tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post2925420520651983890..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: 1-2 more weeks pleaseGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-40799094777957562412017-01-02T20:48:21.228+01:002017-01-02T20:48:21.228+01:00"But the bigger issue is a rig is defeated if..."But the bigger issue is a rig is defeated if it's exploitable. If I just create charts, convince a few people to not play, couple million players will remain. But if I show a way how to exploit the rigged matchmaker, I don't only provide undisputed proof (if it wouldn't be rigged, the exploit would obviously decrease winrate), but players who want to continue playing will use the exploit, ruining the game for those who don't exploit, forcing the company to stop rigging (or rather refine their algorithm)."<br /><br />I have to say, that is a brilliant application of your "Be constructive instead of destructive" goal. No sarcasm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-43235555723627807312017-01-02T18:32:41.953+01:002017-01-02T18:32:41.953+01:00Of course the casino always wins. I have no proble...Of course the casino always wins. I have no problem with the casino paying double for red, double for black, but red+black =/= 100% due to zero being green. That's fine. But rigging the game so it gives red when buddies put on red is wrong. Actually it's a felony in a casino.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-79504925537586006172017-01-02T17:07:57.847+01:002017-01-02T17:07:57.847+01:00Casino always win.
Make your own gameCasino always win.<br />Make your own gameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-1370385585955777042017-01-02T14:41:41.841+01:002017-01-02T14:41:41.841+01:00@Pheredhel: obviously. The only working exploit is...@Pheredhel: obviously. The only working exploit is that can you elevate significantly higher than you could climb with normal play. <br /><br />I'm not sure I can do that, because there are many countermeasures to protect the system. That's why there is delay. I'm afraid I can't do it and have to settle with just statistical evidence. But I'm trying and thinking how to do it.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-41586749688573866002017-01-02T13:58:47.365+01:002017-01-02T13:58:47.365+01:00One thing I miss here is the definiton of a workin...One thing I miss here is the definiton of a working exploit of the system.<br />That is something you should declare now, not when publishing the results.<br /><br />As you use ranked, my suggestion would be to use the official metric of that system:<br />how high do you rank?. There is no toplist for dps, winpercentage etc...<br /><br />The only thing that would get people to really see it as an exploit would be if you manage to raise in the rankings through it.<br /><br />This however would also mean that queue dodge penalties work against your exploits (getting other to dodge would work in your favour again though).<br /><br />So can you define criteria now that we can later measure the success of your exploit against?<br /><br />Just having "some strange numbers" that do not affect any metric that players usually care for won't do much in my opinion.<br /><br />Pheredhelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-57794997112847049942017-01-02T08:26:14.554+01:002017-01-02T08:26:14.554+01:00From my personal experience the MMR shown in op.gg...From my personal experience the MMR shown in op.gg has some relevance to what happens in the client. Ie. when it has shown to me 'your MMR is quite a big higher than the average in this division (higher by 2 divs or something)' -> After the next promos I have skipped a division.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-44557880862102489862017-01-02T08:10:32.212+01:002017-01-02T08:10:32.212+01:00@Anon: and this is why figuring out how to break t...@Anon: and this is why figuring out how to break the system and getting high winrate would be the ultimate proof.<br /><br />@Next anon: I don't think that MMR even exists. I believe games are created ad hoc including both unranked and gold players.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-82628023391226475072017-01-02T07:58:14.539+01:002017-01-02T07:58:14.539+01:00Also of interest to you might be the historical mm...Also of interest to you might be the historical mmr (match making rating) which lol used to apparently show before the current system.<br />Guesses are that current system was implemented on top of the old one and the old mmr was just hidden.<br />Now the question is, are you just trying to figure out the formula on how mmr is calculated?<br />Various websites such as op.gg can also show their version of mmr. They don't tell how they calculate it but perhaps they would tell you should you inquire it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-73368976008660671202017-01-02T07:13:42.450+01:002017-01-02T07:13:42.450+01:00Whatever your formula may be I suggest verifying i...Whatever your formula may be I suggest verifying it with someone who has no idea what you are after. Reason being self suggestion ie. if you think you are likely to win you will be play differently than if you believed you are likely to lose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-67619114836322273452017-01-02T06:27:10.592+01:002017-01-02T06:27:10.592+01:00@Maxim: Of course you don't, because I didn...@Maxim: Of course you don't, because I didn't tell the formula<br /><br />By playing only one, beginner-suggested, out-of-meta champion<br /><br />As soon as you see the formula, you'll know it's rigged.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-92160534307439151742017-01-02T05:53:52.649+01:002017-01-02T05:53:52.649+01:00Not sure I understand what teamscore is and how it...Not sure I understand what teamscore is and how it can be crested before the match.<br /><br />Not sure how you are going to prevent yourself from getting better without going full on M&S.<br /><br />Not sure how the fact that some matchmaking puts you at a disadvantage is proof positive of "rigged". Imperfect matchmaking will happen. Especially after disbalancing stuff like winning streaks.maximhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576542229498004147noreply@blogger.com