tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post2741723872963925224..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: "Monday minipost": incursion and the dumbest MoA memberGevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-15465065900011091862015-09-16T20:45:32.772+02:002015-09-16T20:45:32.772+02:00@Cairn Pithum above:
MoA member here. You may hav...@Cairn Pithum above:<br /><br />MoA member here. You may have some severely outdated info. Not leadership so I can't speak for the numbers you're providing, but we absolutely do have line-member SRP, and while it's not retarded-moongoo-isk-200% brilliant, it's definitely enough to keep us flying - covers close to the full cost of most ships and the entire cost of certain subsidized ships like logi.<br /><br /><br />@Gevlon - you're forgetting an important part of EVE in your analysis of how alliance members should spend their money. At the end of the day, it's still a game - people have personal goals and preferences on how to spend their personal money. This particular person probably wanted to fly a titan, so they got a titan. And proceeded to act moronically with it, but that's beside the point. If everyone was trying to optimize goons-killed-per-hour we'd lose our minds. A decked-out dread fleet would have been a nice (and <b>fun!</b>) way to spend that ISK, but "donate it to the alliance" doesn't see the immediate rewards for the player in question - thereby, it doesn't feel worthwhile or "fun" even if it gets more value long-term - and even if the player themself benefits a lot from it, it won't be immediately obvious that <i>this is my contribution at work</i> as you'd get from bridging with your titan or ganking a supercap with a bunch of pilots in dreads, most of which you've given out personally.anon357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-50560953441726082122015-09-15T14:11:05.249+02:002015-09-15T14:11:05.249+02:00@DK
Ha ha, very true. You'd think I'd kno...@DK<br /><br />Ha ha, very true. You'd think I'd know that being an Army guy: We're the Delta force of Eve.<br />Xan Auditorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166461766274810705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-58579289220958454412015-09-15T07:20:51.990+02:002015-09-15T07:20:51.990+02:00@Xan Auditore
Seal Teams are a naval force, they ...@Xan Auditore<br /><br />Seal Teams are a naval force, they have admirals, not generals. Dreiden Kisadanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-80558983346392200302015-09-15T00:30:06.211+02:002015-09-15T00:30:06.211+02:00Hi GG! MoA member here. I feel I need to correct y...Hi GG! MoA member here. I feel I need to correct you because you think we have an actual SRP program. We don't. We have a "Post your losses here"-thread where special people (Like covert cyno characters/people etc gets reimbursed). There was roughly paid out 2.7 bil ISK in August. If Gen EVE or Massadeath is telling you otherwise you might have to ask for some evidence. Most line members doesn't care about the reimbursement, but unfortunately this leads to a lot of brain-drain long-term. Without sounding greedy, I would honestly prefer if you paid out the ISK to invidivdual members like you did with Stunt :)Cairn Pithumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-51299688868317165252015-09-14T23:22:35.928+02:002015-09-14T23:22:35.928+02:00Goons are trying way too hard to troll here. It co...Goons are trying way too hard to troll here. It comes across as desperate. Which makes sense. They're loosing to a guerrilla force 1/8 their size. Any opportunity to troll and they jump all over it.<br /><br />As a card carrying member of MoA I can testify that their pilots do get a very robust SRP, and we do have a lot of fun. (In my opinion, killing goons, the ultimate bad-guys in EVE, is the most fun anyone can ever have in this game.)<br /><br />One word about Gen Eve: you don't get to be the leader of one of the best pvp alliances for 8 years by accident. Nor by raw charisma alone. MoA is the seal team six of Eve and Gen Eve is our general.<br /><br />So, keep trolling goons, we'll keep hunting you to extinction. :P<br /><br />Xan Auditorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166461766274810705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-24293491582104675302015-09-14T22:22:07.417+02:002015-09-14T22:22:07.417+02:00Gevlon, what you forget is that to most people who...Gevlon, what you forget is that to most people who play EVE - "fun" means that sometimes you lose ships in hilariously stupid ways.<br /><br />You're so caught up in numbers, charts, graphs and data you've forgotten something - EVE is a silly video game. ISK is just make believe worthless internet space money that has no real value. Calling everyone who actually understands that "dumb" is a bit extreme and makes you look very disconnected from reality.Vanilla Moosesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-5441577720999487902015-09-14T21:14:03.123+02:002015-09-14T21:14:03.123+02:00SRP doesnt come close to what you pay them each mo...SRP doesnt come close to what you pay them each month, given their ridiculous restrictions.<br /><br />So, Gen Eve has plenty of spare ISK.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-41496469938924496822015-09-14T19:52:07.517+02:002015-09-14T19:52:07.517+02:00Gevlon it appears you are starting to lose it a bi...Gevlon it appears you are starting to lose it a bit. You seem a bit more tense than normal. <br /><br />Did you know that was Gen-EVEs alt that lost that titan? He's trying to play it off and put some spin by posting with it on forums etc. but that's Gen EVE, I tried to find the character bazaar sell but it was too long ago I'm guessing. <br /><br />Also, that titan was your isk, so in a circle of things you lost a titan Gevlon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-29786073069289068152015-09-14T19:47:42.218+02:002015-09-14T19:47:42.218+02:00I do what I enjoy and I don't enjoy playing wi...I do what I enjoy and I don't enjoy playing with dumb people.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-33004634034560376112015-09-14T18:00:46.140+02:002015-09-14T18:00:46.140+02:00If I take a dread out, even knowing it may die, am...If I take a dread out, even knowing it may die, am I an idiot? A dread to me is the equivalent cost of a cruiser to most people, so if I would be an idiot for taking a dread out, they are idiots for taking cruisers out.<br /><br />You do what you enjoy, and some people enjoy taking a dread out to play.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-68421237092757487282015-09-14T16:21:22.813+02:002015-09-14T16:21:22.813+02:00You could dedicate an entire blog page on the kb h...You could dedicate an entire blog page on the kb history of that dread pilot lol. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-28926710457806363712015-09-14T15:53:41.936+02:002015-09-14T15:53:41.936+02:00You are an idiot or you are not. If you take out s...You are an idiot or you are not. If you take out such dread, you are likely do similar stupid other times.<br /><br />I think the pilots would notice if they wouldn't get SRP and make some noise. If Gen Eve takes all the money and somehow makes his pilots fly without SRP, the more power to him!Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-19602909637229807432015-09-14T14:47:31.761+02:002015-09-14T14:47:31.761+02:00gevlon can i ask do you see the payouts buy moa sr...gevlon can i ask do you see the payouts buy moa srp team to see if the money gets payout to the members for the loses or is it just blind faith in them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-85818590941536716952015-09-14T14:29:22.017+02:002015-09-14T14:29:22.017+02:00If you were to look at the stats of the dread pilo...If you were to look at the stats of the dread pilot, do you think he's generally considered as "an idiot"? Do you think he would be a hindrance to any "no idiocy allowed" fleets? Or does him taking his _personal dread_ out to have some _solo_ fun _on his own time_ before his insurance ran out make him an idiot for all eternity who must be purged from the imperium?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-53192531520734978422015-09-14T13:48:41.828+02:002015-09-14T13:48:41.828+02:00"No idiocy allowed" is actually needed t..."No idiocy allowed" is actually needed to have a fun fleet. Welping because of a moron is not fun. I don't care how it "sounds like", I care what the numbers say and they say for every ISK lost to the Imperium, MoA kills 3. And this idiot titan makes no difference, because it was lost not to the Imperium.<br /><br />There is no double standard. If you kick the idiot, you are idiot free. Sure, it's still bad PR, but problem solved. Goons aren't bad for losing trillions. Goons are bad for losing trillions and not making anything about it.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-9319031217419541772015-09-14T13:40:39.014+02:002015-09-14T13:40:39.014+02:00Sounds like this "dumb goon" is enticing...Sounds like this "dumb goon" is enticing tons of other people to come to us and create content for us, instead of us having to go to Providence to burn their shit down for some content. I dunno, sounds like win-win for us.<br /><br />Still smells like a doublestandard to me, though. "Well if this group loses a privately owned supercapital, they're privately dumb but the loss should certainly not count, but if this group loses a privately owned normal capital, it's the entire group's fault and should count in the overview of losses."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-76386718881949285272015-09-14T13:32:31.985+02:002015-09-14T13:32:31.985+02:00So MOA are a no fun allowed organisation that acti...So MOA are a no fun allowed organisation that actively want to reduce content in their area and care more about their kb than the people flying under their banner? To be frank, it sounds like the GSF is winning this war given they are having fun with capitals while MOA are restricted to only flying mostly frigates.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-6622405638127146432015-09-14T13:14:51.142+02:002015-09-14T13:14:51.142+02:00@First Anon: Wouldn't it be wonderful if peopl...@First Anon: Wouldn't it be wonderful if people would get easily available data before posting? MoA lost 115B to the Imperium and another 64B to third parties. Most of them are SRP-able PvP losses.<br />http://greedygoblin.blogspot.hu/2015/09/august-mordus-angels-report.html<br /><br />@Second Anon: idiots exists everywhere. The difference is that the Goon idiots can stay Goons and even celebrated under "we are bad at EVE", while MoA kicks these fails. Dumb losses of privately owned ships are bad because they attract hunters to camp the alliance. However if you kick the bads, they can't keep attracting hunters, nor they can influence others to follow them into stupidity.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-30370652035237652022015-09-14T12:53:41.719+02:002015-09-14T12:53:41.719+02:00You say that yet when privately bought capitals di...You say that yet when privately bought capitals die for goons it's considered a loss to the alliance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-1802472049241237502015-09-14T12:14:34.433+02:002015-09-14T12:14:34.433+02:00The faction loot they got from the incursion fleet...The faction loot they got from the incursion fleet alone pays for more than a month's SRP.<br />It is an undeniable fact that MoA has vastly more income than what they spend on their SRP program. Makes you wonder what they do with that extra money, or why you keep sending them ISK.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-24821615646935485632015-09-14T11:58:36.235+02:002015-09-14T11:58:36.235+02:00You're an idiot. My donations go to the SRP of...You're an idiot. My donations go to the SRP of the fleet engagements listed above. The titan was bought by an idiot like yourself from his own (likely wallet warriored) ISK. It's indeed a shame that such idiot could get into MoA and doesn't reflect well for the leadership, but no alliance ISK was lost.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-37528981711880721142015-09-14T11:49:26.753+02:002015-09-14T11:49:26.753+02:00How does it feel knowing it was most likely your d...How does it feel knowing it was most likely your donations to moa that paid for the titan that lasted a while 3 hours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-24150008196125083932015-09-14T11:37:30.001+02:002015-09-14T11:37:30.001+02:00??? It wasn't mine and I explicitly advised ag...??? It wasn't mine and I explicitly advised against its existence a year before.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-34940482716512647892015-09-14T10:36:00.131+02:002015-09-14T10:36:00.131+02:00Didn't want that Titan anyway, right Gevlon?
...Didn't want that Titan anyway, right Gevlon?<br /><br />:)Vanilla Moosesnoreply@blogger.com