tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post3835241959118695732..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: Authority in EVE Online (and capitalism)Gevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-8688046854903028132012-11-21T16:20:56.237+01:002012-11-21T16:20:56.237+01:00Gevlon, members don't need to break a rule to ...Gevlon, members don't need to break a rule to be kicked from TEST or the HBC. Time and time again individuals, corps and even whole alliances have been removed purely on the basis that they "didn't fit" culturally. They broke no established rules, they were simply removed because they do not fit in. <br /><br />You have access to our wiki, you should consider browsing the pages about our history. Look for corps, alliances and major "personalities" that have been kicked and blacklisted for no other reason then because they don't "belong".<br /><br />I have personally blacklisted people just because they were "dicks". Your argument that members are safe as long as they do not break any established rules is not based on reality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-13038810018911158972012-11-21T13:54:08.444+01:002012-11-21T13:54:08.444+01:00You might be interested in the concept of rent see...You might be interested in the concept of rent seeking. Rent seeking is when someone lobbies for rule changes that would lead to the rules being tipped in your favor.<br /><br />For example, if an industry is difficult to enter then companies in that industry can charge higher prices. If the industry is heavily regulated, then it may be difficult to enter. So an industry may lobby for additional regulations (e.g. cosmetologists lobbying for licensing requirements) - that is rent-seeking. Of course, everyone claims that they're not rent-seeking, and the regulations are necessary and important. They try to muddy the water.<br /><br />If someone on CSM were to lobby CCP to change the rules in some way that secretly benefited them, that would be rent-seeking. For example, someone who leads a large alliance might campaign for more tools to make large alliances difficult to topple.<br /><br />In the real world, most rent-seeking is done by small organizations with large financial motive. The american population would benefit from, say, eliminating price supports for milk - because lots of people drink milk, and the price would drop. But it wouldn't drop very much, so people aren't very interested. The large diffuse interest loses politically to the small group (the dairy farmers) with a lot of financial incentive. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04906677773615232966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-5228308177110244802012-11-21T12:12:31.359+01:002012-11-21T12:12:31.359+01:00@Anonymous: the ONLY alternative of a "Makalu...@Anonymous: the ONLY alternative of a "Makalu" is the rule of the law. The leadership make clear rules and keep these rules. Of course the rules can and often need to be changed, but the change and the new rule must be articulated.<br /><br />When someone can be kicked for no rule breach, then ANYONE can be kicked. Then anyone can fear that he can be kicked if someone "important" (by definition a "Makalu"). A coalition held together by fear is exactly what -A- demonstrated to be destined to fail.<br /><br />The easygoing "no f... given" culture of HBC is based on exactly that no one needs to thread on eggshells, no one need to think "will this act or word infuriate X?" nor "doesn't X mean that I should be doing Y"?<br /><br />Obviously, the loss of one member (even a 20B/month one) won't kill a coalition. The message "if you talk back to X, you're out" would kill it.<br />Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-76193681700866354852012-11-21T11:49:43.959+01:002012-11-21T11:49:43.959+01:00In EVE, the way to get rich is being mediocre and ...<i>In EVE, the way to get rich is being mediocre and irrelevant. Live in highsec or Minmatar FW and farm all by yourself (with your alts). Some do it by a semi-AFK mining fleet, others are running missions for LP, some trade. Each and every one of them has zero effect on the EVE story and very minimal effect on the life of others.</i><br />I disagree with this as your core premise as evidenced by the fact that you devoted some months of your blogs talking about faction warfare 'exploits' (which were not exploits) because it was directly impacting you (and conceivably other traders who follow your methods).<br /><br />Those FW pilots and alts are obviously impacting you.<br /><br />Similarly your constant activity in Jita apparently makes things cheaper for people as you drive off the 0.01iskers...<br /><br />Every single profession in eve is interwoven because the core of the game is the player driven market.<br /><br />The rest of your post is built on this straw man and doesn't bare analysis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-69395788546959397172012-11-21T11:45:07.692+01:002012-11-21T11:45:07.692+01:00What makes you think everyone who wants to kick yo...What makes you think everyone who wants to kick you is another Makalu in the making?<br /><br />One day TEST leadership may decide the cost of you disrupting their cultural cohesion outweighs benefit of receiving 20b a month. <br /><br />If TEST were to fall apart if you moved your money elsewhere, then they were never as successful as you made them out to be. Far more likely they'd stand to lose nothing <i>important</i> with you gone, while you'd be stuck with no way to participate first hand in their success.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-64263613381705355972012-11-21T10:16:06.381+01:002012-11-21T10:16:06.381+01:00If I'm kicked from TEST over someone getting M...If I'm kicked from TEST over someone getting Makalu position, do you think I actually want to be there or keep considering TEST a group that has a perspective of success?<br /><br />No, I wouldn't just hoard ISK, I'd go and find the next candidate for "best group in EVE".Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-15684645292237794642012-11-21T08:46:51.931+01:002012-11-21T08:46:51.931+01:00If you (specifically) get kicked from TEST you don...If you (specifically) get kicked from TEST you don't lose "nothing." You lose the ability to participate in in-group activities with the group that you define as being most successful in null.<br /><br />Surely you're not playing this game just to make ISK anymore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com