tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post2318146368982928450..comments2024-02-27T14:44:07.868+01:00Comments on Greedy goblin: It's too early to celebrate!Gevlonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-64022190665717010802015-12-08T06:37:37.468+01:002015-12-08T06:37:37.468+01:00What about acquiring persons like Scooter McCabe t...What about acquiring persons like Scooter McCabe to help you bring down the Kickstarter Failed Coalition. They are scammers and thieves, if you bankroll them as agents with a big payday at the end why wouldn't they go for the bigger better deal?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-38633105157741717712015-12-07T15:38:51.006+01:002015-12-07T15:38:51.006+01:00Still, I disagree : the book is out of the game. P...Still, I disagree : the book is out of the game. Pilots don't care about it.<br />BUT, pilots are still convinced that "they are winning EvE" and they are good at the game because of propaganda.<br /><br />About convenience :<br />- good truesec - true, but there are better way of doing ISK, propaganda just tell them there is no better one ;<br />- very low chance of disbanding over drama - true in GSF, not so evident in allied alliances ;<br />- very low chance of being evicted - true ;<br />- regularly created content to consume - except most of these fleet are boring ;<br />- low obligatory performance demand - again, true in GSF, false for the other alliances.<br /><br />Take this post from THC (https://www.themittani.com/news/cloud-ring-war-spreads-lowsec) : "With no defenders other than the automated timer system and a few Griffin pilots, Cloud Ring soon fell to the Imperium[.]"<br />Line members (and probably a good part of new Eden) will think that they conquerred Cloud Ring with ease and got a bit of contents by the way. They will happily join next events.<br />I talked with some of them: they believe it.<br /><br />Actually, SMA just grinded sov during 2 weeks, sometimes loosing 4 hours for an IHub while there were 300 people in fleet. Check reddit, they didn't find it fun at all.<br />Actually, they did not even succeed and required the help of GSF, FCON and a GM mistake to take last station.<br /><br />... but stil, goons are proud of it because propaganda tells them it is.<br />Break this and they'll go away.<br /><br />(yeah, I always talk about this, but I only talk about what I saw by myself)Ryanisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-57595901701420929952015-12-07T15:14:27.672+01:002015-12-07T15:14:27.672+01:00@Ryanis: absolutely not. The propaganda is already...@Ryanis: absolutely not. The propaganda is already totally broken, proven by the fact that out of 40K Imperium members only 758 backed the propaganda book.<br /><br />The backbone of the Imperium is CONVENIENCE. If you want to live in Nullsec, the politics be damned, the Imperium is your best call:<br />- good truesec<br />- very low chance of disbanding over drama<br />- very low chance of being evicted<br />- regularly created content to consume (Ganking fleets, ADM fleets, stratop fleets, SiG roams)<br />- low obligatory performance demandGevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-53775905634702066842015-12-07T14:43:13.860+01:002015-12-07T14:43:13.860+01:00"The only difference he made is that The Mitt..."The only difference he made is that The Mittani looked a clown by sending his minions to "fight that coalition"".<br />I disagree: The Imperium only works because of propaganda ; if you break this propaganda, pilots will quit.Ryanisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-49965616088313616762015-12-07T11:03:19.946+01:002015-12-07T11:03:19.946+01:00I think the "serious authors will now avoid u...I think the "serious authors will now avoid us" issue is over-blown.<br /><br />First Eve fan fic is actually really good. If you read or listen to the Eve Chronicles or any of the various bloggers like Drarckarn or Mike who write fiction the standard is high.<br /><br />Next, from the sample we saw, the professional wasn't amazing. In particular the emphasis he put on pod mechanics didn't really fit with a description of Elo organising a battle for reasons Eve players instinctively know but perhaps find hard to say why.<br /><br />Next fan fic doesn't sell because of the author. I own all sorts of tie-in novels: Star Wars novels, Star Trek novels D&D novels, Magic TG novels. The one thing they all have in common is that I was already a Star Wars/D&D/MtG fan first. I certainly didn't buy any because of the author (although I remember being delighted to notice that a Star Wars novel I was buying was written by Barbara Hambly).<br /><br />Finally I wouldn't be so quick to write Jeff Edwards off. He's a naval veteran and those guys play rough. He came in, he got hazed. Kind of like a new sailor on a ship. If people think he will slope away feeling defeated I think they may be misjudging him. I think it's very possible he may become an Eve player and content creator because he got hazed.Stabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08716211705647213383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-53149234149972081732015-12-07T10:05:35.839+01:002015-12-07T10:05:35.839+01:00Jeff Edwards made a serious mistake not doing back...Jeff Edwards made a serious mistake not doing background check on Alexander Gianturco before signing a treaty. If you partner with an obnoxious man (the Fanfest speech wasn't in pixels), you shouldn't be surprised for hate.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-66015556493602561642015-12-07T09:54:01.953+01:002015-12-07T09:54:01.953+01:00burned.. Jeff Edwards and... his writer buddies. T...burned.. Jeff Edwards and... his writer buddies. Those people came in good faith, expecting a supportive and welcoming community and got hate instead."<br /><br />People who cant separate pixels from real life and have a hatred of other players so deep they will attack anything remotely associated with them are the true cancer of EVE. The fundraiser was poorly run but the wave of hatred from people is a far worse thing to have seen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-44005050101486342282015-12-07T07:28:02.864+01:002015-12-07T07:28:02.864+01:00Agree.
I think, the average goon is there for conv...Agree.<br />I think, the average goon is there for convenience, not because he feels like one. This is clearly to see in the support of this kickstarter...<br />So, many of them have to be disturbed in their daily "work" over and over again, until they are no longer comfortable.<br />That's why I worked on my trading income and started supporting your project by donating to MoA.Amarr-Zonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1461700565722278823.post-81924972463398970152015-12-07T06:53:58.064+01:002015-12-07T06:53:58.064+01:00"burned.. Jeff Edwards and... his writer budd..."burned.. Jeff Edwards and... his writer buddies. Those people came in good faith, expecting a supportive and welcoming community and got hate instead."<br /><br />Flooding people with hate when they interact with our community is bad for us all. The old books and amazing lore helped bring me into this game. I would love more books based in the lore of Eve. I'm not as interested in "plater stories" becoming a book. I fear the vitriol directed toward this author will make future authors hesitant. When outsiders or new players interact with our community and recieve hate, it is definetly not a time to celebrate.Andy knows everything.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08677798370553751850noreply@blogger.com