspeed). and the list goes on. <br />but even with a weapon of asomesauce from the p2w shops and guaranteed 25% more damage as compared to the nolife grinder that never stoped botting/playing since beta ... that still is a <i>attendance fee</i> and no press-one-button-win item.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-74480541342353656112017-03-08T06:07:41.898+01:002017-03-08T06:07:41.898+01:00This is more like an admittance fee to a serious c...This is more like an admittance fee to a serious competition.<br />You don't automatically win by wearing the suit, you just get more options available for you (which you can still screw up).<br /><br />This all implies, there is such a thing as "serious competition" in BDO, though. If there is not, then what exactly are you winning and from whom?maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.com